Last time with you
No one claimed to be a BIKE KILLER, there was no three horn blowing BS, no flag, no green light...........Trap speed isn't relevant, its terminal speed from a roll, which can result in the bike being unprepared and in the wrong gear during the race Example: I wait till the bike grabs 2nd (cruising around 30-40) and I nail it This takes away alot of the bikes low end (by the time the guy realizes he needed to drop a gear, a car (reasonably fast car) could be 10-15 MPH ahead of the bike and pulling .........call it cheating or whatever.......you chase its a race! Like I said its taking something that has the advantage and taking advantage of it= level the playing field


NO DOUBT a 1000cc bike from a dead stop will work a street car.......thats not in question..........600cc are free game! (on tire I don't have a problem with them)

 

I agree 100%. However, that doesn't mean he didn't win the race. I've seen Z06's run 15's before. **** happens.

 

600cc free game?
a 600 can hang with my busa to lets say 100mph where it beginns to get walked bad.
any 600cc sportbike is no joke,but only if properly riden.they only make serious power from 6k,and after 10k,its a rush(pretty much).if you catch them at low rpms,its possible they are toast then.
anyway,in the next weeks,i gonna buy a 600gsxr and post a vid against my buddies viper(400+rwhp),just for fun.but dont call RIG if the 600wins

 

You should read more....its probably close to 400rwhp before he sprayed the 125 shot. I believe this story 100%.

 

yup,a whopping 400rwhp+125shot is sure as hell enough for a r1.very true.

 

in this case, it almost was

 

You are an IDIOT.........If a 600 runs with your Busa til 100
I've ran 2 600 head up and handed out a$$-whoopins to both in the Z >>pulled away on the big end (130+)
On my 9s............destroyed at GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm starting to believe you don't even have a bike.......just some dude bored and reads too many mags

 

omg,omg
rickey gadson has put a 600 r6 in the 9s 1/4mile stock.if you know how to ride em,you will definatelly go high 10s.no mag numbers,real world experiences.0-120mph in like 9seconds stock,and your car can do that?please...

 

Terror Rides: Check out cool footage of MO tankslapping down Carlsbad Raceway and playing tag at the Streets of Willow.



This bike likes two things: Going fast and leaning. Like Yamaha's YZF-R1 last year, the YZF-R6 is perhaps the most anticipated motorcycle of the year. Perhaps the sexiest looking Japanese sportbike made, the YZF-R6 is an uncompromising extreme supersport, which for some riders may be its biggest flaw. This is a motorcycle that is certainly not for everyone, evident from the diversity of opinions from our testers: It received three first-place votes and two third-place votes.


It likes those two things so much ... The YZF-R6 is a motorcycle that demands a more aggressive, physical riding style and rewards form. It can be unforgiving: The rear end is light, and tends to spin the tire if it's not warm -- Harrell almost highsided the R6 while putting around the track for the first time and at slow speeds. At higher velocities it has a slight tendency to run wide and it requires a smooth throttle hand. Although the power charts don't really show it, the R6 spins quickly up into the higher rpm range. The power and acceleration rush reminds one of a two-stroke GP 250 bike, soft at the bottom but accelerating fast and hard to redline. But don't forget the R6 is a four stroke. Engine breaking exists, in fact it is a bit more pronounced than on the others. If not careful, a ham-handed rider used to slower-revving and more-forgiving four strokes might find himself involuntarily wheeling away from a stoplight (not necessarily a bad thing) or draped over the handlebars under braking if he's not careful.


