Firehawk vs. Mach1???
07-30-2005, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by turbols1_05
I eat Mach's for dinner modified or not, but thats with turbo Love that spool
What does your car run in the 1/4 with the turbo?
Originally Posted by turbols1_05
(all motor and few bolt ons would still kill Machs).
My manual-trans Mach is all-motor (stock motor with NOTHING done internally) and I hold my own against all but the most serious LS1 F-Bodies at my local track.
07-30-2005, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dan03mach
I got my info from the track's scale when me at full weight and full tank of fuel weighed 3400 lbs even, and a friends 02 Z28 weight a little over 3600 lbs at full weight.. I didn't go by what is said on the sticker.. I read it from the scale in front of me at the track..
My brother works at a quarry, so we have full access to the scale that weighs the trucks as they are leaving. Nice to be able to do that, but the quarry dust on nicely polished f-body sucks.
07-30-2005, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dan03mach
I got my info from the track's scale when me at full weight and full tank of fuel weighed 3400 lbs even, and a friends 02 Z28 weight a little over 3600 lbs at full weight.. I didn't go by what is said on the sticker.. I read it from the scale in front of me at the track..
P.S. Gas weighs about 6 lbs a gallon .... 15 gallons = ~90lbs ... we're not talking about a huge difference between half tank and full tank ... it is realistically only 40-50lbs.
07-30-2005, 01:44 PM
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isnt the engine in the mach the same as the friggin 99-01 svt cobras? i know for sure the 03-04 cobras are hot. but i hear the 99-01 svt cobras are slow? never ran one. but i got 2 buddys with machs. a 03 and 04. my buddy with the 03 has a prochamber, no cats, flows, and predator tuned. he ran against my buddies c5 vette at the track. he got his a@@ handed. the c5 was stock. i forgot what the vette ran but he ran a 14.1@99 mph at san antonio raceway. my other buddy with a red 04 was stock and ran a 14.2. but he span out forever man. dont get me wrong the machs are potent. but i still like the ls1 in a race.
07-30-2005, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by blackfang
I know Mightymouse's car weighs around 3600 if I am not mistaken.
Here is a link to a list of all his mods:
Mightymouse`s Page
07-30-2005, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
isnt the engine in the mach the same as the friggin 99-01 svt cobras? i know for sure the 03-04 cobras are hot. but i hear the 99-01 svt cobras are slow? never ran one. but i got 2 buddys with machs. a 03 and 04. my buddy with the 03 has a prochamber, no cats, flows, and predator tuned. he ran against my buddies c5 vette at the track. he got his a@@ handed. the c5 was stock. i forgot what the vette ran but he ran a 14.1@99 mph at san antonio raceway. my other buddy with a red 04 was stock and ran a 14.2. but he span out forever man. dont get me wrong the machs are potent. but i still like the ls1 in a race.
99/01 Cobras are a mid 13 second car in stock form once you learn how to drive the IRS. You are also comparing a race at a track. What was the conditions at that track?, Sea level? Prep? etc all those things will affect an ET.
07-30-2005, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawk312
Must be nice. 
He ever take you for a ride in it? 
He ever take you for a ride in it? On my website is Davids dyno video as well at Performance Autosport.
07-30-2005, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
isnt the engine in the mach the same as the friggin 99-01 svt cobras? i know for sure the 03-04 cobras are hot. but i hear the 99-01 svt cobras are slow? never ran one. but i got 2 buddys with machs. a 03 and 04. my buddy with the 03 has a prochamber, no cats, flows, and predator tuned. he ran against my buddies c5 vette at the track. he got his a@@ handed. the c5 was stock. i forgot what the vette ran but he ran a 14.1@99 mph at san antonio raceway. my other buddy with a red 04 was stock and ran a 14.2. but he span out forever man. dont get me wrong the machs are potent. but i still like the ls1 in a race.
07-30-2005, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
isnt the engine in the mach the same as the friggin 99-01 svt cobras?
Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
i know for sure the 03-04 cobras are hot. but i hear the 99-01 svt cobras are slow? never ran one. but i got 2 buddys with machs. a 03 and 04. my buddy with the 03 has a prochamber, no cats, flows, and predator tuned. he ran against my buddies c5 vette at the track. he got his a@@ handed. the c5 was stock. i forgot what the vette ran but he ran a 14.1@99 mph at san antonio raceway. my other buddy with a red 04 was stock and ran a 14.2. but he span out forever man. dont get me wrong the machs are potent. but i still like the ls1 in a race.
07-31-2005, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
isnt the engine in the mach the same as the friggin 99-01 svt cobras? i know for sure the 03-04 cobras are hot. but i hear the 99-01 svt cobras are slow? never ran one. but i got 2 buddys with machs. a 03 and 04. my buddy with the 03 has a prochamber, no cats, flows, and predator tuned. he ran against my buddies c5 vette at the track. he got his a@@ handed. the c5 was stock. i forgot what the vette ran but he ran a 14.1@99 mph at san antonio raceway. my other buddy with a red 04 was stock and ran a 14.2. but he span out forever man. dont get me wrong the machs are potent. but i still like the ls1 in a race.
My buddy has an 01 that is pretty much a stock DD. It ran 13.50's.
07-31-2005, 01:19 PM
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thanks for the info. i just thought it was the same motor. but one thing is for sure though bout stangs, they sound good as hell with friggin blowmasters man.. i know all the fbody guys hate flowsmasters and they sound like crap on ls1 but sound sick on stangs....
07-31-2005, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
thanks for the info. i just thought it was the same motor. but one thing is for sure though bout stangs, they sound good as hell with friggin blowmasters man.. i know all the fbody guys hate flowsmasters and they sound like crap on ls1 but sound sick on stangs....
08-08-2005, 09:56 PM
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Hey guys i finally got to race a Mach 1 this last Saturday. We were at the street races and i saw it so i hit him up about it and he was bone stock just like my car. So we race and i put about 2 cars on him. He was a fender on me from the launch then it was over when i got into second. After the race he told me that he raced a bone stock 98 Z28 and that he took it by a car and half, so he thought he was going to beat me, but he is getting full exhaust done and wants to race me again next week so I told him sure. Real cool guy though.
08-08-2005, 11:46 PM
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same trans ls1s are faster.FACT.
machs are not lighter.both cars are similar in weight.machs might put power down more smoothly from a launch but ls1s will overpower them midway down the track and slowly pass them.
close race yes.
advantage to ls1s.
machs are not lighter.both cars are similar in weight.machs might put power down more smoothly from a launch but ls1s will overpower them midway down the track and slowly pass them.
close race yes.
advantage to ls1s.
08-08-2005, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TRMach1
Frankly, NO! Different heads, cams, intake, and exhaust.
What kind of elevation is San Antonio raceway? Because those cars are running a good 1.0 second and 5-7mph off what they can run at or near sea level. Low 13's, high 12's are very well within the capabilities of a Mach 1, however, not every driver is capable of getting the most out of the car. Dead, bone stock, right from the dealership, with a full tank of gas, my Mach 1 turned a 13.1 @105 and I'm far from the best driver in the world.
What kind of elevation is San Antonio raceway? Because those cars are running a good 1.0 second and 5-7mph off what they can run at or near sea level. Low 13's, high 12's are very well within the capabilities of a Mach 1, however, not every driver is capable of getting the most out of the car. Dead, bone stock, right from the dealership, with a full tank of gas, my Mach 1 turned a 13.1 @105 and I'm far from the best driver in the world.
on machs running 12s stock wthout DRs.