World's fastest stock turbo no n2o srt goes down..
03-26-2005, 02:00 PM
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you won drag radial to drag radial on even tires, you would probabily win slick to slick to!!! good job 12,2 is good for a neon but dont begin to think LS1s have a hard time comming up with a 12 second passes at the track. My friend has a neon that outran a few modded LS1s, he just has a boost controller, tuneing, exhaust, nitrous, and BFG drag radials. Theres a pic of his car in my sig.
03-26-2005, 03:15 PM
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Now it's time to swap clutch and rearend then get to the track and see what this turd can really do. Personally I think the 3.42's are hurting a bit. The plan is a spooled 12bolt w/ 4.10's running on e/t streets w/ skinnies up front. As far as a clutch I am watching this textralia "aussie" cutch. Any other suggestions?
03-26-2005, 08:45 PM
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what i meant to say was...
i can trap 123 mph and run a 12.0 on DR's
and i can trap a 123 mph and run a 13.0 on street tires.
sure it's the same car moving, but from a stop it isn't...your 12 sec. car just became a 13 sec car.
that's why i never run slicks at the track, it means ****, you're never out on slicks therefore it matters not what the car runs on slicks (per Dasmopar's case)
i can trap 123 mph and run a 12.0 on DR's
and i can trap a 123 mph and run a 13.0 on street tires.
sure it's the same car moving, but from a stop it isn't...your 12 sec. car just became a 13 sec car.
that's why i never run slicks at the track, it means ****, you're never out on slicks therefore it matters not what the car runs on slicks (per Dasmopar's case)
03-26-2005, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by robino
what i meant to say was...
i can trap 123 mph and run a 12.0 on DR's
and i can trap a 123 mph and run a 13.0 on street tires.
sure it's the same car moving, but from a stop it isn't...your 12 sec. car just became a 13 sec car.
that's why i never run slicks at the track, it means ****, you're never out on slicks therefore it matters not what the car runs on slicks (per Dasmopar's case)
i can trap 123 mph and run a 12.0 on DR's
and i can trap a 123 mph and run a 13.0 on street tires.
sure it's the same car moving, but from a stop it isn't...your 12 sec. car just became a 13 sec car.
that's why i never run slicks at the track, it means ****, you're never out on slicks therefore it matters not what the car runs on slicks (per Dasmopar's case)
03-26-2005, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by robino
what i meant to say was...
i can trap 123 mph and run a 12.0 on DR's
and i can trap a 123 mph and run a 13.0 on street tires.
sure it's the same car moving, but from a stop it isn't...your 12 sec. car just became a 13 sec car.
that's why i never run slicks at the track, it means ****, you're never out on slicks therefore it matters not what the car runs on slicks (per Dasmopar's case)
i can trap 123 mph and run a 12.0 on DR's
and i can trap a 123 mph and run a 13.0 on street tires.
sure it's the same car moving, but from a stop it isn't...your 12 sec. car just became a 13 sec car.
that's why i never run slicks at the track, it means ****, you're never out on slicks therefore it matters not what the car runs on slicks (per Dasmopar's case)
03-27-2005, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by robino
what i meant to say was...
i can trap 123 mph and run a 12.0 on DR's
and i can trap a 123 mph and run a 13.0 on street tires.
sure it's the same car moving, but from a stop it isn't...your 12 sec. car just became a 13 sec car.
that's why i never run slicks at the track, it means ****, you're never out on slicks therefore it matters not what the car runs on slicks (per Dasmopar's case)
i can trap 123 mph and run a 12.0 on DR's
and i can trap a 123 mph and run a 13.0 on street tires.
sure it's the same car moving, but from a stop it isn't...your 12 sec. car just became a 13 sec car.
that's why i never run slicks at the track, it means ****, you're never out on slicks therefore it matters not what the car runs on slicks (per Dasmopar's case)
I think the worlds fastest Pinto is around 6 seconds as well. But 
03-27-2005, 12:30 AM
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Nice kill 
And I call
on someone running a 12.2 suddenly becoming a 13 second car with BFG's. That would be a .5+ increase in 60 footer times and slicks aren't *that* much better on a 12 second car. On an 800 HP car? Yea, but not a 300 HP car.
And I call
on someone running a 12.2 suddenly becoming a 13 second car with BFG's. That would be a .5+ increase in 60 footer times and slicks aren't *that* much better on a 12 second car. On an 800 HP car? Yea, but not a 300 HP car.
03-27-2005, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Gloveperson
Nice kill
And I call on someone running a 12.2 suddenly becoming a 13 second car with BFG's. That would be a .5+ increase in 60 footer times and slicks aren't *that* much better on a 12 second car. On an 800 HP car? Yea, but not a 300 HP car.
And I call
on someone running a 12.2 suddenly becoming a 13 second car with BFG's. That would be a .5+ increase in 60 footer times and slicks aren't *that* much better on a 12 second car. On an 800 HP car? Yea, but not a 300 HP car.
03-27-2005, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Gloveperson
Nice kill
And I call on someone running a 12.2 suddenly becoming a 13 second car with BFG's. That would be a .5+ increase in 60 footer times and slicks aren't *that* much better on a 12 second car. On an 800 HP car? Yea, but not a 300 HP car.
And I call
on someone running a 12.2 suddenly becoming a 13 second car with BFG's. That would be a .5+ increase in 60 footer times and slicks aren't *that* much better on a 12 second car. On an 800 HP car? Yea, but not a 300 HP car.DRs to slicks at the track I would say a little difference not .8!
