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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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if he knows how to launch it, i doubt he'll have problems taking you from a dig. From a roll I think the LT1 won't have too much trouble cleaning up.
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by enisguy
if he knows how to launch it, i doubt he'll have problems taking you from a dig. From a roll I think the LT1 won't have too much trouble cleaning up.
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by enisguy
if he knows how to launch it, i doubt he'll have problems taking you from a dig. From a roll I think the LT1 won't have too much trouble cleaning up.
dido, just race him and get back to us
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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ive never raced an Evo yet, but i did race an SRT-4 at the track one time (and i know track and street conditions are different), but ive heard that Evos and SRTs are supposed to be around the same (hp, e.t., trap speed), im not sure about that, but i do know that little 4-door took off like a rocket, i had him after the 60' mark, and Evo's are AWD, watch your *** on the lauch otherwise you'll be watching his
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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Good luck with the race, I give the edge to the Evo if he knows how to drive it. I haven't lost on street yet but like someone stated you have to commit to the launch. It is hard to beat if launched well, and rowing gears in that thing is like a hot knife through butter.

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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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IF the Evo guy knows how to drive

dig = you lose
roll = you win
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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I can't see why you're not running high 12s with that setup. Did you run with some et's or nittos or with just factory tires?

From a roll, no competion at all. Just as everyone has said, from a dig, it's going to be tough due to traction. With a set of nittos or ets, you would take him from a roll too assuming he's stock.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 99badta
Good luck with the race, I give the edge to the Evo if he knows how to drive it. I haven't lost on street yet but like someone stated you have to commit to the launch. It is hard to beat if launched well, and rowing gears in that thing is like a hot knife through butter.

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What happened to the TA? Nice evo too, I almost bought one. Bought a new truck instead, and got a couple of fbodies for the track, hehe. Still a good choice.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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I sold the TA, needed something a bit more practical although I don't know about snow anymore with all the power it has now, on wet roads it spins like crazy even with the AWD in first and second. Let us no when you race, and how it goes.

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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Have a clip of your Evo? I wanna hear the difference with the cams than without (neighbor has one without and is getting them soon)
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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There would be NO difference from a roll either! If he traps at 102(just guessing) and you at 102, there would be NO difference if you ran him from a roll.

Why do people suggest that the outcome would be different if you ran him from a roll? His trap speed indicates what his car is capable of at that point, now anything past 102 I wouldn't know.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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I think its gonna be pretty damned close. I think he will be able to take you if he gets a good launch, but I have heard it can be a little tricky to launch them without wheel hop. Good luck, I see it going either way...
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
There would be NO difference from a roll either! If he traps at 102(just guessing) and you at 102, there would be NO difference if you ran him from a roll.

Why do people suggest that the outcome would be different if you ran him from a roll? His trap speed indicates what his car is capable of at that point, now anything past 102 I wouldn't know.
Yes there would. You can run a 13.5 @ 102 and beat someone running 14.0 @ 102 at the track. In a street race, traps speed is null. Its who gets there first.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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What I am saying is that, people always want to run an awd car from a roll. My point is that, no matter what you do, the evo will still pull the same no matter if you did it from a roll r not!
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
What I am saying is that, people always want to run an awd car from a roll. My point is that, no matter what you do, the evo will still pull the same no matter if you did it from a roll r not!

I understand what your saying. But what I am saying though is if he races from a dig, traction is going to be an issue for the Camaro but much less for the Evo. From a roll the traction issue is much less.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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BTW it is possible for AWD cars to spin on the street... its just as slick for them as it is us... all it takes is too much rpm off the line. AWD doesn't automatically mean your getting pulled from the hole. I watched a AWD Talon TSI running at Cordova one year and the kid was running high 15s all night..horrible 60fts and weak mph.. after bullshitting with him a few minutes I suggested he try launching at 3500~3600rpm (he said he was taking off at less than 2k before)...bam 15.2 next time out. Point is not everyone knows how to properly launch and a lot of people will screw up. (I know everyone who post on the boards is john force...but lets just pretend other people out there with performance cars are not for just a sec. k?)
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Oh and for the MPH argument... when the 60fts are obviously far apart (for instance the evo pulling 1.7 60fts vs a camaro at 2.1 60ft... the evo can trap equally and still get its *** handed to it from a roll on since the camaro obviously spent less time accelerating to make it to the same mph. (if that makes sense).. traps speed comparisons only work well when other things match up. (like similar 60fts)
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wickedwarlock
I can't see why you're not running high 12s with that setup. Did you run with some et's or nittos or with just factory tires?

From a roll, no competion at all. Just as everyone has said, from a dig, it's going to be tough due to traction. With a set of nittos or ets, you would take him from a roll too assuming he's stock.
Yeah i was running on stock 18 inch goodyear f1 supercars with 2.2 60' times it was pretty bad.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
They do not trap under 100 mph. If they do, its becuase of driver era! **** if Road and Track can pull 102, I know there are more skillfull drivers other than them.
I agree, they pull low 13s all day long with a good driver. Don't anyone tell you any less. They are quick on the launch assuming he can drive just as 25psi says.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 01:56 AM
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Evos are tough cars to launch correctly. But when they do, they will leave a comparable rated car for dead (until about 3rd gear or so). Nevertheless, Evos are not drag cars. I took mine to the drag strip just to see what it could do versus my GS-T... After about 5 runs, I ended up with the best of a 13.2 @ 106 mph w/ a 1.75 60' STOCK. This felt like a perfect launch, but when I bogged it (I did that a lot, again, its hard to launch correctly) and ended up with high 13's. Mine is an 05 but its an MR, which has lighter wheels, alum. roof (lower center of grav.), 6spd, and a few other goodies, not much difference on a drag strip from the base 05 Evo GSR tho. But all 05's are slightly upgraded power/torque-wise over the 03-04 models via turbo modifications.

Nevertheless, w/ a stock Evo, the BCS pulls boost at higher RPM. If he has a boost controller at 19psi, that will make a large difference and allow it to hold longer in a high speed race. But still, w/ only light mods, an Evo will never hang for long against an LS1 at high speeds.
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