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Old 05-26-2006 | 01:16 PM
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let me refrase. a good driver in an ls1 could beat an rx-8. end of story.
Old 05-26-2006 | 09:53 PM
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let me refrase. a good driver in an ls1 could beat an rx-8. end of story.

Not at a track. End of story.
Old 05-28-2006 | 11:47 PM
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It was mentioned about the 3 rotor earlier.

Someone knows what they are talking about.

I own an RX8 and enjoy every minute of it!!!

FYI, a 3 rotor vehicle would compete VERY heavily in a straight line with your vehicles. In my community (the RX8 one) we had a few guys do a 3 rotor swap into their 8's. The result, they were dropping 650+hp to the wheels. Not only that, but they had a near 50/50 weight ratio balance.

You guys continually knock 'Jap Crap' but forget to realize that you have a 1.3L engine that is capable of revving to 9600 rpms, delivering 240 horsepower at LESS THAN THAT (8200 to be exact), and can maneuver in a road course (due to the lightweight and placement of the engine [50/50 weight balance]).

Someone also mentioned the phrase 'dyno queen.' You obviously have no clue that the rotary engine's power delivery IS LINEAR. As well, the torque curve is FLAT. You guys are technically smart... mull over it for a while.

Finally, I dare you guys to take on a 3 rotor RX-anything in anything! Or is a 1.95 liter engine running a 9-10 second 1/4 too slow for you?

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Old 05-29-2006 | 12:59 AM
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20+b's are hard to come by and will cost you your left nut and a leg.
Old 05-29-2006 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by avatarqaz
Someone also mentioned the phrase 'dyno queen.' You obviously have no clue that the rotary engine's power delivery IS LINEAR. As well, the torque curve is FLAT. You guys are technically smart... mull over it for a while.
You beat me to it... I think that the problem is that most people are uneducated about imports. Especially some people on this site. Rotaries are far from dyno queens; go to any rx7 forum and look at dyno graphs, there's nothing like it. Imports have gained a horrible stereotype in the last few years, but the domestic guys need to realize the difference between "jap crap" and other imports. There are several rotary powered (and LSx powered) RX7's around here that are simply amazing! There are even some 11.xx sec civcs; the funny thing is that none of them have punk paint jobs, big heavy wheels, ground effects, neons, fart cannons, wings, ect...

Also, many people here don't care about performance in the twisties. So, its very hard for them to swallow the fact that a car they smack around on the street will walk all over them on the road course. The RX8 is EXTREMELY impresive in the handling department.

I say, "give credit where due." If your f-body makes 500 n/a hp, and runs 10.xx @ 130mph, that's great! Chances are, that's what your goal was when you started modding the car. Don't knock the people who don't care what their car et's or traps, and builds or buys something that sticks to the road like a booger to your finger.

On another note, since the guy was asking for it, good kill.
Old 05-29-2006 | 01:25 AM
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Dyno queen, makes 240hp, JUST LIKE THE S2000. Weighs about the same. One runs high 14's and one runs high 13's/low 14's. You tell me why its not a dyno queen.
Old 05-29-2006 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
Dyno queen, makes 240hp, JUST LIKE THE S2000. Weighs about the same. One runs high 14's and one runs high 13's/low 14's. You tell me why its not a dyno queen.
Well, one weighs less than 100 than another and peak torque is a nice number on paper, but less relevant than power under the curve
Old 05-29-2006 | 01:39 AM
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http://www.edmunds.com/used/2004/hon...367/specs.html

S2000, 2004. 2835# and 240bhp

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2005/maz...531/specs.html

RX8, 2005 3025=9# and 238 bhp


WHY IS THE S200 over half a second faster in the 1/4 even with ameratures behind the wheel and in every acceleration test? Could it be that this Rotary is a dyno queen?? Me thinks so
Old 05-29-2006 | 01:40 AM
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Just because one car can use power more efficiently than another doesn't make it a dyno queen. I've seen '03-'04 cobras dyno over 500 hp and not get into the low 11's. On the other hand, I've seen 500 hp f-body's go mid 10's.... So, is the cobra a dyno queen?

You want a dyno queen? Look at the supras that need un-holy amounts of boost for those 800-1000 hp numbers. The turbos are so big on some of those, they don't spool until 6K rpm (or more). Still, I'd hate to run into it on the interstate; from a 100mph roll they can really move. (a real race starts at 0 mph)
Old 05-29-2006 | 01:51 AM
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Just like said above, power under curve is more important than peak. Both the RX-8 and the S2000 are peaky, but the Rx8 is more. The S2000 also weighs less.
Old 05-29-2006 | 03:29 AM
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150# does NOT equal half a second and both cars hook up about the same, the RX8 has less useable power but a nice peak, as I said dyno queen
Old 05-29-2006 | 03:53 AM
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Just to post some facts here.

