105 is only a low trap speed for a 6-speed fbody with a lid/catback. I was well in the 12s before i cracked 105 for awhile in my automatic. did 103 stock.

 

Their in Cali with elevation. I'm still on stock tires and I've been running high twelves with absolutely zero traction.

 

Them there's some good footwork.

 

Your telling me!

 

i bet you won't trap that high at fontana speedway with those mods..
104mph tops, 105mph if you have one of the "internet freak" ones
if i can trap at 108mph here, i wonder what would i do in a 100ft elevation track with 50F temp

btw, did i tell you my engine had 3200 miles this past sunday when i did the run???

 

I hope I run into one of your cars when I head up to chi town next weekend. You spew the most retarded crap on this website.

 

i know, a gtp running 13.7-13.9 , how bad a$$, next time i see one in my rear mirror, i would let it pass, i don't want to be blowned away if the guy was racing me.....

 

Wow, you are so awesome. I got a good idea, get someone with a video camera when you come up here, and run me with your GTO. I'll spare ya the loss to another LS1 and race you in my GTP.

Now you do have headers, so that is going to give you more power than the stock ones I've raced, but if you win it won't be by much, and then you can realize the reality that your car is fast, but its not THAT fast.

 

Wow, your GTO would beat my daily driver. You wouldn't stand a chance against my Ws6, and you have more horsepower than me.

All I have is a lid,filter, Tuner, and a z06 cam.

You are making it seem like I think my GTP is the fastest car in the world. Its not. Neither is my trans am. There is always a car faster somewhere. My point was IN STOCK FORM, the GTO's are not all that quick. THEY HAVE LOTS OF POTENTIAL. Start reading my posts, and stop taking them as insults. GM has more restriction on your pcms then even the F-body's which would explain poorer performance and also the few hundred pounds of weight.

 

with those mods i wouldn't stand a chance???
Denom on this forum has the same mods as you,in fact, a couple of more mods than you, and he's trapping within maybe 1mph higher than my car by the end of 1/4 mile,and at the same track. i'm so scared...

 

let me save you the search,

Denom mods:
2001 Trans Am WS6, M6
LS6 Cam, Thunderracing Catback Exhaust, Whisper Lid, Slp Underdrive Pulleys, PHB, and LCA's.
351whp/341rwtq, tuned by RacePrep

R/T ---- .647
60' ---- 2.103
330' ---- 5.728
1/8 ------8.624 @ 85.14 mph
1000' ---- 11.101
1/4 ---- 13.173 @ 109.02 mph


myself, mods in my sig, 3200 miles by the time i did the runs, this past sunday btw...

R/T ---- .263
60' ---- 2.095
330' ---- 5.624
1/8 ------8.529 @ 85.89 mph
1000' ---- 10.995
1/4 ---- 13.079 @ 108.35 mph

again, why would i have to be scared???

 

exactly what would be all that quick then??? an F-body? I seem to remember the quickest stock LS1 f-body running a 12.80 and the quickest stock LS2 GTO running 12.90....if you're logic is that a 12 second capable car is "not all that quick" then neither is your car....


Yes, there's potential left in the stock tune...that doesn't mean the car runs badly without a re-tune. I hung door to door with a C5 (which is a couple hundred pounds lighter than an F-body) two nights ago from 15-120 (2 runs), and I'm NOT that good a driver....

I'm not saying you're trying to insult us but as an f-bdoy owner, your posts convey a blatant feeling of natural superiority over an LS2 GTO stock to stock (as if we have to come from behind or something) and we're just trying to tell you it's not really there....

 

If stock FBodies are trapping 105-106.

Then it is even a drivers race with an 04 GTO. I am trapping 105 and hitting 13.36 now with only a tune & Ported & Polished TB and I can't get it to hook for crap.

By the way it is an A4.

 

I think the F-badies that did 12.8's in GMHighTechPerformace were massaged.

It was a GM press car with almost 10K on it.

No of the rest of them seem to do this time without Dr's.

 

Bro, your car is fast. You are a very good driver. I can see that in your times. However, Considering my car comes with 50 less horsepower than you running similar times, doesn't that strike you? That is my point man.

I wanted to buy an 05 GTO and sell my Ws6 and GTP just to only have one car. Unfortunetly, I am too close with my Ws6 and don't want to see it part right now.

I'm a very big GM enthusiast. I think they make great motors. I think any of the LSX motors are just amazing.

My point that I was making was the Ls2 comes with 405hp.

The ls1 comes with 350hp.

Ls1's stock usually run a lil better stock than a stock ls2. Sure some will pull the same times, but it does not happen all that often.

My car with a lid and filter ran a 13.2 @ 106 A4 on a 2.1 60ft

After cam and tuner 12.9 @ 109.25 with a 2.155 60ft. Obviously I can't grab traction. I'm still running on the stock F1's with just about no tread left.

My car has potential, and I just ordered Subframes and Nitto's so with a 1.8 60ft I plan on hitting with those mods, my car as is could hit a 12.5-12.6 as is considering the MPH i'm crossing the line with and previous 60ft times.

I'm sorry if I'm coming across to seem superior. I'm not. From my experiences at the track and street I've seen some pretty poor driven GTO's considering the times i've seen at the strip, and the ones that lost to me on the road.

All in all, mod the **** outta the cars and start having some kills to post in this section!

 

^^Creature comforts, build quality, handling, solid feel are all qualities of the GTO and not of F-Bodies. Your stock times are way off mine and I drive it like a grandma off the line to keep from smoking them a 1/8 mile.

DR's are in my future.

 

You shoulda seen me at the track, half throttle still spinning from a 10mph roll.

Anyways, GTO is a lil more luxury. It has a nice, new, redesigned PONTIAC interior which was way over due. Handling, I'd be willing to put up the Ws6 suspension has to be up to par or damn close to it. I have yet to drive a GTO so I can't tell you for sure. And the build quality, the F-body is solid, but yeah its hit or miss. Some people having T-Top noises, rattles, etc.

You made some good points, and I'll admit to them. Yet you still seem to have an issue with me

 

The bottomline is that your car prior to the cam upgrade is .16 & 1 mph faster then a 3,926lb (with me in it) 2004 GTO - A4. I also ran on street tires - crappy OEM's @ 30psi (wasn't worth dropping the pressure). I had a 2.057 & 2.183 60ft for the 2 runs - so lot of room still for me to improve too.

Not knocking the FBodies or you - I like the cars - just the bs that the GTO's are slow. It just took everyone a little while to figure out how to launch the cars with the IRS - now the times are coming down.

 

it doesn't strike me considering you have the z06 cam plus another couple of mods. , and i can assure you, i'm not that good launching this car yet, i've been driving her for a little bit more than a month now, i ran those times on nitto 245 555r. i can't launch as i should to run faster et's, i'm not even doing powershifts...
i'm not bashing you car or any other fbody for that matter,but i've been reading some of the posts on this section and lot of you guys doesn't seem to know how good are we running.
torque is as flat as th one in the lt1's, and redline comes a bit later at 6500rpm

here is my dyno with 1300 miles on the clock, x pipe and mufflers only,we're only 300lbs heavier, but definetely gearing and powerband are keeping this car moving faster than what a lot of people think.



I'll do LT headers and cam pretty soon, as soon as HPTuners can release a calibration for the 06 gto pcm

 

BlueGoat06 - once you get the A/F set up - that car is going to be an animal