I'm "not" repeat "not" trying to start a post war between us Bob Cosby, so this will be my last post in this thread, but I just want to say it happened, and like I said before I can't prove it and also that I like both Ford and Chevy, so its not that. None of us should be arguing about Ford vs. Chevy, they are both American, its the damn ricers that we should be talking about.

 

Whatever floats your boat, dude.

 

cosby how do you feel about sn95s?

reason being ive been mainly looking at lt1 as thats all i can reall afford, for 7500, but recently ive started looking at 94-98 GTs and 94-95 cobras as there all around the same price.

dont get me wrong i love camaros and ta but finding an unmolested lt1 is getting pretty hard. especially with the optis/wp failing it sometimes concerns me, although ive heard as long as your careful they shouldnt give you too much problems. but can you offer me an any advice on mustangs of the similar year 93-98 or so.. as it seems your pretty competent with mustangs

 

thanks but my point is that both cars can be consider slow. ONLY until they were both modified, no matter wat was done, can you say that they are quick, fast; watever.

I understand tha a motor swap is more of a modification than a FI kit but the principles are the same.

that being said though, we all know that for example, a DOHC civic SI can be boosted to do 10'z in the 1320. It was cnsidered a "slow" car stock but now it "quick.....its all in how you modify or your means of speed but again, the prinviple is all relative...........

 

He prolly said that cuz of allt he tire shredding power lol loss of traction so it might not have taken off as quickly lol and then he wonders why theres all this smoke "is something rong wiht me car?"

 

hahahaha!!!!

 

my best time is a 10.6 on spray

 

If you are gonna look into SN95's.... look at 94-95 GT/Cobra's. If you moreso want a 4.6 over a 302, then look into the 4v cobras... as non PI headed 4.6's (96-98) really lack in the performance department.

I have 2 foxbodys as well as my 94 GT.... and my 94 is by far the most fun and burns up the tires through 3rd gear (but then again, the only thing stock on my motor is the block & crank )

 

Whats your best time OFF spray, you know, N/A????

I do believe that your car SHOULD be capable of running those times.....and not to step on your toes, but I don't believe your car has made any 1/4 mile passes. With a 150 shot, you ran 10.6, which would put you in the 12's with HEADS/CAM. LOTS of ALL MOTOR 4.6's are running low 12's and MUCH FASTER with heads/cam set ups, and even more 5.0's are doing it. I don't think you are a shining example of someone that should be "bashing" 4.6's, no offense intended.

I also agree that there are MORE, on average, FASTER all motor LS1's. THe compression, more cubes, and better aftermarket for heads and cam are the main reason.

 

try 11'z........

Also, your making it seem like the only reason why there are a faster amount of f-bodies is due to the aftemarket. Well, your mod style motor has been around for alot longer than that..(4 years=LS1). Also, your cobra is quick, and im not trying to start this again, due to the blower on top. Im a FIRM believer of "run wat you brung" but let see your motor run N/A for a single run.....

not trying to bash, i really like the new cobras but pointing out some logical observations.

 

[if you have a head cam car, and you are not in the 11's, you should be strangled..

if you are on the gun in your car (with a built motor), you should be in the 10's at least...

so far in this thread, the ford guys are winning the debate...

i know i can say this because hell i work for an LS1/6/2/7 speed shop and work on this site, but build fords because HEY... someone has to beat these guys

 

destroke your ls1 to a 281 and bring down the compression and see how your car runs

 

Stock Mach 1's have run that same ET, so I guess they are equally as slow as LS1's from the factory.

So 11's is "Fast" to you?
And all Mustangs "need" a blower/turbo or spray to really run fast/compete?

No blower here...
This Mach has since gone 11.69 on BFG drag radials.

A growing number of all-motor (all stock long-blocks BTW) naturally aspirated Mach 1's have run faster than 11.83 too.
Times are in the 11.6's, 11.7's and 11.8's with stock long-blocks...

Not to mention Bob Cosby, who ran in the high 11's with his '99 Cobra (stock long-block & all!),
and 11.4's with minor internal engine work (valve job, non-stroked).

10.6?

This heavy '99 Cobra 'vert ran about the same ET with the same 150 shot & less cubic inches:

'99 Cobra on 150 shot

 

This heavy '99 Cobra 'vert ran about the same ET with the same 150 shot & less cubic inches:

'99 Cobra on 150 shot

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so the cobra ran the same time KOOL. The ls1 still has way more potential than any mod motor. sO yah i can go farther if i felt like it and had more money. Let me be a *** for a second Is that cobra YOUR car? nope so i dont care

 

Really? Show me a stock headed LS1 that has gone deep into the 7's...cause they have done it with mod motors (yes, the 5.4 is a mod motor, and they have been in the 7's with stock heads on them).

Hell, show me a stock headed LS1 running low 8's. Outlaw Turbo Systems in FL went 8.70's on drag radials, and 8.30's on slicks with a stock headed 2v 4.6 with a 82mm turbo, stock suspension.

X2C Motorsports made over 900hp on a stock longblock 4v 4.6 with a 88mm turbo. Can you show me a stock longblock LS1 doing this?

 

**** let me go get a 3.8 v6 thatll stomp that???? nm its not mine. Im pretty sure theyre are ls1's making that much power on stock longblocks, i know theres a guy with a formula that post on here making some pretty fat numbers with a turbo, then u got the single turbo t/a walking built spuras with his stock short block

 

Your stupidity got the best of you.... you said the LS1 has more potential then the Modular ford. PROVE IT.

Ill repeat myself..

Show me a stock headed LS1 that has gone deep into the 7's...cause they have done it with mod motors (yes, the 5.4 is a mod motor, and they have been in the 7's with stock heads on them).

Hell, show me a stock headed LS1 running low 8's. Outlaw Turbo Systems in FL went 8.70's on drag radials, and 8.30's on slicks with a stock headed 2v 4.6 with a 82mm turbo, stock suspension.

X2C Motorsports made over 900hp on a stock longblock 4v 4.6 with a 88mm turbo. Can you show me a stock longblock LS1 doing this?

 

Let me just put it this way. GM has the best small block out NOW. I dont see how people argue with that? and why are all these mustang people on a LS1 site, isnt there corral.net or sum dumb ****?

 

Translation:

I have no ******* idea if I'm right or wrong, but I sure hope I'm right...

 

Just as i thought, you cant do so.....so you come back with "why are these mustangs owners on a ls1 site" comment

And i disagree with you.... until you can show me a LS1 that has gone into the 7's in the 1/4, on STOCK SHORTBLOCK, STOCK HEADS.... GM does not have the best smallblock out NOW. The Ford 5.4 Modular has done so, which would put it ahead of the LS1/LS6 in terms of being a better smallblock.