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^ I'm with you, man, but surely we can recognize the kind of lap times the C5R team is pulling on those tracks, attributed to both car and driver. Speaking about modified cars of course, these guys are outdriving some high profile cars/drivers.
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Originally Posted by rastarajah
Wow. that is all i have to say about this. please educate yourself.
don't even get into the 24 hour Le Mans. 787B. need i say more?
first year with that, it won and was banned from the circuit.
now, that was Mazda, remember?
anything can be faster than anything with the right amount of money. no arguement there.
to everyone, i'm sorry to have to keep this thread going.
don't even get into the 24 hour Le Mans. 787B. need i say more?
first year with that, it won and was banned from the circuit.
now, that was Mazda, remember?
anything can be faster than anything with the right amount of money. no arguement there.
to everyone, i'm sorry to have to keep this thread going.
Originally Posted by 2 FASST SS
Isn't the 787B a prototype? Come to think of it.... IT IS!!! Not a production car. Does not count... 
i want it 1 passanger, 800+rwhp, aerodynamic like a ****, not even over 2000lbs...
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Originally Posted by rastarajah
are le mans cars in production? if so, where can i buy one?
i want it 1 passanger, 800+rwhp, aerodynamic like a ****, not even over 2000lbs...
i want it 1 passanger, 800+rwhp, aerodynamic like a ****, not even over 2000lbs...
cmon man, don't start that. The c6's are in production, the Porsches GT3's are in production, the viper is in production, need I say more? We aren't arguing about cars that we ONLY see on the track.
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Originally Posted by Gloveperson
The STi and the EVO are out of the F-bodies league on a track. Compare them to Corvettes instead.
Originally Posted by 2 FASST SS
cmon man, don't start that. The c6's are in production, the Porsches GT3's are in production, the viper is in production, need I say more? We aren't arguing about cars that we ONLY see on the track.
should have been more clear in your original post, not just posting it after i found a car from Mazda that will own all those you mentioned.
le mans cars are built from the ground up, so why even start heading that direction??
give me a budget of $400K and i will make a pinto run in the le mans
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Originally Posted by 2 FASST SS
ah, 700+ HP under 2000lbs!!! 
http://rotarynews.com/?q=node/view/463
They ran the cars at near redline for almost 24 hours. And the rotary isnt reliable?
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Originally Posted by rastarajah
are le mans cars in production? if so, where can i buy one?
i want it 1 passanger, 800+rwhp, aerodynamic like a ****, not even over 2000lbs...
i want it 1 passanger, 800+rwhp, aerodynamic like a ****, not even over 2000lbs...
Now on the flip side, there is alot of trash talking of two very impressive motors here.
GM has amazed everyone with what it has done with an "outdated" technology. The standard is that pushrod engines are not as good as OHC (single or dual), multivalve engines for power to size ratio. Though the LS series is substantially larger than most commonly found car engines, it makes enough power across a large band to hold against equally sized "modern motors". Plus it is a cheaper tech so it keeps the price down (slightly).
The Wankel rotorary is also an impressive motor. Such a small size creating the power it makes, that is impressive. The size also alows you more flexability in motor location and orientation. The drawback of the rotorary is that it is such a rare technology that you have fewer people developing into it and buying it. Less money equals slower leaps in advancements.
Both cars are equally impressive in their intended environments, and are quite capable in other environments. The real bonus is seeing two cars companies that show the world different paths to great sports cars.
(Which reminds me of air-cooled Porsches in a liquid-cooled world, what a beautiful sound those were.)
Peace...really.
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Originally Posted by RaDjedefra
Quick note: McLaren F1 LM, purchase price was around $1.5 million and it was the road going version of the same car that went 1,2,3 at Le Mans. Oh, and by road going I mean they traded progressive spring for the racing linear springs, you got the a/c and stereo back, and they put carpet in the interior. The Le Mans version didn't even carry a sequential gearbox, if I remember correctly.
Now on the flip side, there is alot of trash talking of two very impressive motors here.
GM has amazed everyone with what it has done with an "outdated" technology. The standard is that pushrod engines are not as good as OHC (single or dual), multivalve engines for power to size ratio. Though the LS series is substantially larger than most commonly found car engines, it makes enough power across a large band to hold against equally sized "modern motors". Plus it is a cheaper tech so it keeps the price down (slightly).
The Wankel rotorary is also an impressive motor. Such a small size creating the power it makes, that is impressive. The size also alows you more flexability in motor location and orientation. The drawback of the rotorary is that it is such a rare technology that you have fewer people developing into it and buying it. Less money equals slower leaps in advancements.
