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Will a 400rwhp f-body beat a stock C6 Z06?

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Old 08-31-2006, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
You don't?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racing-results/187330-fastest-cam-only-cars-list.html



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Board ID - 1/4 ET @ MPH (60ft), Yr & Type of car, Trans, Converter/Clutch, Gear, Cam, DA, Race Weight, Date
  1. Smokin01ta ---- 10.219@132.29 (1.38), 01 TA, M6, Spec4, 4.56, TRex, -1100, 3010, 3/06
  2. LS1Joe----------10.232@132.04 (1.39), 02z28, M6, Spec4, 4.71, 250, -1100, 3150, 03/06
  3. 01-z------------10.295@128.48 (1.38), 01 z, Th400, 5500, 4.57, G5X4, -110,2880, 4/05
  4. Magnus -------- 10.295@128.48 (1.36), 97brd, T350, 5500, 4.10,G5X4, +200, 2820, 4/05
  5. Dragaholic-------10.340@127.46 (1.36), 00 SS, 350, 5500, 4.56, TRex, -700,

What kind of dyno #s did they put down???
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
So its pretty much been settled, NO!, a 400 rwhp F-body can't beat a stock C6 ZO6

Hell my car is lighter and has a over 70 more rwhp and 40-50 more rwtq then the F-bod being discussed and still couldn't outrun the MF'r, and I have been to 200 mph on 3 times. Maybe on a 150 to 200 topspeed race. LOL that will never happen.
I agree with you allngn c5 hell you would blow his doors off
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Originally Posted by StealthZ06
In the quarter-mile, given equal driving ability, will a 400rwhp f-body beat a stock C6 Z06?

This guy thinks so...
the z06 is 4 or 500 pounds heavier. The new z06 tests over 450 at the wheels,
id say the z06 would whoop some ***, traction permitting
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Better powerband on the Z06 means more time in lower gears. The Z06 has more power overall. The Z06 weighs less. The Z06 might have IRS, but it also has more weight over the rear wheel proportionally.


Z06 by a big big margin unless the F-Body has a seriously nice launch.
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Originally Posted by 00blownWS6
i've raced a few and blew their doors off, especially from a roll on, but i have a blower and cam that keep pulling all the way to the redline. then again i also have 508rwhp on the most terrible day possible to dyno. i'm guessing the c6 z06 would win but not by much. my roomate has a c5 z06 and those things are over-rated, trust me. ls1 f-body all the way!
A C5 Z06 is absolutely nothing like a C6 Z06 and the LS6 (a hopped up LS1) is nothing like the LS7 (A detuned C6R engine for all intents and purposes). Corvettes are not meant to be drag cars but the very fact they trap almost 130 MPH stock says a lot about their acceleration capability. On the street a C6 Z06 would bitchslap a 400 RWHP F-body. I'd take a C6 Z06 over any f-body any day it's the superior machine. The F-body would have to be a dedicated drag car to make up for all the disadvantages it has compared to the vette and get a good run at 400 RWHP, and dedicated drag cars are no fun, especially on the street lol
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Originally Posted by 02NBMWS6
400rwhp 4500 stalled auto f-body with 4.30's and stripped down and on a tire will beat a stock C6 Z06
lol you're joking right? stripped down to what? It'd have to go down to 3000 lbs to stand a chance, and then you've got a crappy auto? Have you been in a Z06 while it's floored in 3rd gear? Quite possibly the hardest gear it pulls in, compared to the pathetic 3rd gear of the fbody, even with a huge stall and gears wouldn't be enough.
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Originally Posted by Quick1998Z28
lol you're joking right? stripped down to what? It'd have to go down to 3000 lbs to stand a chance
Yeah it would probably need to be at 3000 raceweight.



Originally Posted by Quick1998Z28
and then you've got a crappy auto?
Now dem dere is fight'n words Do you realise that the quickest F-bodies are autos? The 7 and even 6 second LS1's use automatic transmissions so don't be calling automatics crappy around these here parts.

Originally Posted by Quick1998Z28
Have you been in a Z06 while it's floored in 3rd gear? Quite possibly the hardest gear it pulls in, compared to the pathetic 3rd gear of the fbody.
Pathetic third gear? Third gear is usually what everyone else is praising about the LS1 because of the fact that LS1's make good power higher up in the RPM range (compared to the LT1 before it). As long as the gears/stall/cam/tires were well thought out then an auto LS1 can and does have a very strong third gear.

Originally Posted by Quick1998Z28
even with a huge stall and gears wouldn't be enough.
On the street you are definately correct. At the track? Well this might be a different story. Most LS7 Z06's are running mid to upper 11's. Ranger is an excellent driver and I give mad props to him but the average guy launching and shifting a Z06 is gonna be upper 11's as opposed to lower 11's. That said, a 400 rwhp (through a big converter mind you) with a properly thought out suspension, gearing and tires can get very low 11's. They won't trap as high but they will cross the finish line first and in a drag race that's all that matters.

