boosted99camaro

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alls I have to say is it was a cool race and both cars are cool.
ls1 fbody cars are fast and s2k are fast.
one thing I must say about that s2k is from the pics it has a novi 2000 head unit thats a kick *** unit you can make tons of power with that.
also what is the weight of a s2k with even 300rwhp those things should fly.

Black Nugget

Nope, only the NOVI 1000
With my current setup I am maxing out the impeller speed on the NOVI 1000. Late last week I contacted Shad over at Comptech (he specializes in S2000 applications) and asked him about having my motor fully built and upgrading to the NOVI 2000 Blower. He told me the NOVI 2000 will bolt right on - however it wont meet my needs.
He said that there is a shop in LA Area who experimented with this change - though the NOVI 2000 did bolt up, they were putting out less power with the NOVI 2000 than the NOVI 1000. When I asked why he merely said the 2.0L S2000 motor just wasn't strong enough to spin the larger blower

However, speaking with another friend he said to bypass Shad at Comptech and call over to Paxton themselves for an answer. Problem is last time I did that I had to sit on hold for over 20 minutes - shortly followed by a 1-word answer tech who really didn't seem like he was to interested in helping out.

Needless to say - I have decided to stick with the NOVI 1000 and consider my current setup to be enough.

Black Nugget

Hmmm, I am a tad bit confused by this one. You ran the other supercharged s2000 and you said you pulled away from him. However now you are saying that you will race my friend with the stock vortech unit & it should be a good race - since you will be cammed by this time.

Oh well, I'll shoot a PM your way next time I'm up in the Owings Mills area.

boosted99camaro

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ya didnt even think of that.when ever I see a novi I always think its a 2000 I always forget about the 1000.good solid headunit too.im surprised your maxed out with 10psi with you being a 4cyl.hit it with a 50 shot.

KB99WS6

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Well on the same token...

You said the Vortech S2k's make about 300rwhp and after I am cammed I will make about 390rwhp = 90rwhp deficit for the S2k..

With ~60rwhp deficit you were able to pull really hard up top on a TA. Than factor in that I likely weigh more than the TA you raced and I will have less torque advantage since he juiced and it seems to me that I will have my hands full, right!

We will see...

Black Nugget

We'll its a strange story with the NOVI 1000. Doing some math the members of S2Ki have determined the NOVI 1000 impellers max out at 12psi. Right now I am putting 11.5psi at blower (about 10psi at motor). It was stated that a 3.18" Pulley at 9000 rpms will max it out, I am using a 3.25" pulley and revving to 9200 rpms.
I honestly have thought a few times about putting in a small shot, especially with how bad TRYMYTA pulled off the jump. However with an 11.0:1 compression and already boosting 10psi at motor - I'd rather not try my luck.

boosted99camaro

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wow I didnt relize you had that much comp.they come with 11.0.1 stock?
with 11.5 psi Id call it a day with that.sound like your ride is fun to drive good luck and have fun.

Black Nugget

yes sir, 11.0:1 compression stock. The car was meant to be an all-motor circuit track car - never meant in any shape way or form to be a 1/4 mile boosted car. another reason the guy that this thread was originally about did not want to run from a dig - the differential in the s2000 is VERY weak. with how much the housing will flex under extreme loud, its very common for things to break.

V8_DSM_V8again

If I was hired to build one of those I would

1. Get a ford IRS 8.8" aluminum diff from a tbird SC or lincoln mark and some custom CV shafts by raxles.

2. Sell the supercharger

3. Drop the compression using a .093 thick copper head gasket.

4. Get a turbo and a intercooler

5. Run E85

Black Nugget

Eh - that is one idea. Idea #2 is

- Send full motor head & block out to Joe @ Alaniz Motorsports (s2000 specialist) for his "High Boost Package" which features :

Big Bore up to 89mm. Brings displacement up to 2090cc.
Replace with high strength ductile iron sleeves.
ARIAS Forged pistons 9.5:1CR
Rings for high boost made in USA.
Rods (Cunningham rods made to our specifications)
New oil pump
Street Master head work (bowl work and chambers only)
Titanium retainers
New bronze valve guides (intake and exhaust)
Competition inner springs with locators
.5mm stainless steel oversize valves on intake, 1mm on exhaust
New Gaskets and seals (long block only)
Balance engine
Blueprint block to ALANIZ race specifications.