Both cars are equally impressive in their intended environments, and are quite capable in other environments. The real bonus is seeing two cars companies that show the world different paths to great sports cars.
(Which reminds me of air-cooled Porsches in a liquid-cooled world, what a beautiful sound those were.)
Peace...really.
Now on the flip side, there is alot of trash talking of two very impressive motors here.
GM has amazed everyone with what it has done with an "outdated" technology. The standard is that pushrod engines are not as good as OHC (single or dual), multivalve engines for power to size ratio. Though the LS series is substantially larger than most commonly found car engines, it makes enough power across a large band to hold against equally sized "modern motors". Plus it is a cheaper tech so it keeps the price down (slightly).
The Wankel rotorary is also an impressive motor. Such a small size creating the power it makes, that is impressive. The size also alows you more flexability in motor location and orientation. The drawback of the rotorary is that it is such a rare technology that you have fewer people developing into it and buying it. Less money equals slower leaps in advancements.
Both cars are equally impressive in their intended environments, and are quite capable in other environments. The real bonus is seeing two cars companies that show the world different paths to great sports cars.
(Which reminds me of air-cooled Porsches in a liquid-cooled world, what a beautiful sound those were.)
Peace...really.
Originally Posted by RaDjedefra
Quick note: McLaren F1 LM, purchase price was around $1.5 million and it was the road going version of the same car that went 1,2,3 at Le Mans. Oh, and by road going I mean they traded progressive spring for the racing linear springs, you got the a/c and stereo back, and they put carpet in the interior. The Le Mans version didn't even carry a sequential gearbox, if I remember correctly.
Now on the flip side, there is alot of trash talking of two very impressive motors here.
GM has amazed everyone with what it has done with an "outdated" technology. The standard is that pushrod engines are not as good as OHC (single or dual), multivalve engines for power to size ratio. Though the LS series is substantially larger than most commonly found car engines, it makes enough power across a large band to hold against equally sized "modern motors". Plus it is a cheaper tech so it keeps the price down (slightly).
The Wankel rotorary is also an impressive motor. Such a small size creating the power it makes, that is impressive. The size also alows you more flexability in motor location and orientation. The drawback of the rotorary is that it is such a rare technology that you have fewer people developing into it and buying it. Less money equals slower leaps in advancements.
Both cars are equally impressive in their intended environments, and are quite capable in other environments. The real bonus is seeing two cars companies that show the world different paths to great sports cars.
(Which reminds me of air-cooled Porsches in a liquid-cooled world, what a beautiful sound those were.)
Peace...really.
Now on the flip side, there is alot of trash talking of two very impressive motors here.
GM has amazed everyone with what it has done with an "outdated" technology. The standard is that pushrod engines are not as good as OHC (single or dual), multivalve engines for power to size ratio. Though the LS series is substantially larger than most commonly found car engines, it makes enough power across a large band to hold against equally sized "modern motors". Plus it is a cheaper tech so it keeps the price down (slightly).
The Wankel rotorary is also an impressive motor. Such a small size creating the power it makes, that is impressive. The size also alows you more flexability in motor location and orientation. The drawback of the rotorary is that it is such a rare technology that you have fewer people developing into it and buying it. Less money equals slower leaps in advancements.
Both cars are equally impressive in their intended environments, and are quite capable in other environments. The real bonus is seeing two cars companies that show the world different paths to great sports cars.
(Which reminds me of air-cooled Porsches in a liquid-cooled world, what a beautiful sound those were.)
Peace...really.
Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
How about no. An LS1 will positively destroy an Evo or STI on any relatively straight track. The Evo and STi would only have an advantage on a track with lots of turns. Maybe you should have specified what kind of track you were talking about
Originally Posted by 2 FASST SS
Isn't the 787B a prototype? Come to think of it.... IT IS!!! Not a production car. Does not count...
So the C5R race car is in production? Wow, where can I get one? Saying those race cars are anywhat like the originals is like saying funny cars are like their originals.
Originally Posted by LSINA7
So the C5R race car is in production? Wow, where can I get one? Saying those race cars are anywhat like the originals is like saying funny cars are like their originals.
In general, how ridiculous an argument is this to have spun off to this?
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Originally Posted by LSINA7
So the C5R race car is in production? Wow, where can I get one? Saying those race cars are anywhat like the originals is like saying funny cars are like their originals.
As a matter of fact, now they call it the C6R. C5R is not being made anymore. If you would like to pick up a C6R, they call it the Z06. Only thing is missing is a few parts and a body kit...