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Old 12-12-2017, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by islander033
And we all wonder why everything is getting so expensive...
expensive? what is expensive? expensive is the cost relative to income.

to say that product X is expensive depends on relative income. the push to drive down wages is what makes product X expensive.

Henry Ford understood he had to pay his employees enough to be able to buy his vehicles.

that simple rule is lost and broken by every company in existence in america.

high wages and high employment drive inflation. suppressing wages and artificial price increases make things "EXPENSIVE".
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My company pays me a very good wage with good benefits and is still one if not the most profitable utility in the US, record profits quarter after quarter and stock highest it’s ever been, but...union workers are selfish and lazy. Lol
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Union ruins companies. Thank You for Right to Work! I got out of that **** as soon as they tried extorting more dues from us with ZERO valid reason.
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Right to work should be illegal. Not only does it drive down wages, it's theft. People taking advantage of the union negotiated wages and benefits without paying for them.
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Originally Posted by assasinator
expensive? what is expensive? expensive is the cost relative to income.

to say that product X is expensive depends on relative income. the push to drive down wages is what makes product X expensive.

Henry Ford understood he had to pay his employees enough to be able to buy his vehicles.

that simple rule is lost and broken by every company in existence in america.

high wages and high employment drive inflation. suppressing wages and artificial price increases make things "EXPENSIVE".
Yes more expensive. The money comes from somewhere for the higher wages.

Y'all said yourself, you make $20/hr more than same non union dude.

You think the employers and manufactures just eat them costs? lol
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I just beat out 2 non union contractors on a $1.1 million job.
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And came in 1.1 million above your quote? lol
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No I was at 1.1. They were 50-100k more expensive.
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Originally Posted by islander033
And came in 1.1 million above your quote? lol
lol, So true! Most unions are Subsidized by Federal and Local Gov't's. So, being in a labor union these days. Basically makes you a bureaucrat. And unions served a great purpose 50+ years ago. But in todays day n age, with all the rules and regs, large, small and medium biz's need to adhere to. They are no longer needed. Just a way for the club of guys at the top to continue there gravy train. And then feed the left wing politicians and bureaucrats. Who will then return the favor. It's all a revolving door of $$$. Union = Govt! and vise versa. I can go into alot of detail about this, but don't have the time. Nor do I want to start a Political debate in a car forum.

Don't drink the Kool Aid peeps!
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Here is a Great example of how the NY Gov't was failing on a simple job. Then a private citizen cam in, hired a private company. Spent a fraction of the cost. Then got the job done! I think we know who this guy is by now.



Another great example of how everything Gov't touches it destroys is, the USPS, The mail! They have been plagued by financial problems for over a decade now. They keep pumping in tax payer dollars to keep afloat. Now, the same type of companies in the private sector actually make alot of $$$. They are UPS and Fed Ex. Booming corps, high share prices, and run like any other Fortune 500 company. So, ask yourself, why is the United States Post Office broke and in shambles, and there competition is doing Great??? What does this have to do with unions??? Figure it out!
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You are aware that there are private sector unions, right?

and I see islanders joke now. No we run a profitable company.
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
You are aware that there are private sector unions, right?

and I see islanders joke now. No we run a profitable company.
Yes, Very Aware..
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So I'm not sure how your ranting applies to private sector unions, and the profitable companies that employee them
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
So I'm not sure how your ranting applies to private sector unions, and the profitable companies that employee them
Did I say that it did?
What exactly is your point??
I think your missing your show on MSNBC right now lol.
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Originally Posted by 89BANDIT
Did I say that it did?
What exactly is your point??
I think your missing your show on MSNBC right now lol.
CNN* lol
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Originally Posted by 89BANDIT
Did I say that it did?
What exactly is your point??
I think your missing your show on MSNBC right now lol.
Yes, you jumped into a conversation about private sector unions ranting and raving about public sector unions, even while mentioning labor unions specifically, which are largely private sector.
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Lol 89bandit once again talking about **** he has no clue about...how expected.
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Originally Posted by BlkMach1
Lol 89bandit once again talking about **** he has no clue about...how expected.
Here is LuvsBlckCock again talking smack. I know more about how business and Gov't work than most other people in the country. It was my job for over 15 years. So,pipe down little boy! And to what he ^ keeps saying about how different private unions are. Are incorrect! They arent much different at all. They are the same. Still union workers, paying union dues. They just get a paycheck from a private corp, while doing work for said corp. And when laid off, still collect there union money! And still pay union dues. You obv have no clue exactly how they work do you? I thought u won a huge million dollar contract? Seems a bit fishy??? I have 5 different FINRA licenses. And i'm blue sky laws certified from the feds, and NYS.

It also appears that LuvsBlckCock is entirely too Ignorant to say anything intelligent, So he chimes in with that BS! What a ******* Loser! He obv took the short bus to school. When his parents actually weren't in an Opiate coma and sent him to School. lol

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Most labor unions don't pay their guys when they're laid off. They collect unemployment like every other laid off person. A million dollar job isn't even approaching what I would consider a big contract. I know plenty about how unions work, I'm a union member and a division manager for a union contractor. I deal with union all day, everyday.
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
Most labor unions don't pay their guys when they're laid off. They collect unemployment like every other laid off person. A million dollar job isn't even approaching what I would consider a big contract. I know plenty about how unions work, I'm a union member and a division manager for a union contractor. I deal with union all day, everyday.
Yes, The unemployment come from where? In NY they collect it from the Union, hence why the dues are Pd. The private company dosent. A union electrician, or steamfitter. Will work for 3-12 different companies over the course of a year. Sometimes for a few weeks, or a few months on a project. But when laid off, and no work. They collect from the union. After going to the union hall and file'ing for there unemployment.

union rules, regs and Laws do vary from state to state..


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