got challanged by a 450hp 1st gen GSX
#101
Originally Posted by NIevo
Originally Posted by Sparetire
A 440WHP Evo or DSM would slaughter a bolt on SS unless the SS was spraying. Even then it would be close from a dig. Chances are the guy did not have 440 or he was running low boost..
A 450-500whp Evo or GSX is a 10scecond car with a good driver. 440whp would get you low 11's easy. Also Evo's don't pull very hard over 120-130mph unless you have a much bigger turbo.
CamaroSS621-If your friend really does have a 480AWHP Evo then there is noway you killed him unless he really can't drive or your running 9's.
Im not trying to bash anyone and I'll be the first to admit that from a roll Evo's and GSX's aren't that fast unless they have big turbo's but from a dig if they have someone that knows how to drive behind the wheel they are very fast. The 12.3 I ran in mine was with about $1500 in mods on 92oct.
A 440WHP Evo or DSM would slaughter a bolt on SS unless the SS was spraying. Even then it would be close from a dig. Chances are the guy did not have 440 or he was running low boost..
A 450-500whp Evo or GSX is a 10scecond car with a good driver. 440whp would get you low 11's easy. Also Evo's don't pull very hard over 120-130mph unless you have a much bigger turbo.
CamaroSS621-If your friend really does have a 480AWHP Evo then there is noway you killed him unless he really can't drive or your running 9's.
Im not trying to bash anyone and I'll be the first to admit that from a roll Evo's and GSX's aren't that fast unless they have big turbo's but from a dig if they have someone that knows how to drive behind the wheel they are very fast. The 12.3 I ran in mine was with about $1500 in mods on 92oct.
I take it back. Im not done with this worthless waste of bandwidth. I said the first paragraph guy. Not the others. And now people quote it like I said it. Fix it. 3 posts and your already misquoting. Impressive. Again. FIX IT.
I said that a 440WHP DSM will murder a bolt-ons SS. I did not say it would run 10s. Big difference.
This POS should be locked. You people cant even **** up a thread properly.
#102
Originally Posted by Sparetire
Heatmaker:"anyone to say something that stupid... doesn't own a car. especially not one with 400hp which is what a Bolt on SS would be making."
So your saying a bolt on SS makes 400WHP. I didnt know a cam was now a bolt on. Yeah, I needed to remove a freinds radiator to help him put on his lid on too. And it will beat a 450WHP car that has better traction, less weight, and likely more aggresive gearing. Wow.
I tell you what, take a look at what other F-Body lovers are saying in this thread and figure out just how much smarter you are than all of us.
Im done wasting time on you and this thread.
So your saying a bolt on SS makes 400WHP. I didnt know a cam was now a bolt on. Yeah, I needed to remove a freinds radiator to help him put on his lid on too. And it will beat a 450WHP car that has better traction, less weight, and likely more aggresive gearing. Wow.
I tell you what, take a look at what other F-Body lovers are saying in this thread and figure out just how much smarter you are than all of us.
Im done wasting time on you and this thread.
I'm just simple here to dispel the myth that stock Evo, DSM + boost controller = 10's.
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just FYI I dont have a bold on SS. I dyno 506hp at the wheels all motor. no spray no F/I no nothing. And a 6 speed My car is in the body shop having some things done and prostars are on the way. Dont think this kid will wanna run with them on lol
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Looks like we have a new crop of babblers.
Why would anyone doubt the capability of a 408cid LS1 with full bolt ons
on a tire? What site am I on again? Do you guys even know
what a car like that can do? 500rwhp N/A is no joke.
Why would anyone doubt the capability of a 408cid LS1 with full bolt ons
on a tire? What site am I on again? Do you guys even know
what a car like that can do? 500rwhp N/A is no joke.
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Originally Posted by Heatmaker
I won't even bother to reply with you... too simple.
I'm just simple here to dispel the myth that stock Evo, DSM + boost controller = 10's.
I'm just simple here to dispel the myth that stock Evo, DSM + boost controller = 10's.
A bolt-ons only LS1 does not make 400whp. I've seen it claimed. I've never seen it dynoed. With a cam, sure. A cam is not a bolt-on. With spray, almost imevitably. We are not talking about spray. So maybe someday it'll happen (consistently), but not right now. Not when I wrote that either.
You're Wrong.
And even if a magical 400WHP SS with nothing but bolt-ons was racing a 440WHP car with less weight, aggresive gearing and AWD launching, its going to lose. Dig or roll.
You're Wrong.
Are you noticing a theme yet in this and half of the last dozen posts?
WTF said anything about a DSM running 10s with nothing but an MBC? The only people who think that are 17 year old idiots who dumb up the DSM boards online asking about what BOV to get when they are running 15 PSI. Oh yeah, that was you.
You really do pick good screen names though. You've made plenty of heat in this thread. Not a lot of light. But plenty of heat.
