my fbo 2018 10r80 vs 2017 fbo manual ss
05-29-2018, 04:08 PM
#41
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he can still port his msd. They suck stock. He’s also on stock wheels. It’s also a manual car with horrid gearing trapping 119-120
oh and they make near identical power on the dyno as well... wrong on yet another count. Where’s that 30 hp difference? A8 in 6th gear puts down near the same as the m6. It’s been tested by jannetty racing. So that’s not it either
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05-29-2018, 04:12 PM
#42
i dont know about most of that nitty gritty stuff, but i do know a ported CJ manifold matches the stock headflow (nearly) of a 3rd gen coyote. so maybe its a wash. maybe both DI engines match each other. one has a bit more power. the other has a large torque advantage. one has ET, the other has MPH.
I have a feeling bolt on and converter I will be behind though. The lt1 doesn't seem to respond that well to them on the stock cam. Very small gain. About a tenth that ive seen. Maybe that will change as more run them idk.
05-29-2018, 06:00 PM
#47
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well i guess FURD will just use the Bullitt spec engine with the a10. 25 extra hp (over the LT1) must count for something even in your twisted mind.
05-29-2018, 06:16 PM
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ford hasnt competed since 1970. even in the good old days....
the mustang had a joke 390 as a GT. ford lied about power rating it at 320hp gross. the camaro had a GENIUNE 375hp 396.
ford has always had a limited edition answer to a chevy power advantage. chevy has always had a torque advantage in every day cars.
so....furd has a 5.2 voodoo. big deal. its a paper monster. only on paper. always a disappointment. ford never does the right thing. the V8 is going to way of the dinosaur at ford.
their best attempt was a hurricane 6.2 liter 2 valve. horrible gas mileage and just average power. no 4 valves. no high revving. no aftermarket. the ******* engine sucks. they are stuck on 5 liters, throwing away 20-25hp and 22 lb-ft by NOT building a 5.2 DI coyote.
05-29-2018, 06:22 PM
#49
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a 5.2 DI will make 499hp and 442 lb-ft. but alas FURD is too dumb. anyone who wants to compeet with chevy has to mod the **** out of their furd. the stinkin motor doesnt even need a lot of cubes, just some. it will never happen. they will change to a eco boost v6 forever soon enough.
05-29-2018, 07:05 PM
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the camaro is still crushing the 5br0 m6 to m6 so it seems.
besides. I doubt the bullit will get a 25 hp bump.
05-29-2018, 07:25 PM
#51
once the camaro gets the a10 it's gonna take the bullit spec to keep up. Gonna have trans brake from the factory. Now if they do what furd did and have a drag mode to eliminate tm on shifts it will be the first base pony car to hit 11.5s stock.
the camaro is still crushing the 5br0 m6 to m6 so it seems.
besides. I doubt the bullit will get a 25 hp bump.
the camaro is still crushing the 5br0 m6 to m6 so it seems.
besides. I doubt the bullit will get a 25 hp bump.
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08-10-2018, 09:24 PM
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the cars are about dead even right now stock vs stock
the a10 May add a touch the stock times for the SS. Probably most with trap speed. 5th gear really kills them as is. I’ve seen enough races to know the cars are about as close as it gets currently. The ss usually pulls to 100-120 then the a10 gt starts pulling. The manual gt looks unimpressive.
With bolt ons it’s the same story. Although I think with a converter he 18 gt May show an edge. Partially because for some reason tuners can’t get the converter to lock until top of 3rd bottom of 4th. So converter 6gens only gain about a tenth in et but lose some mph.
the cars are about dead even right now stock vs stock
the a10 May add a touch the stock times for the SS. Probably most with trap speed. 5th gear really kills them as is. I’ve seen enough races to know the cars are about as close as it gets currently. The ss usually pulls to 100-120 then the a10 gt starts pulling. The manual gt looks unimpressive.
With bolt ons it’s the same story. Although I think with a converter he 18 gt May show an edge. Partially because for some reason tuners can’t get the converter to lock until top of 3rd bottom of 4th. So converter 6gens only gain about a tenth in et but lose some mph.
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08-10-2018, 09:56 PM
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the cars are about dead even right now stock vs stock
the a10 May add a touch the stock times for the SS. Probably most with trap speed. 5th gear really kills them as is. I’ve seen enough races to know the cars are about as close as it gets currently. The ss usually pulls to 100-120 then the a10 gt starts pulling. The manual gt looks unimpressive.
With bolt ons it’s the same story. Although I think with a converter he 18 gt May show an edge. Partially because for some reason tuners can’t get the converter to lock until top of 3rd bottom of 4th. So converter 6gens only gain about a tenth in et but lose some mph.
08-10-2018, 10:26 PM
#59
you 60 harder on the 26 and I think it helps pull 5th better from the improved gearing. All the bolt on cars on a 26 trap much better on average. Im a consistent 125-126 currently
08-11-2018, 11:18 AM
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the cars are about dead even right now stock vs stock
the a10 May add a touch the stock times for the SS. Probably most with trap speed. 5th gear really kills them as is. I’ve seen enough races to know the cars are about as close as it gets currently. The ss usually pulls to 100-120 then the a10 gt starts pulling. The manual gt looks unimpressive.
With bolt ons it’s the same story. Although I think with a converter he 18 gt May show an edge. Partially because for some reason tuners can’t get the converter to lock until top of 3rd bottom of 4th. So converter 6gens only gain about a tenth in et but lose some mph.
i dont think converter going to help a lot on a8 or a10 cars. People are cutting 1.5 in a10 with bolt ons. Thats huge over 6r80 cars on stock converter.