Raced a supercharged S2000
08-29-2005, 02:31 PM
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Yeah, supercharged S2k's typically only run high 12's to low 13's. That guy must've had a built motor & who knows what else. Are you sure it wasn't a Turbo S2k?
08-29-2005, 02:34 PM
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Ok they went from a 40 roll. I haven't looked to see if the video is still working, but here's a direct quote from the TA owner off of a local board.
Not bad for a blown S2K. Proof's in the pudding for the non-believers. I didn't remember the exact race, but I knew the S2K started pulling back up top.
And here's a quote from the S2K owner as to why he fell in behind the TA owner.
Originally Posted by TRYMYTA
Heres a video from last night. I ran a Supercharged S2000 real Cool Guy. Heard he had put down a handful of V8's So I asked the guy if he would run. He was up for it. I told him what I had and said im running a small 75 shot instead of my usual 150 he was like cool. We went out , went from a 40 roll. agreed estimated 1/4 mile to be at 130MPH ,so first in front at 130 takes it. We hit it and I got the jump put about 3 cars on him then he pulls back hard at about 100 by 130 when i backed off he was right on my bumber. His Car had an awesome top end. He would definetly had pulled past me if we would have been playing chase. Great run Chad. 
Hope to see you again. Like I said man First time for everything.
Video CLICK HERE If your on Dial Up Just download it then play. Its Windows Media
Hope to see you again. Like I said man First time for everything.Video CLICK HERE If your on Dial Up Just download it then play. Its Windows Media
And here's a quote from the S2K owner as to why he fell in behind the TA owner.
Originally Posted by Black Nugget
Nah he stayed stationary in his lane. I was in the far left lane - he was in the middle lane. For some reason his friend in a Black TA was in my lane further up. Once I noticed we were closing in fast I switched lanes to get behind him (trymyta), the once I started pulling on him more I switched lanes again to go around.
08-29-2005, 02:45 PM
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Haha why? The guy is local. I've seen the car on numerous occasions and have talked to the owner for hours while we were both at a local track. It's all stock internals with a Vortech S/C.
08-29-2005, 02:48 PM
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if it's just a bolt on supercharger then there is no ******* way he would be able to pull a mid 11 second car...
S/Ced s2k's trap around 110mph, T/A had to be a 120+mph car.... tell me how would s2k pull him?
S/Ced s2k's trap around 110mph, T/A had to be a 120+mph car.... tell me how would s2k pull him?
08-29-2005, 03:01 PM
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Maybe you should stop benchracing with "magazine" times and go by the real world. There's the video to prove it. Believe it if you want, but it happened. God forbid anything other than an LS1 beat another LS1. 
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08-29-2005, 03:09 PM
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where in the manazine they run a S/Ced s2k? I go by my friend's numbers that he got....
High 12s with 110-112mph traps... what's so hard to understand here? Now go look at the time slips of f-bodies and you will see that we trap at 120+ with a cam and nitrous. Do the math... or you need help?
High 12s with 110-112mph traps... what's so hard to understand here? Now go look at the time slips of f-bodies and you will see that we trap at 120+ with a cam and nitrous. Do the math... or you need help?
08-29-2005, 03:13 PM
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No there's your problem. You're going by someone else's time and last time I checked that's bench racing. I didn't necessarily mean magazine times...it's a saying.
Like I said I posted the video along with quotes from both owners of both cars. I don't understand why it's so hard for you to understand. The S2000 clearly pulled back up top. Granted the Honda most likely would've gotten beat in the 1/4 mile that's not what they raced. There's a video and that's the only proof I need. I've heard stories about how beast that car is and well now I see it.
The guy in the TA doesn't have an agressive came either. I think he has a TSP Torquer.
Like I said I posted the video along with quotes from both owners of both cars. I don't understand why it's so hard for you to understand. The S2000 clearly pulled back up top. Granted the Honda most likely would've gotten beat in the 1/4 mile that's not what they raced. There's a video and that's the only proof I need. I've heard stories about how beast that car is and well now I see it.
The guy in the TA doesn't have an agressive came either. I think he has a TSP Torquer.
08-29-2005, 03:17 PM
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It's still hard to believe that a car that traps 10mph more got beat at a higher speed. As you know LS1s pull very nicely up top and it looked like TA was getting destroyed by that s2k.
