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Old Jul 31, 2025 | 08:24 AM
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just cause you watched videos doesn’t mean you built them pal
Spec'd and built from the ground up, lil' guy.
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Old Jul 31, 2025 | 09:06 AM
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Spec'd and built from the ground up, lil' guy.
doubt it Pajeet you don’t even have your car!
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Old Jul 31, 2025 | 11:21 AM
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doubt it Pajeet you don’t even have your car!
Put some money on it?
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Old Jul 31, 2025 | 09:12 PM
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Ballpien Hammer and HiHO on meltdown


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Old Aug 1, 2025 | 12:38 PM
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They right by my house. I've talked to those guys.

Originally Posted by JC316
302 and 305 are damned near identical engines, stock or modified. Fox won because Ford actually gave a **** about the performance, while GM was busy protecting the Corvette.
Actually gm did. The camaros evolved nicely during that time......handled great and 305s out powered the 30poo.

Only thing furd did was build a cheap car. It was light and that's about all that could be said for it.

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The engines I've built have made a lot more power than yours have, lil' buddy.
No you haven't

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Put some money on it?
Sure....na of course

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Ballpien Hammer and HiHO on meltdown

1le's went 13.9 to
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Old Aug 1, 2025 | 12:58 PM
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They right by my house. I've talked to those guys.

Actually gm did. The camaros evolved nicely during that time......handled great and 305s out powered the 30poo.

Only thing furd did was build a cheap car. It was light and that's about all that could be said for it.

1le's went 13.9 to
That's cool, I would have loved to have that G92. Overwhelming majority of people don't give a crap about road course performance, they care about straight line performance. No, if GM gave a **** about performance, they would have thrown the ZF6 and some 3.42 gears into the L98 IROC. Instead they used 2.77 gears and the 700R4, hiding 3.23's behind an overpriced option package. The one time they DID run 3.23's behind the R4, it was .2 behind the C4 and half the price.
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Originally Posted by JC316
That's cool, I would have loved to have that G92. Overwhelming majority of people don't give a crap about road course performance, they care about straight line performance. No, if GM gave a **** about performance, they would have thrown the ZF6 and some 3.42 gears into the L98 IROC. Instead they used 2.77 gears and the 700R4, hiding 3.23's behind an overpriced option package. The one time they DID run 3.23's behind the R4, it was .2 behind the C4 and half the price.
They were close to releasing in 1992 A Z28 anniversary car. White with bkack stripes. 6 speed with experimental runners. Rated at 275HP.

1LE was a performance model but hidden

1993 Cobra went 13.7s oops
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Old Aug 1, 2025 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Only thing furd did was build a cheap car. It was light and that's about all that could be said for it.
It can also be said to be superior to the 3rd and 4th Gen F-body.

No you haven't
Sure....na of course
Never forget, I'm not a bluffing poser like you, little choad.












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Originally Posted by JC316
That's cool, I would have loved to have that G92. Overwhelming majority of people don't give a crap about road course performance, they care about straight line performance. No, if GM gave a **** about performance, they would have thrown the ZF6 and some 3.42 gears into the L98 IROC. Instead they used 2.77 gears and the 700R4, hiding 3.23's behind an overpriced option package. The one time they DID run 3.23's behind the R4, it was .2 behind the C4 and half the price.
They have cafe and emmision standards to meet. It's not a free for all from the factory.....fact is the fcar had more powerful engines than the fox. It just wasn't a sardine can like the fox.

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It can also be said to be superior to the 3rd and 4th Gen F-body.



Never forget, I'm not a bluffing poser like you, little choad.











once again that turbo junk don't count. No one gives a **** about that ****. The fact that you even bring it up vs a na engine is ******* sad on your part.

So .....how much money you sending me? I took your bet bitch.

All that ******* junk setting there would get walked by a bolt on ls6 when ran na🤣🤣🤣

You about a dumb bitch
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
They were close to releasing in 1992 A Z28 anniversary car. White with bkack stripes. 6 speed with experimental runners. Rated at 275HP.

1LE was a performance model but hidden

1993 Cobra went 13.7s oops
93 cobro wasn't going 13.7

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...mparison-test/

But it did get smoked by the other cars built in 93.

Tell the crowd how your tpi car was faster than your fox......oooppppssy
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
once again that turbo junk don't count. No one gives a **** about that ****. The fact that you even bring it up vs a na engine is ******* sad on your part.
Turbo doesn’t count?
Nothing under 800 rwhp counts

So .....how much money you sending me? I took your bet bitch.
What bet do you think you won again? 🤡

All that ******* junk setting there would get walked by a bolt on ls6 when ran na🤣🤣🤣
You should have no problem with NA4VSVT then.
Why are you ducking?
Why are you stipping your way out of a race?

You about a dumb bitch
Define power
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
They have cafe and emmision standards to meet. It's not a free for all from the factory.....fact is the fcar had more powerful engines than the fox. It just wasn't a sardine can like the fox.
That's your excuse? Emissions? Even though they did 3.42's and a 6 speed in the L98 Vette...
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
93 cobro wasn't going 13.7

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...mparison-test/

But it did get smoked by the other cars built in 93.