... that try as we might ... With the exception of needing heat in the rear tire, handling is rock-solid: Pick your spot (any line is fine, but early is better), lean over, accelerate throughout the turn then try to wipe the smile off your face. And you'll still feel like you could have pushed it harder through the corners. At 420 pounds measured the YZF-R6 was the lightest motorcycle in the comparison. Although Paul Harrell recorded the fastest time of the day on the F4, the R6 has a prodigious amount of ground clearance, and with race-compound tires we suspect that the R6 might have posted faster lap times because the F4 was already at the limit of its ground clearance. Of course, with a race pipe and footpegs, the Honda could've kept up, so suffice it to say that, in box-stock form, the Honda is slightly faster. Paul's best time aboard the R6 was 1:13.47. Roland's fasted lap of the day on any motorcycle was aboard the R6 at 1:13.96.
... we couldn't photograph the stupid bike doing anything else. The YZF-R6 was such an anticipated motorcycle that the hype at times overtook reality. True, the R6's redline is an over-the-top 15,500 rpm, but its power peaks where the remainder of the test bikes top out -- at 12,750 rpm -- although the R6 still produces a whopping 88.8 bhp at 15,000 rpm. Such prodigious over-rev will be a great advantage to racers while a relatively big bike that revs to 16 sure does look cool on the street. The other piece of hype that should be discounted is that the R6 will produce well over 100 bhp at the rear wheel. While our R6 produced only 94.8 bhp, most stock R6s tested so far made between 94 and 97 bhp, excellent numbers but not quite the 103 - 107 that a few journalists (including MO) speculated.

Leaning way over, going really fast, leaning way over, going really fast ... Sheesh. The YZF-R6 didn't perform particularly well at the drag strip, posting a 11.107 second quarter mile at 125.96 miles per hour, third fastest in the test.

SORRY MISSED THE PART WHERE IT SAID HE RAN A 9 STOCK
11s..............Z runs 11s......with a jump BYE BYE 600 LOL

 

Unless your referring to this


Larry "Spiderman" McBride kept his unbeaten streak alive as he once again marched through the short field. McBride qualified with a early shutoff 6.36/182 as he tested the short shutdown area but let it hang out in the final, running a 6.01 elapsed time at a booming 242 mph to take the win over the nitro Harley Davidson of Mike Romine who ran 6.66 at 198 mph.

In the Orient Express Funnybike Showdown Travis Davis scored his second win of the season in four-straight final round appearances. Tom Perry took the top qualifying spot with a career-best 6.76 at 202 mph and made his first final since Davis beat him in Atlanta. While Perry had the low e.t. of eliminations, (6.77 in round one) Davis was more consistent, and his final round 6.81/204 got the best of Perry's off-pace 7.03/198.

The Fast by Gast Pro Mod Series saw a pair of veteran racers vying for their first win in seven years and trying to shake off the bridesmaid blues. While eventual winner Mimmo Marciano has only been in one final since his last win in Atlanta in 1996, Steve Drake is 0-11 in final round appearances in the last 21 events he has competed in. Drake's last win came in New York, also in 1996.

Qualifying for the Norwalk field was led by Bernard Johnson on the Billy Vose-tuned Suzuki with a 6.84 at 193 mph followed by points leader Charlie Farrar on the C&W Cycleworks Kawasaki at 6.85 and Marciano with an identical 6.85. Johnson had troubles in eliminations and couldn't make the call for the semifinals giving Drake, who came out of the number 12 qualifying spot, a freebie into his third straight final. On the other side of the ladder Marciano got a holeshot decision over Farrar in a barnburner, 6.86 to Farrar's quicker 6.84.

Drake got the McKinney Motorsports Suzuki out of the gate first in the final and while he ran 6.80's all day, fell off to a 6.94 as Marciano took the win with a 6.88/185.

The most talked about class had to be Accel Pro Stock where street bike ace Keith "Shine" Dennis took out all-world veteran Paul Gast it what had to be the most exciting final on the year. At the previous event Dennis scored his first win and while that came at the expense of unheralded Kerry Yates, the real test would be against Gast.

Gast held the pole with a 7.18/186 on his Fast by Gast Hayabusa while Dennis placed second at 7.23 on the MSP Suzuki. Gast had an easy path to the final while Dennis had to win a tough semifinal tussle with Dean Franz to make his third final of the season.