It just doesn't make sense. 300whp VS 450whp+, even with TA being heavier, it doesn't make sense... I think that s2k was making way more than 300whp...
It just doesn't make sense. 300whp VS 450whp+, even with TA being heavier, it doesn't make sense... I think that s2k was making way more than 300whp...
08-29-2005, 03:18 PM
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The TA put down like 345RWHP or so with the cam and off the spray and the S2K is putting down a little over 300RWHP. Like I said the TA doesn't have an aggressive cam. His TQ #'s are through the roof.
08-29-2005, 03:24 PM
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345whp? That's it? Makes a little more sense now. I was expecting somewhere near 400whp for the TA.
So 345 + 65 with spray would be around 410whp and 3600lbs VS 300whp with 2800lbs.... hmmm this video makes more sense now, but I still think that the outcome would have been a little different. Did TA have gears? Did he shift into 4th?
So 345 + 65 with spray would be around 410whp and 3600lbs VS 300whp with 2800lbs.... hmmm this video makes more sense now, but I still think that the outcome would have been a little different. Did TA have gears? Did he shift into 4th?
08-29-2005, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by OdessitPashka
345whp? That's it? Makes a little more sense now. I was expecting somewhere near 400whp for the TA.
So 345 + 65 with spray would be around 410whp and 3600lbs VS 300whp with 2800lbs.... hmmm this video makes more sense now, but I still think that the outcome would have been a little different. Did TA have gears? Did he shift into 4th?
So 345 + 65 with spray would be around 410whp and 3600lbs VS 300whp with 2800lbs.... hmmm this video makes more sense now, but I still think that the outcome would have been a little different. Did TA have gears? Did he shift into 4th?
08-29-2005, 03:28 PM
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The S2K is putting down quite a bit more than I thought. I had him PM his info to me. It's a Comptech SC by the way not a Vortech. Dave the guy with the other SCed S2K has a Vortech.
Here ya go.
Here ya go.
Originally Posted by Black Nugget
358.6 whp / 203.2 wtq
Engine
AEM EMS w/ Built-In Wideband (tuned by Brady at Custom Car Care)
Comptech Supercharger with Aftercooler
3.25" Pulley (On Humid Day Rated 9.75psi to Motor) (tuner says I should gain another 1 - 1.5psi at motor under cooler temperature)
RC Engineering 650cc Injectors
AEM High Flow Fuel Rail
AEM 3.5 Bar Map Sensor
OEM Clutch & Throw-Out Bearing
Comptech Lightened Flywheel
ACT Heavy Duty Pressure Plate
JIC Test Pipe (High Flow Cat)
Spoon N1 Exhaust
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
Spoon Radiator Hose
Spoon Thermoswitch
Spoon Radiator Cap
Spoon Reservoir Covers
Conservative tune using 57psi fuel pressure (FPR maxed at 71psi) & 11.6:1 A/F under full boost wide open throttle.
Suspension
Stock Wheels Painted NSX Gunmetal
Advan A032R Tires 205/55ZR16 Front 225/50ZR16 Rear
Mugen Lug Nuts
Tein CS Coilovers (starting to go bad)
Digrapa X-Brace
Speed Rear Lower Tie Bar (Spoon Sister Company)
Exterior
OEM Hardtop
Authentic Gears Front Lip (1 of 4 in US)
Seibon Carbon Fiber Hood
Ricks Single Outlet Exhaust Cover
OEM Rear Spoiler
Black Chrome "H" and S2000 (fender) Emblems
JDM Smoked Corner Lenses
JDM Clear Side Markers
THIS PIC IS PRIOR TO INSTALLATION OF EMS, AEM 3.5 BAR MAP SENSOR & AEM HIGH FLOW FUEL RAIL
let me know if you need anything else bud.
chad
ps - i need to talk to you sometime about a possible photo shoot after i get my car back up & running
Engine
AEM EMS w/ Built-In Wideband (tuned by Brady at Custom Car Care)
Comptech Supercharger with Aftercooler
3.25" Pulley (On Humid Day Rated 9.75psi to Motor) (tuner says I should gain another 1 - 1.5psi at motor under cooler temperature)
RC Engineering 650cc Injectors
AEM High Flow Fuel Rail
AEM 3.5 Bar Map Sensor
OEM Clutch & Throw-Out Bearing
Comptech Lightened Flywheel
ACT Heavy Duty Pressure Plate
JIC Test Pipe (High Flow Cat)
Spoon N1 Exhaust
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
Spoon Radiator Hose
Spoon Thermoswitch
Spoon Radiator Cap
Spoon Reservoir Covers
Conservative tune using 57psi fuel pressure (FPR maxed at 71psi) & 11.6:1 A/F under full boost wide open throttle.
