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Old 07-18-2005 | 02:01 AM
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Dyno numbers vary (and can be manipulated)......360s is the ave. I see out here in Ca....could be the 91 octane and weather playing its part......In the dead of winter in MI on 93 octane and a happy dyno anything is possible, but a GTO beating a Cobra isn't!
Umm, I disagree. A '05 GTO beating a '03/04 Cobra is very possible and has already been done a few times. Remember driver plays a part and these two cars are close enough in performance that driver error can be the difference.

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Old 07-18-2005 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TORNATIC!!
Umm, I disagree. A '05 GTO beating a '03/04 Cobra is very possible and has already been done a few times. Remember driver plays a part and these two cars are close enough in performance that driver error can be the difference.

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As I previously stated...they are pretty evenly matched, with (in my opinion) the Cobra having a slight advantage. And yes...I agree a driver makes all the difference.......But with equally matched drivers= Cobra over the GTO
Old 07-18-2005 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TORNATIC!!
Umm . . . A '05 GTO beating a '03/04 Cobra is very possible . . . these two cars are close enough in performance . . .
Old 07-18-2005 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TORNATIC!!
Umm, I disagree. A '05 GTO beating a '03/04 Cobra is very possible and has already been done a few times. Remember driver plays a part and these two cars are close enough in performance that driver error can be the difference.

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It would definitely be a drivers race, I dont think anyone would dispute that. But the original post asked which would win if both had the same driver.

What would you guys give the win too?

05 GTO or 03 Cobra, stock for stock and the same driver!
Old 07-18-2005 | 08:27 AM
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You think Forced induction vs non is fair? You are sounding like the rice community. It takes them FI to compete for them or $10,000 in motor work. I'm not making excuses, I up and said the 03-04 Cobra is a bad assed car, and stock v stock against the GTO (5.7 or 6.0), LS1, the cobra willl win givin all things equal.
Run watcha brung.

I have no problem racing just about any car - forced-induction, bigger engine, whatever. That includes '04 & '05 GTO's with 65 or 85 more cubic inches.

If I lose, I either need more mods, more practice driving, or both.

I haven't had to worry about losing to any of the '04/'05 GTO's I've run across though...
Old 07-18-2005 | 04:59 PM
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cobra get my vote. i think the f body and gt slo are pretty even stock for stock. my 01 ws6 went 13.3's stock but i've only seen one gto at the track and it went 14's. my bud has a new 05 and stays pretty even with my other buds 00z28 w/borla and lid.
Old 07-18-2005 | 06:36 PM
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bottom line. forced induction or not they are both stock and the cobra will probably win I guess the gto has a chance of winning but still don't bring forced Induction into view they are still stock which means that the cobra comes from the factory with a blower (for those of you who did'nt know that)
Old 07-18-2005 | 07:17 PM
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stock and same driver(equal) Cobra everytime and pulling hard up top.
Mine went 12.62 @ 111 stock down to airpressure. GTO's are nice cars, I tried to buy my wife one. Her boss just got a Silver '05, his goal is to beat my truck.
Old 07-19-2005 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MA1384
It would definitely be a drivers race, I dont think anyone would dispute that. But the original post asked which would win if both had the same driver.
I was responding to a post on page 4 where a guy said a '05 GTO has no chance.
Old 07-19-2005 | 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AmMscl
As I previously stated...they are pretty evenly matched, with (in my opinion) the Cobra having a slight advantage. And yes...I agree a driver makes all the difference.......But with equally matched drivers= Cobra over the GTO
Yeah I know. The Cobra has more hp and weighs less advantage COBRA imo. I was responding to a post on page 4 where a guy said the '05 GTO has no chance.
Old 07-23-2005 | 03:41 PM
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I've seen 03-04 cobras only pull 340's at the wheels and i've seen a stock goat pull 355 rwhp not every car is the same! I know a cobra is a good run with a 02' 345hp m6 camaro!
Old 07-23-2005 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by raymond mckinney
I know a cobra is a good run with a 02' 345hp m6 camaro!
Yeah...and my bone stock '00 Z28 would give a "345hp" camaro a run. They all pretty much make the same power. That 345hp package is a joke.
Old 07-23-2005 | 06:24 PM
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Half of the posts here are about who's faster STOCK. Here on LS1TECH, I don't see hardly anyone who is stock anymore. Why don't you do comparisons, like the always mentioned pulley, full exhaust, chipped Cobra, versus, say, a cam only 05 GTO. You think Ford engineers DIDN'T know you could make mid 400's with just the above mentioned mods? Or that the GTO can make more power with tuning and a bigger cam? Of course they're not going to introduce an overpowered car to the market. Its up to the people who buy them to mod them, and they usually do. Or, how about you give 5 grand in mod money to both cars, and see what they can do?

This post sounds like a motor trend, or a Car & Driver article. Stock for stock comparisons are for grandmas and grandpas.
Old 07-23-2005 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JBGRAYTA
Half of the posts here are about who's faster STOCK.
Good point JB.




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