Dennis simply got better as the event went on and he needed every bit of it. Gast hit a stout .420 light and clocked a 7.190, one thousands of a second off the low e.t. of the event. Shine overcame it with a telepathic .403 light coupled with a 7.197 elapsed time to take the win in a squeaker and extend his points lead.


The unbeaten streak finally ended for the Team Kawasaki ZX-12R in the Suzuki Formula Superbike class. Last season Jim Carroll took the bike to Prostar's first-ever perfect season - qualifying number one and winning every event. Manned by Chip Ellis this year the bike has continued on it's path with three straight event wins.

Ellis looked to keep the streak alive at Norwalk, qualifying number one at 8.12/164 and ran low e.t. of the meet in the first round with a 8.01/167. Ellis faced off with Tommy Miceli on the Del's Performance Yoyodyne/World Wide Bearings/Rimac Tools Hayabusa in the final in what would be the end of the streak. Miceli got wildly out of shape in the final but kept on the throttle and off the centerline and was able to reel Ellis in when an errant air-shifter kept the bike from shifting. Miceli took the win for the Del camp with a tire-spinning 8.36/160.

Rickey Gadson continued his jaw-dropping dominance in Streetbike Shootout with his fourth straight win. In a class where consistency in hard to come by Gadson has not only been consistent but consistently the quickest in the park on the Rob Muzzy-built, Coby Adams-tuned turbo Kawasaki ZX-12R. Gadson has never looked better.

Gadson's main competition has been from the Stotz Street Xtreme/VelocityRacing.com Honda team of Barry Henson and reigning two-time champ Kent Stotz. Try as they might the Honda team, with a pair of all-new and very complicated turbocharged machines have not been able to pull ahead of the green bike.

It was much the same at Norwalk. Gadson qualified on the pole with a 7.72/191 followed by "Duck" Lauer on the Flo-Tec nitrous Gixxer (7.87) and Keith Dennis on a nitrous Hayabusa (7.92). Henson and Stotz were relegated to the sixth and eighth spots, respectively. While Stotz continued to struggle on race day and was beaten by Gadson in round two, Henson came alive and made rounds to face Gadson in the final for the third time this season.

Henson brought his "A" game to the final and clicked off his best time of the event, a 7.75 at 185, but Gadson got him on the tree and turned on the win light with a 7.77 at 189 mph.


The Zero Gravity 600 SuperSport class has been a lot more interesting this season now that the all-conquering, two-time champ Ryan Schnitz has been pulled aside by Rob Muzzy to go NHRA Pro Stock racing. While Schnitz had won all but one race last season, the three events contested before Norwalk were won by three different riders.

Ed Murphy, Jr. took the emotional top qualifying spot on the ex-Mark Thatcher "Team Under Age Racing" ZX-6R clicking off a 9.89 at 136 mph to ledge out Team Green's Chip Hunter (9.892) and the Yamaha R6 of Eddie Krawiec (9.899). Schnitz was back in competition at Norwalk, serving as a blocker for former teammate Hunter on an '03 ZX-6R and qualified fifth behind St. Louis winner Pat Leonard.

The quarter finals were all buddy battles as Richard Gadson (nephew of Rickey) took out "Under Age Racing" teammate Murphy, Krawiec put Leonard on their shared trailer and Schnitz let Hunter get around him on the big end. The final was a repeat of the first event of the season where Hunter took out Krawiec, this time with a 9.93 to Krawiec's off-pace 10.18.


Mark Underwood looked poised to take his second straight win the Yamaha Hot Rod Cruiser class in his effort to defend his number one plate. Qualifying the Patrick Racing Warrior on the pole with a 9.45/140, Underwood ran a booming 9.42 in round one and even on a bad run he held a tenth on the rest of the field. Underwood easily marched to the final where he met Rick McWaters. McWaters, who was suspended last season with an illegally-modified cylinder head, served his suspension and served notice that he is a legitimate contender, taking his second win in three final round appearances this season on his Harley-Davidson. In true David vs. Goliath form, McWaters took out both Patrick Racing Warriors with holeshots, beating Michael Ray in the semifinals and Underwood in the final, running a 9.79 to Underwood's quicker 9.66.

