DemitriHKS

Nice, can't wait to see the turnout and what type of numbers you can put down with that setup on the car.

Martinrulz

Oh dam what did I start here? lol Anyway I ran the same guy again just now on the same road even. We went from about 30 - 90 a couple times and I got him by 1 to 1 1/2 cars each time. He was pretty cool this time as we both gave thumbs up and a nod.

1QuickBlkZ28

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The LT1 has 285hp and 325lbs of torque and weighs 3500lbs, the 350Z has what 287hp? I'm damn near positive doesnt have anywear near 325lbs of torque and is a boat but you claim it'll beat a LT1 z28 everytime? I doubt that, it's a drivers race and it's only a drivers race because unmoddified LT1 Camaros are getting old. A well taken care of LT1 with just an exhaust will walk a 350Z from a dig.

GXPPOWER

sorry but i wooped 350z day in and out at the track stock for stock in my 4 door grocery getter Grand Prix GXP before i traded it in. hmm and it weighed more than your 350z...... so whats your excuse now? 350z are faster than mustang GTs but i never see 350z Ever break under 9.2-9.3 in our 1/8 track here. and i watch stock lt1s run 9.1 and 8.9 all day. then again the stang gts are running like 9.4 and 9.5 ahah. and whats funny is. we all can go look at the vid of the turbo/supercharged 350z having their hands full with the bolt on ls1s and the cammed ls1s.

350z are way overpriced for their poor performance. why buy a 350z when you could get a srt4 for less and i dont think 350z are 3100lbs your cars have like 298 hp stock right at the crank? weigh about what 3100, 3250 probly with an average person in it i guess since you said your was 31 something without you. so your 350z with 298 hp... 300 hp for the new ones... can on the AVERAGE only run 14s but only weigh 32-33 lbs... and my 3700 lbs grand prix GXP with 303 hp. 4 speed AUTO ran 13.9@102 mph stock with a 2.3 60ft. and i paid hmmmm... WAY LESS 26k exactly. oh and multiple guys have ran 13.6s in GXP stock.. so apparantly 350z lack something? mabe just horrible drivers buy them. i dunno. so anything else you wanna try bashing on about lt1s? ill make your 350z look worse and worse.

GXPPOWER

only FI makes 350zs fast. without it their nothing but a nice looking car that falls on its face for being the high performance car for the company.

ChocoTaco369

only FI makes pretty much every japanese car fast

i'm sorry, it's true. they come tuned and maxed from the factory. they can't pick up 50hp with a lid, catback and headers like we do. our cars are very poorly tuned from the factory. we throw on headers and see 30hp. guess what a 350z sees with headers? certainly not 30hp i'm sure!

our cars have so much more potential it's really unfair to compare them. a 350z is not a good racing platform. owning a 350z is more about a looks thing. they're a very unique car and there are few on the roads. of course, i think they're ugly...but to each his own.

japan thinks they're the **** right now with 3 dollar gasoline, but they still haven't learned to make a strong powerplant without the help of forced induction. i think it's said that they're using DOHC setups can't can't match the power of an ancient pushrod motor.

DemitriHKS

I'm just going to say, give credit where credit is due. For one reading your post how the hell can you compare a SRT-4 to a 350Z?? Yes they can be made fast.....then again anything can be made fast. Even fast enought to take a GXP or GTP whatever. A 3.5 liter putting 300hp without FI is pretty impressive if you ask me because what your comparing it to is a 5.7 V8 pushing out 320 or something so thats like 20hp more? Who's building better quality again?? The Z was made to be quick and tunable to be fast but mostly to be taken to a road course so you can talk all you want but we'll see how your grocery getter goes around the corners on streets after your done shopping. Then again I wouldn't like to see it but, it would be intersting to see a 450Z with a factory V8 in it. What should that be pushing if the V6 is hitting the 300hp mark?

DVan8504

Seems like these 350z threads cause some hurt feelings or something.

All things equal and stock:
350z is faster than pre-05 mustang gt
350z is slower than 05+ mustang gt
350z is slower than ls1s
350z is slower than ls2s
etc. etc.

average nissan 350z driver nails a 14.1ish. i have seen several in the 13s stock with the best being a 13.6 bone stock.

nice runs.

DemitriHKS

They do and I ran out of tissues lol!!

Domestic Demon

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"Whos building better quality"?? What the hell are you even talking about??

I really couldn't care less how much "HP per Liter" the 350Z puts out, thats ricer math and its completely irrelevent. Reason being that no matter how much "HP/L" it makes, its still not comparable to a V8. It doesn't make the torque of a V8, it doesn't sound anywhere near as good as a V8, it doesn't have the low end power and flexible rev range of a V8, and the funny thing is it actually gets worse fuel economy than a V8 F-body. In my book, thats pathetic.

