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Old 07-05-2018, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Well the zl1 is faster than anything furd ever made for us.....and still it's not the fastest gm vehicle.

besides the a10 effectively killed the m6 5br0. You hear nothing about it.
I gathered some actual data for you. And the A10 is going to eventually make all M6's obsolete, as far as strait line racing is concerned. Look at the performance differences in the A8 and M6 Hellcats for example.

2018 ZL1 1LE:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.5 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.9 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.7 sec @ 124 mph
Top speed ( mfr's claim): 190 mph

2013 GT500:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.5 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.7 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.6 sec @ 125.7 mph
Top speed ( mfr's claim): 200 mph
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Originally Posted by Britt2020
I gathered some actual data for you. And the A10 is going to eventually make all M6's obsolete, as far as strait line racing is concerned. Look at the performance differences in the A8 and M6 Hellcats for example.

2018 ZL1 1LE:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.5 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.9 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.7 sec @ 124 mph
Top speed ( mfr's claim): 190 mph

2013 GT500:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.5 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.7 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.6 sec @ 125.7 mph
Top speed ( mfr's claim): 200 mph
a10 ZL1 has been 10s @ almost 130 mph bone stock to the tire. GT500 has not. Mag times tested on different days mean nothing really
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Yea...in the hands of the people like the furd guys used to say it's not really much of s contest.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
a10 ZL1 has been 10s @ almost 130 mph bone stock to the tire. GT500 has not. Mag times tested on different days mean nothing really
The 13/14 has been 11.2 at almost 130 mph and that’s as you know through an M6 with 3:32 gears. I mean we can talk hero times all day long. Im giving actual data to disprove the statement made about Ford not offering anything to compete with the ZL1 and the fact that we can compare a 2013 Shelby with the latest and greatest 2018 Camaro is laughable.
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You didn't disprove anything. ....but now you're whining on its gearing. How bout looking at the smaller blower.....using less boost to be faster. Go order you a new gt500.....oh wait

And no....the 2013 gt500 is really not that comparable. It's really much closer in overall performance to 5gen zl1. And still not even very competitive to the fastest gm vehicle.

here's a test of the zl1 goin 11.5

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...l1-test-review

what did you disprove again?
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
a10 ZL1 has been 10s @ almost 130 mph bone stock to the tire. GT500 has not. Mag times tested on different days mean nothing really
So the ones that go mid elevens, with a drag tire, & trap around 123-124 must be manufacturers defects or something. I guess different cars, at different tracks, really means nothing also.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You didn't disprove anything. ....but now you're whining on its gearing. How bout looking at the smaller blower.....using less boost to be faster. Go order you a new gt500.....oh wait

And no....the 2013 gt500 is really not that comparable. It's really much closer in overall performance to 5gen zl1. And still not even very competitive to the fastest gm vehicle.

here's a test of the zl1 goin 11.5

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...l1-test-review

what did you disprove again?
I’m not complaining about gearing, I was mearly providing more data. I can tell that facts don’t mean much to you, so I’m not going to waste my time trying to be accurate.
You saying the 5gen ZL1 is comprable to the Shelby speaks volumes. You’re a fan boy....enjoy buying from one manufacturer for the rest of your life and I’ll continue to buy from whoever is faster.
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I posted the facts. With a link to boot. Fact is a 5gen is much more comparable in overall performance to a 13 gt500. A 6gen zl1 wipes the floor with it in overall performance.

right now if your you're buying from whoever is faster you haven't bought a furd since when? If you want to include vette in that you've likely never bought a furd.