The story in the Sportsman ranks was multi-time champ Bruce Sauer, who made his first race of the year after surviving a life-threatening illness to win Norwalk's $10K bracket event on Friday night. Sauer went on to runner-up in Top Gas competition.

Nothing stock about these bikes..............like I said quit reading mags
Thats like comparing my buddies 632 cu mountain motored tubed chassis 63 split window (7.63s) to your (so called ) Busa

 

I don't see anyone here saying they beat a strapped down, lowered, slicked, pro riden tweeked bike anywhere in the forums...........I'm done with nonsense!

 

Haha, complex? Nope. I'm just allergic to stupidity.

Threads like these make my head hurt. Someone come lock this thread. It's not even about the original topic anymore.

 

Venkman thanks for the support cause it almost was enough,but he still got me

AmMscl...i agree ive taken more than 1 600 from a roll on motor.

balkanbusa.....im not saying you dont have a bike and i agree that it was kind of hard to believe that i gave him a run for his money.BUT i do know a thing or 2 about bikes cause ive hung around some bike crews in town....and i know that once you get a BUSA..you dont go back and buy a GSXR600.its like having filet mignon and deciding to have fries and a shake with that.....Can i have that Supersized?after my buddy got his busa he said there was no way in hell hed go back to a 600 cause itd be like becoming a ***** even if he kept the busa!

 

You are aware that 99.9999% of riders aren't world champion racers right?

 

drdspider.the busa for highspeedruns and dayly driver,the 600 for road curses and twisties.600s are by far the best bikes for twisties.makes sense now?
try to follow a 600cc thru twisties with a busa.your going to have a hard time.i got my *** spanked yesterday by a 636ninja in a twistie road,not by much,but he owned me for sure.busa not beeing a superior track bike(long wheelbase,heavy),what speaks against a 600ccbike for the twisties.please someone explain me how to post pics and ill do it.

 

Did you walk up and slap the crap out of the owner of the Z06 after seeing that?

 

he's refering to the may 2005 cycle world, page 48. Stock 2005 R6 (lowered, strapped, down one tooth in the front) went 9.93 @ 135. I know that probably no one else will ever duplucate those times, but they are about as rare as the unusually high numbers/low times that Venkman's car runs. And before you say that lowerd/strapped/geared "isnt stock"....that's about as stock as a lid/cutout f body. Those 3 mods cost less than $200. Before the mods the bike went 10.51 @ 130. I'd post the link to the article but it doesn't look like cycle world has the may issue online just yet.

 

Also, AmMscl...way to go posting the results of a way old bike....that article is from 1999 when the R6 was brand new. That's like me saying LS1's are 14 second car's and backing it up by showing the stats of an LT1 car.

 

thank you blue six.exactly that 9.95 @ 135 i was referring.ok-1 in front,strapped,lowered.thats like lid adn catback on cars.and someone couldnt believe those 600 can hang with the bigger cc bikes till 100mph!?!
a non pro john bike can put
a 600cc in the 10s
a 750cc in the mid10s
a1000cc in the high9s,low10s
zx12,busa in the high9s,low 10 at very least.
average joe would do all that maybe .5sec slower.
and those idiots f.e. on the actual vids would probably hit mid12s on a 1000cc

 

Why is it you feel the need to stir it up again, because you ride a bike.................So now you feel like I'm attacking you or what.........
Sorry only a quick search..best I could do on short notice!!!!!!!! (I do have other things to do..vaction ends today )
I don't think strapping and lowering BLAH BLAH BLAH is your average riders bike for around town........is it?
This has got blown way out of proportion........because of "Busa boy" and his defense of the entire 2 wheel commuter nation.
I ride and own a 929 (not to mention owned 6 other bikes) (every Saturday you'll find me knee dragging Malibu Canyons)..............so I'm far from being inexperience with bikes or cars!

Can we all move on in life now, Please?