The camaro ss posted .87 on the skidpad and 60mph in the slalom.

the rx8 posted .88 on the skid pad and 65.4 in the slalom.

I dont see impressive anything impressive from the rx8. Street/ strip/ road coarse I dont give a ****, Im throwing my money on the fbody. Those numbers are from Road and Track....and we know how much they love american cars.
Old 05-29-2006 | 04:04 AM
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I agree, the RX8 takes too much money to make fun unless you live in the mountains. The only car of its type in its price range I would consider would be an S2K, which can be made decently fast (My friend has run 13.6 so far on tires with full exhaust and gears..sounds like LT1'ish times almost).
Old 05-29-2006 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
150# does NOT equal half a second and both cars hook up about the same, the RX8 has less useable power but a nice peak, as I said dyno queen
For the third time, power under the curve.
Old 05-29-2006 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by avatarqaz
It was mentioned about the 3 rotor earlier.

Someone knows what they are talking about.

I own an RX8 and enjoy every minute of it!!!

FYI, a 3 rotor vehicle would compete VERY heavily in a straight line with your vehicles. In my community (the RX8 one) we had a few guys do a 3 rotor swap into their 8's. The result, they were dropping 650+hp to the wheels. Not only that, but they had a near 50/50 weight ratio balance.

You guys continually knock 'Jap Crap' but forget to realize that you have a 1.3L engine that is capable of revving to 9600 rpms, delivering 240 horsepower at LESS THAN THAT (8200 to be exact), and can maneuver in a road course (due to the lightweight and placement of the engine [50/50 weight balance]).

Someone also mentioned the phrase 'dyno queen.' You obviously have no clue that the rotary engine's power delivery IS LINEAR. As well, the torque curve is FLAT. You guys are technically smart... mull over it for a while.

Finally, I dare you guys to take on a 3 rotor RX-anything in anything! Or is a 1.95 liter engine running a 9-10 second 1/4 too slow for you?
Drop in an LS1 into an RX-7 and itll handle better then before, and be reliable! LOL!
Old 05-29-2006 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gloveperson
Stop posting on this site. That is all I have to say.

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edit: or change your additude. Oh and good kill.
Are you a mod?? NO. Do you even own an F-Body?? NO.

You are an STi fanboy, take your own advice if you seriously feel the need to make comments like that to others
Old 05-29-2006 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LSINA7
I made my car to go fast at the strip. I think full interior, with a bolt-ons head/cam car, that can go 10's with a nice tire on it, is pretty fast in a straight. Then being able to pull over 1 g on the skidpad, and get 20 mpg is pretty good. And not many domestics have the looks and style of imports (By imports with looks I mean Supras, RX-7's, 240's, Skylines). I do love a camaro or mustang with some big *** tires on it. But it doesn't have the style.
You're saying Camaros and Firebirds "don't have the style" of imports like the Supra, RX7, 240,and Skyline??

You can't even be serious. All of those cars look like **** next to a Camaro SS or T/A WS6. Style my ***, none of those vehicles you mentioned have anything close to the "style" of an F-Body. Especially the 240, which looks like it came out of someones *******.

Enough with the bragging about imports and your "LS1 RX-7", every chance you get you have to add in something about them.

Not to mention defending the RX-8 like its your first boen child, its not impressive by any means. The skidpad and slalom numbers were posted, they don't handle significantly better than F-Bodys.

You're got the typical import fanboy bias of assuming all Domestic cars handle like crap. I'm willing to bet that a Trans Am WS6 would easily keep up with an RX-8 on a road course, its only a couple hundred pounds heavier and has a significant horsepower advantage. Enough with the trolling.
Old 05-29-2006 | 12:54 PM
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Skyline and Supra look better then Camaro's. I gotta admit, they arent the greatest looking cars in the world. I love the TA though, and Mustangs are sex on wheels!
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Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
Are you a mod?? NO. Do you even own an F-Body?? NO.

You are an STi fanboy, take your own advice if you seriously feel the need to make comments like that to others
Look at the sig and the post count. I guess my two F-bodies make me have no knowledge of F-bodies right?

The poster here should stop posting. And you should too. Making fun of cars for no paticular reason, and being an *** at the same time give F-body owners a terrible name.

Oh wait, I am an STi fanboiiiiiiiiiiii
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Originally Posted by Gloveperson
For the third time, power under the curve.

Like I said, the RX8 is a dynoqueen, thankyou for agreeing



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