03-27-2005, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by robino
what i meant to say was...
i can trap 123 mph and run a 12.0 on DR's
and i can trap a 123 mph and run a 13.0 on street tires.
sure it's the same car moving, but from a stop it isn't...your 12 sec. car just became a 13 sec car.
that's why i never run slicks at the track, it means ****, you're never out on slicks therefore it matters not what the car runs on slicks (per Dasmopar's case)
i can trap 123 mph and run a 12.0 on DR's
and i can trap a 123 mph and run a 13.0 on street tires.
sure it's the same car moving, but from a stop it isn't...your 12 sec. car just became a 13 sec car.
that's why i never run slicks at the track, it means ****, you're never out on slicks therefore it matters not what the car runs on slicks (per Dasmopar's case)
Nice kill!
03-27-2005, 10:49 AM
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I would say its possible...... if your comparing DRs on a FRONT wheel drive on the street to slicks at the track. I would say there is a considerable difference, .8 maybe.
front drives rely hugely on traction.
my experience has been from stock 205's to 225's proxy t1s' a gain of .5 of a second.
from 225 t1s's to 225 bfg dr's another .4 of a second. I never tried slicks, i see no reason for them, i'll never ride around town with slicks on, so they mean nothing to me, sure i can go faster but...they come off when i go out anyway.
with front drives it's all in the launch. With DR's you can dump it at 3500 rpms and come out spinning a little then hook, spin a little in second then hook, spin a little in third then hook, then spray...then spin a little more, then hook, shift fourth and a couple secs later you're through.
with street tires (non DR's) it's spin off the line coming off idle and keep spinning through third gear, top of third you finally get traction and go on to the end. Huge diff. in ET's, about the same trap.
On a roll...highway speeds say, 60mph or so, it's ok to run against someone with street tires, unless you spray instantly.
I thought i had problems with traction until i rode in a 700+whp Supra yesterday, he has traction problems at 90mph. and at around 110 or so he stopped going sideways and slingshotted like he launched it off the line.
You guys take your rwd's for granted.
03-27-2005, 11:25 AM
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Is it just me or aren't supras rwd too? seeing how your point is us taking rwd for granted, your car having traction problems w/ the fwd. Then to back up your claim you use a rwd supra spinning tires at 90mph?
03-27-2005, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by robino
You guys take your rwd's for granted.
We all know the disadvantages of FWD, but Dasmopar chose his own weapon. I give him props for being willing to run from a dig.
03-27-2005, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by robino
finally, a guy that spends "some" time at the track and knows the deal...
front drives rely hugely on traction.
my experience has been from stock 205's to 225's proxy t1s' a gain of .5 of a second.
from 225 t1s's to 225 bfg dr's another .4 of a second. I never tried slicks, i see no reason for them, i'll never ride around town with slicks on, so they mean nothing to me, sure i can go faster but...they come off when i go out anyway.
with front drives it's all in the launch. With DR's you can dump it at 3500 rpms and come out spinning a little then hook, spin a little in second then hook, spin a little in third then hook, then spray...then spin a little more, then hook, shift fourth and a couple secs later you're through.
with street tires (non DR's) it's spin off the line coming off idle and keep spinning through third gear, top of third you finally get traction and go on to the end. Huge diff. in ET's, about the same trap.
On a roll...highway speeds say, 60mph or so, it's ok to run against someone with street tires, unless you spray instantly.
I thought i had problems with traction until i rode in a 700+whp Supra yesterday, he has traction problems at 90mph. and at around 110 or so he stopped going sideways and slingshotted like he launched it off the line.
You guys take your rwd's for granted.
front drives rely hugely on traction.
my experience has been from stock 205's to 225's proxy t1s' a gain of .5 of a second.
from 225 t1s's to 225 bfg dr's another .4 of a second. I never tried slicks, i see no reason for them, i'll never ride around town with slicks on, so they mean nothing to me, sure i can go faster but...they come off when i go out anyway.
with front drives it's all in the launch. With DR's you can dump it at 3500 rpms and come out spinning a little then hook, spin a little in second then hook, spin a little in third then hook, then spray...then spin a little more, then hook, shift fourth and a couple secs later you're through.
with street tires (non DR's) it's spin off the line coming off idle and keep spinning through third gear, top of third you finally get traction and go on to the end. Huge diff. in ET's, about the same trap.
On a roll...highway speeds say, 60mph or so, it's ok to run against someone with street tires, unless you spray instantly.
I thought i had problems with traction until i rode in a 700+whp Supra yesterday, he has traction problems at 90mph. and at around 110 or so he stopped going sideways and slingshotted like he launched it off the line.
You guys take your rwd's for granted.
03-27-2005, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by thebandit
Is it just me or aren't supras rwd too? seeing how your point is us taking rwd for granted, your car having traction problems w/ the fwd. Then to back up your claim you use a rwd supra spinning tires at 90mph?
Edit* That is why a lot of turbo racers use AWD!!!
03-27-2005, 01:32 PM
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I would say its possible...... if your comparing DRs on a FRONT wheel drive on the street to slicks at the track. I would say there is a considerable difference, .8 maybe. Front wheel drives are not known for their weight distribution, so they rely on tire adhesion....the better the adhesion the better the 60ft= ET
DRs to slicks at the track I would say a little difference not .8!
DRs to slicks at the track I would say a little difference not .8!
03-27-2005, 01:51 PM
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Gloveperson: It was my impression that he was on the street, with the DRs, during this race.........
Sounds like a street race....NO ETs posted for passes??????
Originally Posted by thebandit
at the local makeshift 1/4th mile and got two runs in.