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Old 11-13-2017, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Don't have to be a known port to be a good port. Could be a bad port....but it's pretty straight forward on those things. Have to be a real idiot to eff one up.

No doubt, I've seen some God awful home ports though...I'm sure you have too.
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Would been aftermarket boost to keep up
To a stock 6 Gen prob
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its a long winter. look for vids and beatoff. the canadian tradition lol.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Would been aftermarket boost to keep up
To a stock 6 Gen prob
nah fam
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Originally Posted by snake95
Cyber needs engine swap #2.
Madz because a stock 6G would gap you? I would be too in my max effort h/c/i/etc 30poo



Buddy of mine in a small cam only LS1 pulled a fbo ported blower race fuel Cobro. Each race got worse because of that Heaton.
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3 engine swaps will get you past bolt on br0 maybe? 4? Somewhere in there.
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I've pulled a couple cars on a H/C/I LS1 while on 91 pump. Each race got closer because of the heaton.
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Hell just because it's a h/c car it doesn't mean it's fast. Most should not even bother with h/c **** till they learn something about cars.
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Terminators always were pretty slow. I think ford guys built the false reputation of them being fast because they had nothing else to hang their hat on
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Terminators always were pretty slow. I think ford guys built the false reputation of them being fast because they had nothing else to hang their hat on
No doubt. I mean, come on, a supercharged 4v v8 that struggles to run 12s. EL OH EL.

And its pretty sad when fail wheel drive v6s can beat them, with basic bolt ons. Ive proved this on multiple occasions. Including my story that made the front page of ls1tech.
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To be fair, the story of my old fail wheel drive V6 gap dancing on a lid/exhaust LS1 was also included in your enlightening "front page" espose.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Terminators always were pretty slow. I think ford guys built the false reputation of them being fast because they had nothing else to hang their hat on
I actually agree with you to some extent, underwhelming for what they are.
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I disagree. While it may have run high 12s it was a huge improvement over the prior ones. The car like the bros had a lot of lies associated with it. I think the 07 Gt500 was the huge disappointment. I remember seeing them at Cecil struggle to hit 12s eeeck.
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07-09 gt500's lol lawdy lawd those things were brutal
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
Madz because a stock 6G would gap you? I would be too in my max effort h/c/i/etc 30poo



Buddy of mine in a small cam only LS1 pulled a fbo ported blower race fuel Cobro. Each race got worse because of that Heaton.
Yet your Drivetrain swapped HCI TURBO race car is going slower than a basic blower swapped pump gas cobra?
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Don't have to be a known port to be a good port. Could be a bad port....but it's pretty straight forward on those things. Have to be a real idiot to eff one up.
So do you know who ported it? Because I made 459rwhp with a 2.76 pulley, intake, and catback. Those numbers you posted up are pretty weak for a ported blower car, but as typical a shitty home port gains you no power.

So here is my 3700lb Cobra 3910 with me in it. Going 120.2mph I also have a 121 time slip from the same day, gotta find it.
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It would have been hard to make my old ls1 run as slow as 12's even with the bad lifter
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Originally Posted by 2003Cobro
Yet your Drivetrain swapped HCI TURBO race car is going slower than a basic blower swapped pump gas cobra?
There's a vid of him somewhere draggin day tho.

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So do you know who ported it? Because I made 459rwhp with a 2.76 pulley, intake, and catback. Those numbers you posted up are pretty weak for a ported blower car, but as typical a shitty home port gains you no power.

So here is my 3700lb Cobra 3910 with me in it. Going 120.2mph I also have a 121 time slip from the same day, gotta find it.
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Well the reality is the notch has done well then. It made 458/473 on a 2.93 no port initially. So that's about 3 less psi than a 2.73 like you had.

Now it makes 468/471 with a safer tune. 11.8 vs 12:1. That's with the 2.93/2lb lower so still less boost than a 2.73 and a ported blower. But like i said earlier peak numbers don't alway tell the tale. It makes 30 more tq at 6k rpm and feels like it revs freer than it did......that's YUGE!

So w/o seeing the whole graph it's hard to say sometimes which is better.

You're times were decent. Likely even slightly above average. I have said i think the notch has more in it and only blame myself for it not performing a little better. Essentially tho the car is performing spot on vs your times. If it woulda went a 11.3 or 11.2 then it woulda actually done very well. More seat time and it would have to.

Here's the port job


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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
There's a vid of him somewhere draggin day tho.




Well the reality is the notch has done well then. It made 458/473 on a 2.93 no port initially. So that's about 3 less psi than a 2.73 like you had.

Now it makes 468/471 with a safer tune. 11.8 vs 12:1. That's with the 2.93/2lb lower so still less boost than a 2.73 and a ported blower. But like i said earlier peak numbers don't alway tell the tale. It makes 30 more tq at 6k rpm and feels like it revs freer than it did......that's YUGE!

So w/o seeing the whole graph it's hard to say sometimes which is better.

You're times were decent. Likely even slightly above average. I have said i think the notch has more in it and only blame myself for it not performing a little better. Essentially tho the car is performing spot on vs your times. If it woulda went a 11.3 or 11.2 then it woulda actually done very well. More seat time and it would have to.

Here's the port job


You are right I did lose to Cyber once on a botched run vs his best run ever at the time. Currently i got better times than his turbo car though.

I was launching at the time on 17" Nitto Drag radials on stock wheels. If I had my bigs and littles like i do now i have no doubt id have been going 11.80s on a stock blower bolt ons, like plenty of people on SVTP have gone with pulleys only. A guy just this week went 11.0@127 on a ported blower 93 octane car. So yes you have some room to make up.
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Again....pulley combo/fuel/other bolt ons are all factors. I didn't ice down....no killer chiller.....93 octane....no slicks....no headers.....gear?

Could it go 10s with dome combo of additional mods....sure. i make no bones about that.

A little seat time and it will do better. The problem is you guys are expecting it to be as fast or faster than the camaro and it's just not with both cars ran in a similar fashion.

I think was turning it a bit harder than it likes to. Ima back the shift light down a couple hundred rpms.

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