RX8 Kill
Originally Posted by rastarajah
Haha, I never said it didn't do well in Japan, I said on the US tracks, they are so different.
Besides, where's the 911 and gt3?
Like I said, and everyone else has said, the driver plays the part but that's good movies.
Originally Posted by wickedwarlock
Haha, I never said it didn't do well in Japan, I said on the US tracks, they are so different.
Besides, where's the 911 and gt3?
Like I said, and everyone else has said, the driver plays the part but that's good movies.
Besides, where's the 911 and gt3?
Like I said, and everyone else has said, the driver plays the part but that's good movies.
Originally Posted by wickedwarlock
Haha, I never said it didn't do well in Japan, I said on the US tracks, they are so different.
Besides, where's the 911 and gt3?
Like I said, and everyone else has said, the driver plays the part but that's good movies.
Besides, where's the 911 and gt3?
Like I said, and everyone else has said, the driver plays the part but that's good movies.
the video i just linked you to is with R34 spec v skylines, EVO 9's, BOSS STi, NSX.
really, do you think the fbody can hang with them? i love fbody's as much as the next muscle car guy, but i also know where to draw the line on what they can actually do.
those are ALL professional drivers in those cars. NSX and R34 spec v skylines are how much? those cars were being abused. if it did so good in japan, where they have some of the most dificult tracks in the world, what makes you think it won't do/hasn't done any good in the US?
remember guys, this is a 15 year old crap car.
Originally Posted by rastarajah
you're missing the point.
the video i just linked you to is with R34 spec v skylines, EVO 9's, BOSS STi, NSX.
really, do you think the fbody can hang with them? i love fbody's as much as the next muscle car guy, but i also know where to draw the line on what they can actually do.
those are ALL professional drivers in those cars. NSX and R34 spec v skylines are how much? those cars were being abused. if it did so good in japan, where they have some of the most dificult tracks in the world, what makes you think it won't do/hasn't done any good in the US?
remember guys, this is a 15 year old crap car.
the video i just linked you to is with R34 spec v skylines, EVO 9's, BOSS STi, NSX.
really, do you think the fbody can hang with them? i love fbody's as much as the next muscle car guy, but i also know where to draw the line on what they can actually do.
those are ALL professional drivers in those cars. NSX and R34 spec v skylines are how much? those cars were being abused. if it did so good in japan, where they have some of the most dificult tracks in the world, what makes you think it won't do/hasn't done any good in the US?
remember guys, this is a 15 year old crap car.
I don't see how the Skyline, Evos, STIs, or an NSX are out of an F-Body's league. Lets think about where these cars came from:
The Evo started out in the early 90's as a base model Lancer Economy car. They threw a turbo and suspension upgrades on it, and entered it in rally races. Nothing spectacular about that.
The STI?? Same thing. Regular Subaru Impreza platform with upgrades to make it rally-worthy. A 4 door base model family sedan with performance upgrades is out of an F-Body's (which is a REAL sports car) league?? You must be kidding.
At least both the NSX and Skyline are actually sports cars. They are definitely above the F-Body in terms of track performance, but then again, they cost anywhere from twice to three times as much. So, therefore they are in Corvette territory. A C6 Corvette will destroy an NSX or Skyline, and the Z06 will just plain embarrass them.
There's no point in comparing supercars to pony cars, you have to compare apples with apples.
Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
Looks like someones got an attitude problem.
I don't see how the Skyline, Evos, STIs, or an NSX are out of an F-Body's league. Lets think about where these cars came from:
The Evo started out in the early 90's as a base model Lancer Economy car. They threw a turbo and suspension upgrades on it, and entered it in rally races. Nothing spectacular about that.
The STI?? Same thing. Regular Subaru Impreza platform with upgrades to make it rally-worthy. A 4 door base model family sedan with performance upgrades is out of an F-Body's (which is a REAL sports car) league?? You must be kidding.
At least both the NSX and Skyline are actually sports cars. They are definitely above the F-Body in terms of track performance, but then again, they cost anywhere from twice to three times as much. So, therefore they are in Corvette territory. A C6 Corvette will destroy an NSX or Skyline, and the Z06 will just plain embarrass them.