#108
Originally Posted by unit213
Looks like we have a new crop of babblers.
Why would anyone doubt the capability of a 408cid LS1 with full bolt ons
on a tire? What site am I on again? Do you guys even know
what a car like that can do? 500rwhp N/A is no joke.
Why would anyone doubt the capability of a 408cid LS1 with full bolt ons
on a tire? What site am I on again? Do you guys even know
what a car like that can do? 500rwhp N/A is no joke.
Nobody doubts 500WHP. It was not about 500WHP 408s. It was originally a simple comment that a bolt-on only stock LS1 SS will not beat a 440WHP DSM. But after about 3 misquotes and a lot of heat, here we are. Why is this not closed yet?
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The original post being refered to. #75
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Originally Posted by CamaroSS621
"a little while ago, my buddy ran his bolt on SS vs. 440hp GSR and got him from a 30roll but it was even from a 50roll. That thing was nasty for a 4 banger. "
Sparetire:
"A 440WHP Evo or DSM would slaughter a bolt on SS unless the SS was spraying. Even then it would be close from a dig. Chances are the guy did not have 440 or he was running low boost."
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamaroSS621
"a little while ago, my buddy ran his bolt on SS vs. 440hp GSR and got him from a 30roll but it was even from a 50roll. That thing was nasty for a 4 banger. "
Sparetire:
"A 440WHP Evo or DSM would slaughter a bolt on SS unless the SS was spraying. Even then it would be close from a dig. Chances are the guy did not have 440 or he was running low boost."
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Originally Posted by unit213
I didn't realize that you were an admin. Apparently I work for you.
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Originally Posted by CamaroSS621
just as a personal question. What did you pay for your cobra?
was almost $39K if I recall correctly. Bought it brand new.
Originally Posted by CamaroSS621
Welds do not look right
#116
Originally Posted by Sparetire
Aside from the fact that your post is a contradiction of itself, yeah, thats why I don't do some things. They are just too simple.
A bolt-ons only LS1 does not make 400whp. I've seen it claimed. I've never seen it dynoed. With a cam, sure. A cam is not a bolt-on. With spray, almost imevitably. We are not talking about spray. So maybe someday it'll happen (consistently), but not right now. Not when I wrote that either.
You're Wrong.
And even if a magical 400WHP SS with nothing but bolt-ons was racing a 440WHP car with less weight, aggresive gearing and AWD launching, its going to lose. Dig or roll.
You're Wrong.
Are you noticing a theme yet in this and half of the last dozen posts?
WTF said anything about a DSM running 10s with nothing but an MBC? The only people who think that are 17 year old idiots who dumb up the DSM boards online asking about what BOV to get when they are running 15 PSI. Oh yeah, that was you.
You really do pick good screen names though. You've made plenty of heat in this thread. Not a lot of light. But plenty of heat.
A bolt-ons only LS1 does not make 400whp. I've seen it claimed. I've never seen it dynoed. With a cam, sure. A cam is not a bolt-on. With spray, almost imevitably. We are not talking about spray. So maybe someday it'll happen (consistently), but not right now. Not when I wrote that either.
You're Wrong.
And even if a magical 400WHP SS with nothing but bolt-ons was racing a 440WHP car with less weight, aggresive gearing and AWD launching, its going to lose. Dig or roll.
You're Wrong.
Are you noticing a theme yet in this and half of the last dozen posts?
WTF said anything about a DSM running 10s with nothing but an MBC? The only people who think that are 17 year old idiots who dumb up the DSM boards online asking about what BOV to get when they are running 15 PSI. Oh yeah, that was you.
You really do pick good screen names though. You've made plenty of heat in this thread. Not a lot of light. But plenty of heat.
well I'm glad you under stand. It seems to be of lately that people assume they can buy a DSM for 1200 bucks or get a loan and drive an Evo off the lot, and add some minor mods, and all of a sudden think thuer the new 10sec 1/4 miles champions... I like you way of thinking... I'll leave you alone.
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Originally Posted by unit213
I bought it when they were really hot so I payed well over MSRP. It
was almost $39K if I recall correctly. Bought it brand new.
What welds?
was almost $39K if I recall correctly. Bought it brand new.
What welds?
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Originally Posted by Heatmaker
just the kind of response I'd expect from a guy with an "SS" shift **** listed as a mod.
second...that is your response to me saying your a ricer. You made up a whole bunch of excuses as to why you lost. Mean while, if you won and the guy used the same excuses as you did..you'd call him a ricer because of the type of car he has. How do you know what type of condition his car was in?
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Originally Posted by BrandonDrecksage
first...did I say those are my mods? I just have things listed..you took them as mods.
These aren't my mods, but I'm going to put them in my sig:
398ci
106mm tubo
Powerglide
Neal Chance stall converter
31" 10.5W's
6.98 @ 209mph