I beat a LS1 Vette at the track last month with a 12.5 @ 107 to his 12.6 @ 110. His car is faster (110 trap) but my car was quicker via my stall and drag radials. But I would still buy the vette if I could afford it
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Originally Posted by buffman
What kind of dyno #s did they put down???
I don't know, but I can guarantee you that at least one of the cars on that list with a lower ET than the C6 Z06 put down 400rwhp or less.

Winning a drag race is about a lot, lot more than dyno numbers.
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
I don't know, but I can guarantee you that at least one of the cars on that list with a lower ET than the C6 Z06 put down 400rwhp or less.

Winning a drag race is about a lot, lot more than dyno numbers.

I know. Was just curious...
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
I don't know, but I can guarantee you that at least one of the cars on that list with a lower ET than the C6 Z06 put down 400rwhp or less.

Winning a drag race is about a lot, lot more than dyno numbers.
this is true. Weight, aerodynamics, and gearing all play into it, as well as usable powerband. The LS7 Z06 has an LS1 F-body, even a 400 RWHP one, beat in all these characteristics.
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Originally Posted by Quick1998Z28
this is true. Weight, aerodynamics, and gearing all play into it, as well as usable powerband. The LS7 Z06 has an LS1 F-body, even a 400 RWHP one, beat in all these characteristics.



Then why is it we have a long list of cam only F-bodies running 10's.....?

Did you read the thread before replying?

The descriptiong "400rwhp F-body" could mean many, many different cars in many different configurations...some of which could beat a C6 Z06 day and night. Most, of course, could not hope to win.
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so the answer is technically, yes, a 400rwhp f-body could beat a stock C6 Z06. However, we all agree that the majority of 400rwhp f-bodies out there don't stand a ******* chance. so, even though the answer is technically yes, the majority rule says no. its kinda like asking, "could i be struck by lightning and killed today?" well, technically yes, allthough the majority rule will say no. a better question would be, " what is the chance that a 400rwhp f-body would beat a stock C6 Z06?"
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Originally Posted by Quick1998Z28
A C5 Z06 is absolutely nothing like a C6 Z06 and the LS6 (a hopped up LS1) is nothing like the LS7 (A detuned C6R engine for all intents and purposes). Corvettes are not meant to be drag cars but the very fact they trap almost 130 MPH stock says a lot about their acceleration capability. On the street a C6 Z06 would bitchslap a 400 RWHP F-body. I'd take a C6 Z06 over any f-body any day it's the superior machine. The F-body would have to be a dedicated drag car to make up for all the disadvantages it has compared to the vette and get a good run at 400 RWHP, and dedicated drag cars are no fun, especially on the street lol
There it is in a Nutshell.
Why several pages of fuss?
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If you read the first post and thread at LS2 I said you only need about 400rwhp to beat one, given the proper setup. This is not a false statment.
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Not false, but you also need the proper conditions too...on a track it could happen, if you have a light *** f-body on slicks and skinnies, and the Z06 stays on street tires, but on the street, I really don't see that happening. My car, all said and done, has a little over 400rwhp and I know I wouldn't stand a chance from a roll.
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I couldn't care less about roll racing. I also specified at a dragstrip, in the 1/4.

And quite a few of those cam only cars are daily driven.
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
You don't?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187330



Naturally Aspirated - CAM-ONLY :..

Board ID - 1/4 ET @ MPH (60ft), Yr & Type of car, Trans, Converter/Clutch, Gear, Cam, DA, Race Weight, Date
  1. Smokin01ta ---- 10.219@132.29 (1.38), 01 TA, M6, Spec4, 4.56, TRex, -1100, 3010, 3/06
  2. LS1Joe----------10.232@132.04 (1.39), 02z28, M6, Spec4, 4.71, 250, -1100, 3150, 03/06
  3. 01-z------------10.295@128.48 (1.38), 01 z, Th400, 5500, 4.57, G5X4, -110,2880, 4/05
  4. Magnus -------- 10.295@128.48 (1.36), 97brd, T350, 5500, 4.10,G5X4, +200, 2820, 4/05
  5. Dragaholic-------10.340@127.46 (1.36), 00 SS, 350, 5500, 4.56, TRex, -700,


That is a LAME argument. Ls1Joe and Smokin01ta are both making easily over 450rwhp, and that is through a 9". I think it would take a GUTTED 3000lb racer car with at least a 4500stall and a transbrake to get a 400rwhp car to keep up with a STOCK C6 Z06.....sorry man, but is it possible a 400rwhp fbody can take a z06? yea.....maybe if the Z06 driver missed a gear. Even with the above mentioned stripped race fbody, it still would be an awesome race to watch.

Do not match up a race car like Ls1Joe or Smokin to a STOCK c6Z
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Originally Posted by kick ss2000
No Offense But The Z06 Cars Are Very Over Rated And That 505 Is Not Rwhp Its Flywheel. And Id Take An F Body For 15k Over That Turd Of A Vette For 85 K All Day Long

umm just stop talking, please....
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Originally Posted by burnzilla
There it is in a Nutshell.
Why several pages of fuss?
agreed.
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Originally Posted by Cobra Commander
What's the best time for a stock C6 Z06?

What's the best time for any F-body making 400rwhp?

Exactly.

here ya go. check it out for yourself.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=ttO4gIlyq6E
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