There's no point in comparing supercars to pony cars, you have to compare apples with apples.
I don't see how the Skyline, Evos, STIs, or an NSX are out of an F-Body's league. Lets think about where these cars came from:
The Evo started out in the early 90's as a base model Lancer Economy car. They threw a turbo and suspension upgrades on it, and entered it in rally races. Nothing spectacular about that.
The STI?? Same thing. Regular Subaru Impreza platform with upgrades to make it rally-worthy. A 4 door base model family sedan with performance upgrades is out of an F-Body's (which is a REAL sports car) league?? You must be kidding.
At least both the NSX and Skyline are actually sports cars. They are definitely above the F-Body in terms of track performance, but then again, they cost anywhere from twice to three times as much. So, therefore they are in Corvette territory. A C6 Corvette will destroy an NSX or Skyline, and the Z06 will just plain embarrass them.
There's no point in comparing supercars to pony cars, you have to compare apples with apples.
Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
How is that an excuse??
You think its fair to compare an F-Body to sports cars costing 3 times as much?? You can't be serious
You think its fair to compare an F-Body to sports cars costing 3 times as much?? You can't be serious
Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
How is that an excuse??
You think its fair to compare an F-Body to sports cars costing 3 times as much?? You can't be serious
You think its fair to compare an F-Body to sports cars costing 3 times as much?? You can't be serious
And you talk about throwing in a C6 Corvette, a brand new car, with old cars 5+ years old, some 15? Even so, I would still sit here and tell you those cars would hang and probably beat a C6 vette at a race track. And then you bring in a 70K car right after you said it wasn't fair to compare more expensive cars.
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Originally Posted by LSINA7
What car costs 3 times as much as a F-body except the NSX? All the other cars are in the same price range.
And you talk about throwing in a C6 Corvette, a brand new car, with old cars 5+ years old, some 15? Even so, I would still sit here and tell you those cars would hang and probably beat a C6 vette at a race track. And then you bring in a 70K car right after you said it wasn't fair to compare more expensive cars.
And you talk about throwing in a C6 Corvette, a brand new car, with old cars 5+ years old, some 15? Even so, I would still sit here and tell you those cars would hang and probably beat a C6 vette at a race track. And then you bring in a 70K car right after you said it wasn't fair to compare more expensive cars.
this dude can do it, but we can't! 
Originally Posted by rastarajah
you're missing the point.
the video i just linked you to is with R34 spec v skylines, EVO 9's, BOSS STi, NSX.
really, do you think the fbody can hang with them? i love fbody's as much as the next muscle car guy, but i also know where to draw the line on what they can actually do.
those are ALL professional drivers in those cars. NSX and R34 spec v skylines are how much? those cars were being abused. if it did so good in japan, where they have some of the most dificult tracks in the world, what makes you think it won't do/hasn't done any good in the US?
remember guys, this is a 15 year old crap car.
the video i just linked you to is with R34 spec v skylines, EVO 9's, BOSS STi, NSX.
really, do you think the fbody can hang with them? i love fbody's as much as the next muscle car guy, but i also know where to draw the line on what they can actually do.
those are ALL professional drivers in those cars. NSX and R34 spec v skylines are how much? those cars were being abused. if it did so good in japan, where they have some of the most dificult tracks in the world, what makes you think it won't do/hasn't done any good in the US?
remember guys, this is a 15 year old crap car.
Look at the mustangs, they dominate in the US here. I'm saying that the fd in the US is tougher than in Japan. Only because the tracks don't turn as sharp and there's long straights, just as I pointed out with Thunderhill with the 911 and gt3 putting bus lengths on the fd there.
Edit: Just as old technology from the corvette somehow is capable to keep up with technology advanced porsches, etc. I mean, they are OHC motors and using springs.
But somehow, it puts up great lap times. Last edited by wickedwarlock; Jun 1, 2006 at 07:34 PM.
Originally Posted by bboyferal
Wow, I don't even know what to post...
Since we can't find stock times for a track, I think I'm going to dust off my Logitech wheel and Gran Turismo 4 do some simulated tests.