- Sell Comptech Supercharger

- Purchase Full-Race Turbo Kit utilizing GT35R Turbo. Starts to spool at 3k rpms, hits full boost at 4k rpms and holds it until redline.

- Purchase Diff Technics Custom Set-up which includes:
R200A rear into S2000 Honda Brackets, One pair of 1000HP C.V.'s, one Re-built Nissan rear (4.1 Viscous LSD) and one Aluminium Driveshaft including adapters to run universal joints




I have thought this idea out numerous times... final idea is just to leave the car the way she sits.
Well, few minor touches here and there - but no major power changes.

V8_DSM_V8again

I know all about GT35R's

I did'nt know about the nissan rear end kit...

I do all my own engine work.. Even balancing... Its a cake walk on an inline 4 with aftermarket rods and pistons..

The arias pistons are better than OE.. I just prefer wiesecos offset pins, tighter piston to cylinder clearances and alloys.

I bet I could beat that price too..

Black Nugget

If I am not mistaken they just recently finished testing the kit & released it to the public.

Eh - money isn't the main issue. Its getting to the point of "when is enough, enough". My car is quick and I think is pretty damn respectable for a car that is daily driving capable (personally I choose not to daily drive it for mileage purposes. put a ****-ton of miles on the car first year owning it).
I just decided its better to keep car at its current stage. If something happens internally down the road - then i'll think about building it

OdessitPashka

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This thread is very intertaining... Hope to see you in OM man. Maybe I'll run you from a roll in my car on 795 just for the hell of it. I should be putting about 315whp right now, so I'd be cool to see your 4th gear comparing to mine with you have more power

Black Nugget

Sounds good to me. Generally I pull my car down for the winter (sometime around mid to late october) then pull her back out around March. This year I had to take her down early - due to some minor issues.
When she is up & running again I'll shoot over a PM.

99_transam

Goddam you guys are killing me. I guess this is what I get for working too ******* much and not chekcing out the forums. ok here it goes. 1 my car was running like **** that night, i have valve seals leaking like a ************, 2 i had a diffrent exhuast from what I dynoed with that I dynoed about 4 days with after. los1 about 30 hp. (Flowmaster). I got a ticket for my exhuast threw it on to get out of the ticket. so the car wasnt no where as fast as it should have been. (2) I sprayed out the whole and with a 44000 yank stall on spray ,naturally i spun like a bitch. I got the jump had a good lead I was close to 100 backed off the spray. he started comming on hard so I sprayed again . when you see him get on my back bumper was about 130 you will see the camera drop, thats when I backed off.Race was over then. When he goes past me on the side, I was just holding steady and slowing down. And to Chad, You car is quick but, if you think its that fast, Ill put you up against a heads and cam ls1 No spray and I guarentee you you will probably burn your car after its over.

KB99WS6

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FINALLY, the truth comes out. What you got to say now B-Nuggy? lol.

1998silverbird

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Okay to clear this up.. I was the one in the T/A filming .. he doesnt have a bottle warmer so the pressure was only at 850-900.. Its on a WOT switch.. That S2000 hauls *** top end.. We stayed in front of him till about 130 and thats when he passed.. Like Ritz said there are cars out there that can beat LS1's!!

KB99WS6

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Ok so the driver says he let off the N20 and the passenger claims he didn't

Either way, I think its pretty clear that the TA did not make an optimal run with all the issues he stated + the fact that the bottle pressure was low etc etc.

99_transam

passenger never claimed anything about the spray, WOT switch ,hense barely let off the gas and it stops. Personally I wish I wouldnt have let off but I did ,I thought he wouldnt come up that fast. But its all good. whats a drag race over a 1/4 mile? quarter mile i had him very nicley. anything over 130mph when it takes you atleast a 1/4 mile to get there is only useful if you are running from the cops. HP sells cars, TQ moves them.

KB99WS6

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Oh ok now I see what he was saying...