With tires I could see myself with a 12.8-13.0 It would all be on my 60' times though. When I run high 12 second LS1 cars I get pulled a car or so up top.

 

alot of your mods like the msd wires, 160 stat, smooth bellow etc.. arent guna add alot of hp.. im asuming its a fox body mustang

 

160 stat w/o a chip is very bad for A/F ratios.

 

I know but i was just listing everything i had.

but stanger, are you talking about me. whats wrong with running a 160 without a chip. ive never heard that before. what kinda of chip are you talking about? but you are putting down 280 aswell and you are nowhere near 12 secs.? so is he way off by saying he could possibly run low 12's with traction?

 

stranger weighs more than what the kid is saying that he weighs. your also making less power than you think. 160 t stat could be bad because the car doesn't know when its up to running temp..and when your car is cold it runs more rich..which gives you less power.

 

Maybe this guy is just saying he has 280rwhp. I've never seen a 331 dyno that low before. That way if he looses he could have an excuse "I only have xxxrwhp." But I agree 2600lbs would mean he would have to have some weight reduction(tubular front end, spare tire, jack, a/c, etc.) But foxbodys don't need alot of hp to run good #'s due to they are so light. Traction is key. For comparison sake, I'm at 3195 w/ me. 304rwhp = 12.04. Traction is a wonderful thing. -Mark

 

What he said. THe car never goes into open loop. It never allows the 02's to lean it out as I understand because its always "cold" With a chip, your ECU UNDERSTANDS that its all gravy at 160 and goes into open loop. As far as hurting performance, at least on my car, WOT is closed loop, so I dont see that affecting anything, but just driving around you will be running a tad rich.

 

1st let me say nice kill

2nd as a comaprison I dynoed 340 RWHP and 330 RWTQ with Mac mid lengths and Magnaflow exhaust with a SLP Air lid and a tune. So, 360 RWHP with your setup and a tune could net 360 RWHP with the right conditions IMO.

3rd I doubt his Stang is 2600 lbs, that would take some doing and it would be pretty gutted.

 

a 2600# stang is basically NOTHING. I saw one at the strip weighing about that. All it had was 1 fiberglass seat. Thats it. NOTHING ELSE IN THE CAR but the necessary instruments.

 

Exactly.


So you would know if the guy in the Stang was 'BS'ing about the weight or not since you saw his car. If it had all the seats and did not appear stripped then it wasn't IMO.

 

"Chip" in a LS1? You mean a tune?

 

Seems like bullshit to me, what is a 234/234 cam what's the lift on it? But the numbers seem pretty low for a 331 and the weight seems low for full interior and such. I would hope he doesn't have stock E7's on that thing but hey you know i've talked to many stangers that are plain stupid and don't know how to build a motor correctly. For comparison N/A i pulled a 13.3@108mph with a 2.2 60' i would consider that no traction, this was before my blower i have a 306 with bolt ons H/C/I and they aren't stock e7 heads either, my cam is also 222/230 512/512. He's either lying or he has one hell of a poor performing 331 and you'll whoop his *** easily.

 

a buddy of mine has a 1991 mustang 5.0 auto, has 3.73 gears, k&n, flowmaster exhaust, no cats, and a vortech V-1 SC at 5 psi... just got some new perrelis out back, (275/40 17s)... its also a convertable.... its about 3200lbs with him in it. Anyways he figures he is putting down around 270-300 rwhp. took it to the track about 5 nights ago.... ran a best or 15.223. averaged about 15.5s. needless to say he was disappointed. he was hoping for a sub 13 run. I figured he would be a little faster than 15.2 though. I have noticed alot of mustang owners are way to "optomistic" about there cars.

 

Chip...tune...they accomplish the same thing. 15.2 is like stck 5-spped et. he was 35-600 w/o him in the car with an aod vert. they run high 15/low 16 stock.

 

It should weigh alot more then 3200lbs vert autos are the heaviest. And yes mustang owners are optomistic cause most add up hp like a ricer, intake 30, exhaust 20, headers 20 and that's not how it works. I would expect that car to run in the 13's somewhere. A tune would help him too you just can't slap on a SC on a stock mustang and expect it to perform 100%. What was his MPH on those runs and the 60' that will tell the story of if it was the driver that sucked or the car. If he's running 15's with even a small charger there is problems like stanger said they run 15's stock lol

 

he could be close to 360rwhp, look at my sig, and I have mids and cats still on the car when it dynoed those numbers. I do need to update my sig since I got the cam and now it is tuned. As far as the weight in your friends stang, I doubt it is that light.... he would have to have it fully stripped out ie; no back seats, pass. seat, carpet, a/c, emmision crap, lightweight suspension etc.....

 

umm, our track sucks, they dont post up 60 ft times or trap speeds, but they was range from 100-108. he didnt slap the SC on, he bought it off a guy who had done all the mods. He just wanted to get idea of what it is running right now. He wants to H/C, upgrade the pulley and a few other bolt ons. It is probably heavyer than what i posted, i was just ballparking it. I told him to start from the back and work to the front... needs to ditch that flowmaster, and get some headers first,

 

well, he said that his car was full weight and only weighed 2800lbs. he said he weighed less than a neon. and the ac was there, and all he seats and stuff were there. that just seems way low. and im pretty sure he just has the stock heads, wether that be the e7's or whatever?

 

ok mr. mustang guy, since because you have a fast car you know everything

360rwhp for a stock internal manual ls1 is all day bitch. the ls1 will win

 

examples examples examples...I can show you a BUNCH of cars with his mods...here it goes, and remember, the key word is REALISTIC, not OPTIMISTIC and out of the ordinary...




Now check out the following if you think I am lying ..
Dynamometer Results & Comparisons
and
http://ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7290


But DON'T TAKE MY WORD ON WHAT THE NORMAL IS!!!!



Surprisingly I didn't find many of your examples.