You would probably be better off. This is thread is full of bench racing. Disputing all the naysayers is like wiping before you ****.
Originally Posted by bboyferal
Wow, I don't even know what to post...
Since we can't find stock times for a track, I think I'm going to dust off my Logitech wheel and Gran Turismo 4 do some simulated tests.
Do it... Do it.
Wow! I can't believe I started this thread 9 days ago and it's now at 253 replies. I guess I shouldn't have used the words "Jap Crap"!
I won't even talk about the 350Z that tried to race me last night. Because he went down baby.
I won't even talk about the 350Z that tried to race me last night. Because he went down baby.
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I just don't freaking get it. A STOCK C6 sent alot of high dollar TRACK cars back to the drawing board i'm sure, and people STILL don't give GM any credit for on the track handling. It amazes me. All mags are saying LAMBOS YOU BETTER WATCH OUT!!!, FERRARIS THERE's A VETTE IN YOUR REAR VIEW AND IT'S GOING TO PASS YOU!!! I never heard that from Honda, Mazda, Nissan, OR Toyota (Without mods). Do we have to move to the Le Mans where the freaking C5R & C6R ONLY dominated the dam race. Then there's MOPAR. The team Oreca Viper. At one time that was the car to beat. What alot of people need to realize specifically the import crowd, we are crossing over into you tracks and twisities. Camaro Drag Car. Corvette track car, and I dare you to race that dam car on the track. Of course you are going to say it's slow, but of course it is still STOCK!!!
Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
Looks like someones got an attitude problem.
I don't see how the Skyline, Evos, STIs, or an NSX are out of an F-Body's league. Lets think about where these cars came from:
The Evo started out in the early 90's as a base model Lancer Economy car. They threw a turbo and suspension upgrades on it, and entered it in rally races. Nothing spectacular about that.
The STI?? Same thing. Regular Subaru Impreza platform with upgrades to make it rally-worthy. A 4 door base model family sedan with performance upgrades is out of an F-Body's (which is a REAL sports car) league?? You must be kidding.
At least both the NSX and Skyline are actually sports cars. They are definitely above the F-Body in terms of track performance, but then again, they cost anywhere from twice to three times as much. So, therefore they are in Corvette territory. A C6 Corvette will destroy an NSX or Skyline, and the Z06 will just plain embarrass them.
There's no point in comparing supercars to pony cars, you have to compare apples with apples.
I don't see how the Skyline, Evos, STIs, or an NSX are out of an F-Body's league. Lets think about where these cars came from:
The Evo started out in the early 90's as a base model Lancer Economy car. They threw a turbo and suspension upgrades on it, and entered it in rally races. Nothing spectacular about that.
The STI?? Same thing. Regular Subaru Impreza platform with upgrades to make it rally-worthy. A 4 door base model family sedan with performance upgrades is out of an F-Body's (which is a REAL sports car) league?? You must be kidding.
At least both the NSX and Skyline are actually sports cars. They are definitely above the F-Body in terms of track performance, but then again, they cost anywhere from twice to three times as much. So, therefore they are in Corvette territory. A C6 Corvette will destroy an NSX or Skyline, and the Z06 will just plain embarrass them.
There's no point in comparing supercars to pony cars, you have to compare apples with apples.
Originally Posted by 2 FASST SS
It amazes me. All mags are saying LAMBOS YOU BETTER WATCH OUT!!!, FERRARIS THERE's A VETTE IN YOUR REAR VIEW AND IT'S GOING TO PASS YOU!!! I never heard that from Honda, Mazda, Nissan, OR Toyota (Without mods).
Do we have to move to the Le Mans where the freaking C5R & C6R ONLY dominated the dam race. Then there's MOPAR. The team Oreca Viper. At one time that was the car to beat. What alot of people need to realize specifically the import crowd, we are crossing over into you tracks and twisities.
first year with that, it won and was banned from the circuit.
now, that was Mazda, remember?
Camaro Drag Car. Corvette track car, and I dare you to race that dam car on the track. Of course you are going to say it's slow, but of course it is still STOCK!!!
to everyone, i'm sorry to have to keep this thread going.
