i'm with you 100% on that one!

 

Im gonna have to call on a 13.08 bolt on 5.0 , nice try tho

 

ditto...and as far as 500 hp from a trick flow headed mid sized cam 302...BULLSHIT!!! I went with my buddy mark with his 91 which had trick flow heads, trick flow intake and the e303 and he put down 251 rwhp on a mustang dyno. With tuning he might have made 270 rwhp. With forced induction or big cubes fox bodies are cool, but with a 302 you might as well be driving a fridge.

Nate

 

Go ahead. Call BS all you want. It happened. You want specific details and the track location and date???? Silly child. Grow up. Cars other than those powered by LS1's can be fast.

 

this thread shows ignorance and lack of knowledge outside of LS1's...


the 13.08 is possible with traction...

and the H/C/I fox that cant get out of the 14's just shows plain stupidity...

 

All I am saying is what I have seen.. Stock 5.0 302 Mustangs put down under 200rwhp on the dyno. Seen it.. A 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 runs a 14.9 quarter mile.. Stock. Seen it...a vortech supercharger thrown on the same car with a couple of Bolt ons.. LOW 13 sec 1/4 mile(almost 13 flat).. Seen it.... Take 2 seconds off the quarter mile time.. Seems reasonable. Do your research.. Get out in the field.. No ignorance here. And ANYTHING can be made fast.. I have seen these 302's made fast.. 15 sec 1/4 mile(STOCK) isn't very fast though..

 

Exactly what he said.

Nate

 

they will learn the hard way. that's why i shack my head at some of the stupidity on this forum.

 

Where you located? Wanna race my little N/A 302? It's a heavy *** SN95

 

I will admit there is a lack of knowledge, but this is a LS1 site. What would you expect? I see no ignorance here. You have a guy who claims that there is a BLOWN 347 that he could only get 13's out of. Sorry, but I found the ignorance part of your comment unecessary.

 

LOL well **** guys i'm grabbing the keys right now an heading to sears to get a fridge i hope all the other 302 owners didn't get smart and do this too. I hope they have some stainless ones left i'd look good sporting one of those on dubcaps .

 

89tang, i'm with you man. These guys have not seen a nasty 302. I see them haulin *** and killin GM's all the time. Didn't the CHP have them at one time? and basically chase down an M3?

 

maybe your buddy had mis matched parts. if you really think 302's are junk fine. just shows ignorance. i suggest you start reading magazines like car craft they build up big power small blocks all the time. there has been plenty of 302's to hit the 500hp mark n/a. the windor engines are pry the up there with the best engines ever made, stock they will last 150,000 miles or more without much trouble if any as long as you properly maintain them. if you build them they make big power and last long and are cheap! i really dont see how anyone could find fault with them. especially if you are on a budget like most people. oh and btw i didnt say '500hp with a mid sized cam' i said with a BIG hydralic roller.

 

I would believe a windsor or cleveland motor could make that power no problem, but I have never been impressed with N/A 302's and you can quote all the 13.08 bolt on cars you want, I still am not that impressed.

Nate

 

im not really sure what you mean, i never stated anything about 13 sec flat 5.0L, now is it possible? sure with good suspension id bet someone has. did you mean to say your not impressed with a bolt on 5.0's performance? i thought you meant basically all 302ci small block fords performance from the way your previous post sounded and also that 500hp was unatainable out of 302c.i

 

Got this from a stangnet member's sig.
1989 Mustang LX:
Stock Heads (valves), Stock Cam, Cobra intake, and bolt ons, 3.73s.
Slicks:12.56 @ 105.83 w/ 1.69 60'
Radials:12.99 @ 107.91 w/ 2.06 60'

So you can believe what you want about the n/a 302's

 

no, but stock ls1's do...is it really that suprising that a mustang has a hard time reaching for 13 second time slips? my buddy had an 03 mustang gt 5 speed with 4.10s, LTs, x pipe, intake, MAF and ran 14s

 

302's are slow **** supercharged or not

 

lol yeh 302's are slow **** till a raggy lookin 89 completly hands you your ***. then maybe that will humble your "I have a LS1 so i cant possibly lose" compiled with "i drive a vette" attitude heads/came spray or not. just wait its always the raggy lookin 5.0's you'll learn eventually.

 

Well, I'm sure I'll be seen as a troll for a while on this board, but I'm here to stay. I've been on LS1.com for more than 4 years and have been on some of the mustang boards even longer.

That said, I'd just like to add my 2 cents:

5.0s do not make 500 hp easily without some type of forced induction. I've seen it done naturally aspirated with a flat tappet cam, carbed application several times - close to 450 to the wheels. I've also seen over 400 rwhp with a hydrolic roller cam once and it was fuel injected. That's pretty impressive for only 302 c.i. of displacement. These were street (read: low revving) applications.

Someone said that he could see it done with a windsor or cleveland, but not a 302? The 302 is a windsor.

Stock mustang 5.0s can roll a little more quickly than many of you are giving them credit for. My 89 with nothing more than advanced timing and a K&N stock replacement filter went 14.2@98mph with over 100,000 miles on the motor on Radial T/As - street radials. Anyone that wants to see documented proof that 5.0s could get into the 13s bonestock can shoot me and email at Chris42Arnold@yahoo.com, and I'll send you back an old Cars illustrated article of Tony Defeo running a 13.9 in a hatchback 5.0 (the coupes were lighter) bone stock.

My last n/a 302 went 11.9@112.9mph with AFR 165 heads, a ported cobra intake, and a custom hydrolic cam.

My current mustang is not a drag racer, but is a stock 5.0 pushing 9 psi and went 12.21@117.9mph last year on street radials. This year I'll up the boost a few lbs and gets some slicks and will go 10s.

Just my 2 cents,

Chris