Suspension
Stock Wheels Painted NSX Gunmetal
Advan A032R Tires 205/55ZR16 Front 225/50ZR16 Rear
Mugen Lug Nuts
Tein CS Coilovers (starting to go bad)
Digrapa X-Brace
Speed Rear Lower Tie Bar (Spoon Sister Company)
Exterior
OEM Hardtop
Authentic Gears Front Lip (1 of 4 in US)
Seibon Carbon Fiber Hood
Ricks Single Outlet Exhaust Cover
OEM Rear Spoiler
Black Chrome "H" and S2000 (fender) Emblems
JDM Smoked Corner Lenses
JDM Clear Side Markers
THIS PIC IS PRIOR TO INSTALLATION OF EMS, AEM 3.5 BAR MAP SENSOR & AEM HIGH FLOW FUEL RAIL
let me know if you need anything else bud.
chad
ps - i need to talk to you sometime about a possible photo shoot after i get my car back up & running
08-29-2005, 03:35 PM
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Yeah it's all good. I was just trying to point out that you can't go by someone else's times just because they have a car with a SC on it too.
No hard feelings.
No hard feelings.
08-29-2005, 03:38 PM
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No hard feelings at all man. I just know how those cars should run with a SC setup and this particular s2k was definitely quicker than just a regular SCed s2k.
08-29-2005, 05:44 PM
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I think there is some unseen info involved in that race. I do not think that S2k would pull like that up top even with 350rwhp. By the way, that is NOT a small cam by any means in that LS1. You have to remember that at higher speeds, from a roll weight is less of a factor and raw power is much more of a factor. The LS1 at least 60 more rwhp, and a ton more torque yet the S2k somehow manages to pull 5 cars on it between 100 & 130mph?!? Think about it...the TA was ahead at least 2 cars, so its 3 car lengths to pull even with the TA plus it pulls another 2 cars ahead before the video ends = 5 cars. Maybe its something with the gearing or the stall in the tranny that makes the TA fall on its face at that speed but no way in hell should that S2k have pulled like that up top.
Maybe the S2k secretly sprayed??
The one I raced has 290whp and I have probably 340rwhp (my car is not even tuned so maybe not even). I also have a stereo and have a race weight of about 3800lbs. So my hp advantage here is only about 50rwhp, which is less than the advantage in the other racing and I was pulling on this guy in 4th gear. yet the other TA gets pulled 5 cars in 4th? I don't think so....I mean I know it happened, but there is somethign else going on...
Maybe the S2k secretly sprayed??
The one I raced has 290whp and I have probably 340rwhp (my car is not even tuned so maybe not even). I also have a stereo and have a race weight of about 3800lbs. So my hp advantage here is only about 50rwhp, which is less than the advantage in the other racing and I was pulling on this guy in 4th gear. yet the other TA gets pulled 5 cars in 4th? I don't think so....I mean I know it happened, but there is somethign else going on...
08-29-2005, 08:54 PM
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Yeah well I was just told the TA sprayed when they took off that's where the 3 cars came and when the S2k pulled on him some more he sprayed again.
Look at his ******* motor. It's what it is. There's no spray. I don't know why you guys are so reluctant to believe that the S2K pulled that LS1 up top like that. It's an A4 is that matters any.
And quite frankly I don't find 341RWHP tuned after a cam very impressive that's why I said the cam wasn't that big. I know A4's don't see as high of #'s as M6's do, but hell I probably have that much and all I have is an M6 with LT's and TD's.
Look at his ******* motor. It's what it is. There's no spray. I don't know why you guys are so reluctant to believe that the S2K pulled that LS1 up top like that. It's an A4 is that matters any.
And quite frankly I don't find 341RWHP tuned after a cam very impressive that's why I said the cam wasn't that big. I know A4's don't see as high of #'s as M6's do, but hell I probably have that much and all I have is an M6 with LT's and TD's.