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Old 05-11-2006 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CTSVSL65AMG
GTO's are probably the slowest LS2 powered vehicle out there. Look at the stat sheet and they should be faster than what they are.

I have yet to see a stock LS2 GTO run under 13.4.

I handle them easy in the V, so it should be a drivers race with an WS6. Just get er dun!
Wrong. Both the Trailblazer SS and SSR have the LS2 and they're definitely not faster than the GOAT. There have been plenty of LS2 GTO's running under 13.4. There have been a few who have hit high 12's with good tracton off the line. It all depends on elevation, track prep, weather, traction, driver, etc... Also the CTS-V and LS2 GTO is a driver's race stock for stock period.
Old 05-11-2006 | 03:26 PM
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Old 05-11-2006 | 03:45 PM
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i hung toe to toe with a 6.0 GTO. all i have is free ramair and cutout. im also a vert. he could not pull on me in 1st 2nd or 3rd gear.

oh and a TB ss has hit 13.4 stock @102 mph
Old 05-13-2006 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GXPPOWER
i hung toe to toe with a 6.0 GTO. all i have is free ramair and cutout. im also a vert. he could not pull on me in 1st 2nd or 3rd gear.

oh and a TB ss has hit 13.4 stock @102 mph
Yeah but that TB SS isn't beating a "well driven" LS2 GTO. 13.4 would be a "average" run for a LS2 GTO. There's LS1 GTO's with 50 less hp hitting 13.4 stock.
Old 05-13-2006 | 10:15 AM
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Even though i don't like the GTO's i will have to say that is wrong the LS2's not running under 13.4

http://www.ezarchive.com/89tang/Albu...rackTA2006.mpg

2nd race me agasint an 05 or 06 GTO i believe it's an 06, he had nittos and was stock as far as i know.
Old 05-13-2006 | 02:36 PM
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it's more difficult to perform a clean launch out of a gto because of its irs suspension. wheel hop can be really bad on this cars and this particular condition is a real et and trap killer, inexperienced drivers are not ready to deal with this situation and more likely they would get off the gas giving you an easy win. you have more chances of winning the race if you go from a dig simply because you know your car.

an LS2 gto has more HP/TQ across the entire powerband and its geared better, this doesn't guarantee a race if the person behind the wheel doesn't know how to get the most out of his/her combo. as with any other car, you just need to get used to the way the car reacts under hard launches, it takes more time for some people, but it's not really hard to perform with some practice.

also, it's funny to read we are the slowest powered ls2 cars. even funnier to read this coming from somebody who has a car with the weakest rear end in the gm performance lineup (Cadillac CTS-V)
again,the gto is heavier than an ls1 powered fbody, yes, but it does have more power , enough power to overcome the weight issue.
Old 05-13-2006 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueGoat06
it's more difficult to perform a clean launch out of a gto because of its irs suspension. wheel hop can be really bad on this cars and this particular condition is a real et and trap killer, inexperienced drivers are not ready to deal with this situation and more likely they would get off the gas giving you an easy win. you have more chances of winning the race if you go from a dig simply because you know your car.

an LS2 gto has more HP/TQ across the entire powerband and its geared better, this doesn't guarantee a race if the person behind the wheel doesn't know how to get the most out of his/her combo. as with any other car, you just need to get used to the way the car reacts under hard launches, it takes more time for some people, but it's not really hard to perform with some practice.

also, it's funny to read we are the slowest powered ls2 cars. even funnier to read this coming from somebody who has a car with the weakest rear end in the gm performance lineup (Cadillac CTS-V)
again,the gto is heavier than an ls1 powered fbody, yes, but it does have more power , enough power to overcome the weight issue.

I disagree, most LS2 GTOs put down 330-350 stock and weigh 3800 pounds. Most 01-02 f bodies put down 310-330 stock and weigh about 3400-3500 pounds. That equals out to be about a tie. Stock for stock is a straight up drivers race.
Old 05-13-2006 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by necrocannibal
I disagree, most LS2 GTOs put down 330-350 stock and weigh 3800 pounds. Most 01-02 f bodies put down 310-330 stock and weigh about 3400-3500 pounds. That equals out to be about a tie. Stock for stock is a straight up drivers race.
in a way yes, an fbody is easier to launch, and i know that's a fact, so it can be called a driver race.

you're also talking about peak numbers, i'm talking about entire and useable powerband. i've yet to have troubles with ls1 fbodies with similar mods. and when i said similar mods i'm talking about ls1 fbodies with intake lid, ls6 maf, o/r y pipe, catback, pullies, tune. that doesn't mean of course that every gto out there would run the same or that every fbody would run the same.
Old 05-14-2006 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by necrocannibal
I disagree, most LS2 GTOs put down 330-350 stock and weigh 3800 pounds. Most 01-02 f bodies put down 310-330 stock and weigh about 3400-3500 pounds. That equals out to be about a tie. Stock for stock is a straight up drivers race.
It is a driver's race but the '05/06 GTO is the faster car if driven to it's potential especially from a roll. Also the '05/06 GTO M6 dyno's in the 350 rwhp range and the A4 are the ones that dyno around 330-340 rwhp.
Old 05-14-2006 | 03:02 PM
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Who

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This argument gets so old. Your time would be better used not repeating thingfs that have been said so many times before.

Dan
Old 05-14-2006 | 03:05 PM
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BTW both cars are fast...to me and most people anyway.

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Old 05-16-2006 | 01:44 AM
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I eat CTS-V's for breakfast......... just wanted to add my 2 cents.




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