Tell the crowd how your tpi car was faster than your fox......oooppppssy
I remember those cars when new. Many people went 13.7 with them. Did you see what Car and Driver ran with the 98 Z28 when it debuted? High 13s 104 and somehow the 98 Cobra was faster. We know all of that is false. First F bombs with LS were low 13s 107 easy with a M6. Auto 323 cars mid 13s 105ish.
Cobra had no shot against a 350 LT1 Fbody. More compression cubes and more gear. Those too were underated. They should have been rated at 300HP
Yes Formula was faster. Was a 350 car. What is scary is what it should come with from the factory.. aluminum heads like the Vette. Other scary thing was I raced a stock 1991 Z28 hardtop 350 and lost stock to stock. Those speed density cars were a tad faster. And I was heavier than him. I saw that car at Crapital go 14.0 98 MPH. You and I argued about the looks of those. Few weeks later I had SLP cold air,SLP stage 2 Prom ,air foil,took screen out of my MAF,AFPR and added 5 psi,over inflated my front tires, plastic 1992 Ttops,1LE aluminum DS and ported my Plenum. 13.5 101 MPH and got him good. Then he did the SLP stuff along with headers but car got totaled before rematch
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Old Aug 2, 2025 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by LSux
It can also be said to be superior to the 3rd and 4th Gen F-body.



Never forget, I'm not a bluffing poser like you, little choad.











nice internet pics fren!
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Wh

ats actually worse the 302 or 4.6
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Originally Posted by JC316
That's your excuse? Emissions? Even though they did 3.42's and a 6 speed in the L98 Vette...
That's the vette. It's more expensive so it got the 6speed vs a auto or 5speed.

Yea emissions and cafe standards limit alot of what a manufacturer can do. Especially when you involve costs and price point.

It's not a free for all.

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I remember those cars when new. Many people went 13.7 with them. Did you see what Car and Driver ran with the 98 Z28 when it debuted? High 13s 104 and somehow the 98 Cobra was faster. We know all of that is false. First F bombs with LS were low 13s 107 easy with a M6. Auto 323 cars mid 13s 105ish.
Cobra had no shot against a 350 LT1 Fbody. More compression cubes and more gear. Those too were underated. They should have been rated at 300HP
Yes Formula was faster. Was a 350 car. What is scary is what it should come with from the factory.. aluminum heads like the Vette. Other scary thing was I raced a stock 1991 Z28 hardtop 350 and lost stock to stock. Those speed density cars were a tad faster. And I was heavier than him. I saw that car at Crapital go 14.0 98 MPH. You and I argued about the looks of those. Few weeks later I had SLP cold air,SLP stage 2 Prom ,air foil,took screen out of my MAF,AFPR and added 5 psi,over inflated my front tires, plastic 1992 Ttops,1LE aluminum DS and ported my Plenum. 13.5 101 MPH and got him good. Then he did the SLP stuff along with headers but car got totaled before rematch
No one went 13.7 with a stock 30p00 fox. 13s at all is hard to believe for a stock production fox. Furds known to throw ringers out.

It was common for lt1s to run 13s stock.

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Wh

ats actually worse the 302 or 4.6
a friend went 16.1 with his stock 4.sux 2v. Grand am gts were faster than those turds
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
That's the vette. It's more expensive so it got the 6speed vs a auto or 5speed.

Yea emissions and cafe standards limit alot of what a manufacturer can do. Especially when you involve costs and price point.

It's not a free for all.



No one went 13.7 with a stock 30p00 fox. 13s at all is hard to believe for a stock production fox. Furds known to throw ringers out.

It was common for lt1s to run 13s stock.


a friend went 16.1 with his stock 4.sux 2v. Grand am gts were faster than those turds
lolz 302’s and 4.suck made the same power. I think a 305 truck made more power. SAD!
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A 305 truck would smoke 30poo and 4.sux trucks.
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Originally Posted by LSux

You should have no problem with NA4VSVT then.
Why are you ducking?
Why are you stipping your way out of a race?
Poor Doug probably called tiny T in here to help with his NA 4.6 problem.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Wh

ats actually worse the 302 or 4.6
4.6 GT was actually slower than the same car with a 5.0. OUCH. 98 version a little better and maybe a tad faster than a 95. Dark days. PI cars were an improvement but a little too late because LS F body

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That's the vette. It's more expensive so it got the 6speed vs a auto or 5speed.

Yea emissions and cafe standards limit alot of what a manufacturer can do. Especially when you involve costs and price point.

It's not a free for all.



No one went 13.7 with a stock 30p00 fox. 13s at all is hard to believe for a stock production fox. Furds known to throw ringers out.

It was common for lt1s to run 13s stock.


a friend went 16.1 with his stock 4.sux 2v. Grand am gts were faster than those turds
I just showed a mag going 13s with a speed density 87 car. Few mags got them to go that fast. Cobra had better intake bigger tb better heads roller rockers. Go in any Mustang Forum and search. A 93 Cobra going 13s was pretty common. 94 Cobra however was slower
LT1s new were faster. Even an auto. Bigger motor more gear more compression. No brainier. Ford didn't have a Corvette type car to get handi me downs. 98 it even got worse.

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lolz 302’s and 4.suck made the same power. I think a 305 truck made more power. SAD!
302 actually made more than 4.6 non pi. More torque and actually made same power up top too. Crazy. Except for the crack intake manifolds they were very reliable though
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