Once again, what are you even talking about?? "Grocery getters" going around corners?? Say what?? If you're referring to the handling of an F-body compared to that of the 350Z, just drop it right now. The 350Z doesn't outhandle a WS6/SS LS1 F-body, despite what some people would like to believe.

GXPPOWER

nissan in general; HAS horrible realiability. thats a well known fact. esp in the 350z. they are cheaply made. the outside looks good but its internals have issues. and here is a point.... why does your 3. whatever liter v6 get less gas mileage than a 5.7l v8 pushrod?..

thats why nissan doesnt use v8s becausr your v6 already use up more gas than our "old" v8s..... ok and again ill make a point. the new nissan are rated at 300 hp. probly 260-270 at the wheels im guessing. a ls1 on average probly is pushing 280-290 to the wheels stock. ls1 wegh around 33to 3400 lbs depending on driver. so thats still a good 200 lbs more than a 350z. 200lbs pretty much equals out a 20-30 hp difference. and whats your excuse for my 3500+ lb convertible running 13.6? with a 2.30 60ft. by the way later ran a 13.5 flat with a 2.19 60ft before my mods. i trap faster than the 350z run better ETs. and yet probly have close to the same weight to HP ratio..... like someone else said. japan is way behind if its almighty 350z cant keep up with some old GM pushrod v8s even more funny. its version of the ls1.their unbeatable car...... the super ultra almighty skyline.... will most likely be sucking the exhaust gas from z06s..


one more thing..... its pointless to brag about your 300 hp v6.... because mistu and sub have 4 cylinders pushing 300 hp also..... so i dont wanna hear that nonsense.

and like the other guy said. a ws6/ss would handl;e it self fairly well in a road course vs a 350z. oh and to someone else i mention the srt4 because ive seen more of them run faster times than the 350z.

DVan8504

mitsu and suby have turbocharged 4s making 300hp, not na 6s. kind of a big difference there

Blue04

I'm not the biggest fan of Z's, but that statement of handling is a joke. F-bodies are great powerplants but they handle like garbage compared to a Z.

Joegt38

Nice kill, the 350z is a very nice car but not a great drag car. Ive beat a few with my 02GT way b4 the blower.

Domestic Demon

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Per Car and Driver:

Pontiac Trans Am/Firehawk:

Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad..........0.88 g

Nissan 350Z 35th Anniversary Edition:

Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad..........0.88 g

What were you saying??

DVan8504

The jeep grand cherokee str8 owns the skipad. Does that mean it handles as well as a car? Nope. Skidpad's not the only test.

Domestic Demon

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Way to beat around the bush. He said an F-body "Handles like garbage compared to a 350Z", so I posted the skidpad numbers to prove him wrong.

I'll try and find the slalom numbers as well, doubt they're too far off.

sentry65

what about slalom speeds?

not bad that the Z gets .88 g's on 225 and 235 tires and the transam 275's to pull the same

that seems interesting because the transam has almost 20% more total tire on the ground yet only weighs 6% more

What do you think 275's all around on the Z would do? Some people are putting 285's front and 315's rear on Z's even and pulling some huge g's

how wide can you go on a transam anyway?

Avalanche

I raced a TT Icon 350Z on the street after a local car show. I got a full car length jump on him off the line and even though he pulled me in real soon it was a good 60 feet before I got my doors blown off. The next light he hooked, it was dead even for maybe 3 seconds then he had me again. It doesnt matter how much HP you have its all about the road conditions and the driver. If I said I had pulled a 500+ rwhp car off the line people wouldnt believe but my buddy dave was with me. Big difference between me and the Z, my suspension and tires caused me to squat and launch, his spin spin spin spin grip. The Z is a pretty car but that's all in my opinion. Japanese cars can be awesome, but honest its all about $$$. Lets say you want to beat a brute of a Supra from a 60mph roll with a domestic, most jap fans say it cant happen. TT 427 small block F Body will make it happen, its not a likely combo but it would probably cost the same to build as a lesser supra. In the end its not always about the car its about the driver from skill to bank accounts.

sentry65

found some slalom speeds for you guys:

trans am
= 61.6 mph
http://www.fast-autos.com/transam.html

= 66mph
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...s_am_firehawk/

= 64.6mph
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._trans_am_ws6/




350Z
= 70.8mph
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/ro...cc_nismo_350z/


= 69.7mph
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._overview.html

= 67.3mph
http://soulphoto.net/index.php?/Main...sche_buildoff/


sounds like the Z is faster at the slalom to me...
and it pulls those speeds off with 225 and 235 (or 245 rear for track model) tires