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Originally Posted by 01ls1lover
Why is quick Z06 always first to nock somone for an evo kill always have an escuse.. if he had this or that or the rite tune.. well what if the ss had something besides a lid and a cutout? ya the evo dont have a chance. unless he has more mods that the ss. and what if the ss had about 20 lbs of boost? ya what now.
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the 4 MPG is at WOT, and yeah the cluch grabs hard to handle the power......
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
No because how would 5.7 litres of V8 being compared to 2.0 litre and 4 cylinders be any more equal of fair?
And I love how the ricers always conveniently forego the part about the forced induction. Sure one has 5.7 liters and one has 2.0 liters. But gee, is that where the story ends?? Umm, no. The 2.0 liter motor is a forged engine with a blower!! DUHHHH. LOL!
However once you get into the mod game than it gets a little silly to compare a modded to the hilt car vs a mildly modded car as if its a reflection that the modded to the hilt car has more potential or as if they are generally faster. At that point it just becomes a mod war. Whoever has deeper wallets in the mod war wins. Simple as that.
When people sit here and discuss car's potentials it makes no sense to compare one with far more extreme modding to another with much less extreme modding. That is a truly UNFAIR comparison of the two cars. if you want to compare a particular make & model vs another one the only way to make a fair comparison is as they came from the factory (stock for stock) or mod for mod. Otherwise you are no longer compare the cars, but their owners wallets.
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Why is this a concept that you can't ever seem to grasp 300bph?? It's really quite basic.
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Originally Posted by 01ls1lover
Why is quick Z06 always first to nock somone for an evo kill always have an escuse.. if he had this or that or the rite tune.. well what if the ss had something besides a lid and a cutout? ya the evo dont have a chance. unless he has more mods that the ss. and what if the ss had about 20 lbs of boost? ya what now.
Lol, if I was knocking him I would have said "no way he could beat the Evo with those mods" blah blah blah...I could care less if an Evo loses a race. The reason I speak up is from experience, I happen to own an Evo if you havent noticed and I have raced several SS's, WS6's, and our Z06 all the time so its not like I dont know what im talking about. Also you might want to re-read the thread, he said he won and lost so why would I be knocking him. I said nice run and that I thought he had a strong car (wow thats knocking him??)
Just to **** you off, if your best is 12.8 with those mods you'd find youself way behind my Evo with about $2500 into it
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PS- and stop comparing these stupid *** Special edition $80k to $200k foreign cars that are totally impractical to $20,000 american muscle cars that actually are practical. Just more ridiculous unfair comparisons that serve no purpose. Thats the only way foreigners and foreign car fans can do it. Because I don't care what anyone says, the USA has been kicking foreign *** as long as I can remember in the bang for the buck category when it comes to speed.
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
Lol, if I was knocking him I would have said "no way he could beat the Evo with those mods" blah blah blah...I could care less if an Evo loses a race. The reason I speak up is from experience, I happen to own an Evo if you havent noticed and I have raced several SS's, WS6's, and our Z06 all the time so its not like I dont know what im talking about. Also you migth want to re-read the thread, he said he won and lost so why would I be knocking him.
Just to **** you off, if your best is 12.8 with those mods youd find youself way behind my Evo wuth about $2500 into it![Engarde](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies3/engarde.gif)
Just to **** you off, if your best is 12.8 with those mods youd find youself way behind my Evo wuth about $2500 into it
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
Just to **** you off, if your best is 12.8 with those mods you'd find youself way behind my Evo with about $2500 into it
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And for the record I don't know about "way" behind.
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Originally Posted by 01ls1lover
You satrted with the escuses.. ( must have not been tuned rite..) ok dude. and 2500 into it huh? over how much did you pay for it? and im running on shittie as cheap $100 tires not AWD i paid $19,000 for my car and about $800 on exhuast. Let me go spend about 500 on a stall get some slicks then talk some ****.Point is buck for buck your car isnt **** for what you payed. Now i dont wanna start a huge argument online.. you like your car ya its fast i give it credit. But bang for the buck.. it just isnt worth it to me.
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My car with a $500 tbe, $80 mbc, $200 tune, and 2 gallons of good gas would have smoked your car.
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Ps: Stock for stock, an evo will out handle, out brake, and will match the straight line performance of your car.
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They are really too different to compare and both have good points.
I like the fbodies better because in my opinion they look better, sound better, have heritage in the US, t-tops, half the price(fits my budget), wanted a 2 door, I know more about them, me and friends drooled over them in highschool, and I like cars that can make good n/a power.
I like the fbodies better because in my opinion they look better, sound better, have heritage in the US, t-tops, half the price(fits my budget), wanted a 2 door, I know more about them, me and friends drooled over them in highschool, and I like cars that can make good n/a power.
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Originally Posted by UTEvo8
Ps: Stock for stock, an evo will out handle, out brake, and will match the straight line performance of your car.
Regardless of this, the fbody was at the end of it's line (10 yrs. old--5yrs with the ls1) in '02 and if GM would have kept making it, the 1/4, handling and braking would have surely improved. I'm not saying it would have topped the Evo in handling, but it would've been much closer.
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Originally Posted by UTEvo8
Why do you keep bringing up cost? Your car is at the least 3 years old, and is more than likely 5 or more. He got a new car for more that what your used car cost, big deal. How much was your car when it was new?
Does it make you mad that he could sell his car and buy one like yours and make it alot faster with the left over money? Thats like saying you can't justify spending the money on a new c6 z06 when you can mod a c5 z06 to match or better the performance.
My car with a $500 tbe, $80 mbc, $200 tune, and 2 gallons of good gas would have smoked your car.
But then again, a stock fbody with a healthy shot of nitrous could whoop me. We all like to enjoy our toys our toys in different ways
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Ps: Stock for stock, an evo will out handle, out brake, and will match the straight line performance of your car.
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My car with a $500 tbe, $80 mbc, $200 tune, and 2 gallons of good gas would have smoked your car.
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Ps: Stock for stock, an evo will out handle, out brake, and will match the straight line performance of your car.
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Lol, look...I made that comment to instigate
Im just saying, "about the thread" it was a good race for both cars. Im not making excuses, just from what I know an Evo with full exhaust, cams and a tune will be faster than a slightly modded Z28 thats it.
Ive never ran my Evo at the track, but know a guy with the same mods running 11.8, and I have beat friends that run low 12's all day long.
Anyways... I agree no point in arguing this...As mentioned good runs, byt the original poster.
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Ive never ran my Evo at the track, but know a guy with the same mods running 11.8, and I have beat friends that run low 12's all day long.
Anyways... I agree no point in arguing this...As mentioned good runs, byt the original poster.
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Originally Posted by KB99WS6
As far as the GT35R, I can't imagine the rest of the Evo holding up that well to that kind of power. I'd imagine when all is said and done it's a lot of money to get the car properly setup
I thought the same thing, however there are numerous guys running 550awhp+ on pump gas with alcohol or meth injection on the stock motor (minus cams of course!). One guy EVODAVE who does custom headlights, tail-lights has been running that setup for over a year now on the stock block!
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Originally Posted by UTEvo8
Ps: Stock for stock, an evo will out handle, out brake, and will match the straight line performance of your car.
Stock for stock lets not forget the Evo's stock version is the Plain Regular Lancer. Evo = modified Lancer... so how can you compaire it with an unmodified car?
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Originally Posted by Heatmaker
Stock for stock lets not forget the Evo's stock version is the Plain Regular Lancer. Evo = modified Lancer... so how can you compaire it with an unmodified car?