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Originally Posted by Britt2020


The 13/14 has been 11.2 at almost 130 mph and that’s as you know through an M6 with 3:32 gears. I mean we can talk hero times all day long. Im giving actual data to disprove the statement made about Ford not offering anything to compete with the ZL1 and the fact that we can compare a 2013 Shelby with the latest and greatest 2018 Camaro is laughable.
he said it was faster than the gt500. it is. the end

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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
he said it was faster than the gt500. it is. the end
Its literally 1.7 MPH slower....that’s not an opinion that is documented fact.
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Originally Posted by Britt2020


Its literally 1.7 MPH slower....that’s not an opinion that is documented fact.
the only fact is that the zl1 has been faster stock. theres nothing to argue here

it has trapped 129 stock and been 10.9.
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
So the ones that go mid elevens, with a drag tire, & trap around 123-124 must be manufacturers defects or something. I guess different cars, at different tracks, really means nothing also.
other than conditions some zl1 cars put out less boost than others. I cant recall the reason behind it but guys on camaro6 been talking about it

they cant really utilize a dr that well when totally stock. too much torque management. may even slow them down if they bog too much
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ZL1 kills the trinity. Everywhere.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
ZL1 kills the trinity. Everywhere.
Hennessey has a stock bottom end lt4 making over 1500 hp
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Ok the ZL1 is faster stock. Although it seems not when modded. Fastest LT motor car is 7's fastest mod motor 6's. More mph too.
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Is your dumbass really bringing up 6 and 7 sec cars here?

here's what your stupid *** should do since you have so much faith in them. Sell that rag pile you have. Go buy you a mod motor car and run 6s. That easy right.
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Why not dork. Which one is faster?

Faith? Lol. Why do that? I can just buy another SS, spend 17 years working on it, & say it cut a 1.2x sixty foot.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
other than conditions some zl1 cars put out less boost than others. I cant recall the reason behind it but guys on camaro6 been talking about it

they cant really utilize a dr that well when totally stock. too much torque management. may even slow them down if they bog too much
You’re literally making excuses for underperforming vehicles based on second and third hand unverifiable information. Nothing that I ever read of yours in the future will ever hold any merit...I’m sad for you and I’m sad for the the people around you.

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I posted the facts. With a link to boot. Fact is a 5gen is much more comparable in overall performance to a 13 gt500. A 6gen zl1 wipes the floor with it in overall performance.

right now if your you're buying from whoever is faster you haven't bought a furd since when? If you want to include vette in that you've likely never bought a furd.
I’m not including the Vette because that’s a complete different topic. And and I’m not knocking GM or Mopar, because there’s a very good chance I’ll own a ZL1 or Hellcat, but to imply that Ford has been playing second fiddle to Chevrolet over the last 5 years is false and nothing more than blind loyalty to GM. Just because your dad drove one doesn’t mean it’s the best all the time. But you have fun beating on Honda’s in your 4th gen and being GMs white knight.
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Hell you could say that and still never run 10s like me.

from my experience a mod motor including a 5br0 won't touch a ls. Mod motor has been no where near as fast na.....nor has it made as much power na. Anything can make power under boost.....nothing new about that.
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Originally Posted by Britt2020


You’re literally making excuses for underperforming vehicles based on second and third hand unverifiable information. Nothing that I ever read of yours in the future will ever hold any merit...I’m sad for you and I’m sad for the the people around you.



I’m not including the Vette because that’s a complete different topic. And and I’m not knocking GM or Mopar, because there’s a very good chance I’ll own a ZL1 or Hellcat, but to imply that Ford has been playing second fiddle to Chevrolet over the last 5 years is false and nothing more than blind loyalty to GM. Just because your dad drove one doesn’t mean it’s the best all the time. But you have fun beating on Honda’s in your 4th gen and being GMs white knight.
well....what does your gt500 run then? Mods? Break it down for us.

Ford has been well behind several vehicles from GM for a very long time. The 5.0 has done pretty well.....as long as you stay in the bolt oh arena. But even then when compared to the lt they need more mods. The a10 is a good car. But really it only caught up. Once the a10 is in the standard ss it will be dragging it again. But even then overall performance still leans towards the ss.

of course you don't want to talk about vettes. Furd really has nothing to compete with them.

I have no worries about hondas in my 4gen nor to many of furd product.


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