2000 WS6 M6 vrs 2005 stang GT
10-02-2006, 09:47 PM
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Didn't know you were referring to a stock GT. But again how do you know any car is stock for that matter? I'd like to see a stock for stock ls1 and the new GT. FWIW my wifes a4 went 13.68@101 completely stock w/ her driving. To be honest, she is in the 12's with less mods than what it took me when I broke into the 12's. But in this thread I'd think w/ equal drivers WS6 will win each time. Has just a better power to weight ratio. -Mark
10-02-2006, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigthree
If the argument has been about power, then the edge goes to the LS1(cubes). My argument is and has been that we can run with ya. Stock 3:55's help a lot. If you're racing the 06's and 07's 3:55's are an option. Are you racing the guys without them? I dunno.
We're gonna keep repeating the "my car is better than your car debate"(my dad can beat up your dad) until we're blue in the face. The only thing to do is to race. We can't though. I've raced LS1's like many of you have raced Stangs.
We're gonna keep repeating the "my car is better than your car debate"(my dad can beat up your dad) until we're blue in the face. The only thing to do is to race. We can't though. I've raced LS1's like many of you have raced Stangs.
if an LS1 camaro is slow, so is an evo. tell your friend i personally said he is retarded and has no idea what he's talking about. then again, morons tend to hang out together 
i guess that explains a thing or two about you. come down to south jersey. PM me when you get here. i'll personally be glad to show you all 6 digits of my license plate.
10-03-2006, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
It would be a waste of gas for him to race a 05+ GT that is stock or close to it. Im sure he knows there are Stangs out there that can beat him
10-03-2006, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sidewayz28
bay area.. i respect stangs and was looking for a 5.0 at the time i found my SS. my brother has a 520rwhp 331 stroked 93 cobra. yeah i know theres PLENTY of stangs that would rape me
10-03-2006, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
Didn't know you were referring to a stock GT. But again how do you know any car is stock for that matter? I'd like to see a stock for stock ls1 and the new GT. FWIW my wifes a4 went 13.68@101 completely stock w/ her driving. To be honest, she is in the 12's with less mods than what it took me when I broke into the 12's. But in this thread I'd think w/ equal drivers WS6 will win each time. Has just a better power to weight ratio. -Mark
However, this thread has revealed some ignorance (no offense that's an accurate word) about S197 mustangs and high altitude as it affects N/A engines. I'm sure most here understand that an engine is nothing more than an air pump...high altitude = thinner/less air. less air = less fuel which = less horsepower. F/I helps a bunch in high altitudes. I hope everyone keeps an open mind here and recognizes facts when presented.
A stock S197 3V can make 300whp with a tune. 13:1 IS an acceptable A/F ratio. 3:55 gears help put an S197 into LS1 territory, but given equal drivers the STOCK LS1 has an advantage.
Still a driver's race. Tires would make a BIG difference.Begin modding and all that has been said goes out the window.
agreed! not too many stock ls1s these days... OR SO IT SEEMS 
10-03-2006, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigthree
I don't care who you've raced. LS1's are seriously overratted. You will be a thing of the past when the Boss 302 comes back. It's coming to compete with the new camaro. It's going to be a 5.0 or 5.4. It's going to be rated at 390, probably de-tuned like the S197's. Then we can see what's up between Ford and Chevy because the cubes will be closer. I know I can run with the Mach, but I like Mach's because it runs with LS1's and it's a 4.6 as well.
10-04-2006, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
I agree with Bitemark and most of the other posters here. LS1 motors have outstanding heads from the factory and it shows. I'm an experienced drag racer and car entusiasts. I've been impressed with most of the folks on this site and decided to join as a result. I'm a newb
However, this thread has revealed some ignorance (no offense that's an accurate word) about S197 mustangs and high altitude as it affects N/A engines. I'm sure most here understand that an engine is nothing more than an air pump...high altitude = thinner/less air. less air = less fuel which = less horsepower. F/I helps a bunch in high altitudes. I hope everyone keeps an open mind here and recognizes facts when presented.
A stock S197 3V can make 300whp with a tune. 13:1 IS an acceptable A/F ratio. 3:55 gears help put an S197 into LS1 territory, but given equal drivers the STOCK LS1 has an advantage. Still a driver's race. Tires would make a BIG difference.
Begin modding and all that has been said goes out the window.
However, this thread has revealed some ignorance (no offense that's an accurate word) about S197 mustangs and high altitude as it affects N/A engines. I'm sure most here understand that an engine is nothing more than an air pump...high altitude = thinner/less air. less air = less fuel which = less horsepower. F/I helps a bunch in high altitudes. I hope everyone keeps an open mind here and recognizes facts when presented.
A stock S197 3V can make 300whp with a tune. 13:1 IS an acceptable A/F ratio. 3:55 gears help put an S197 into LS1 territory, but given equal drivers the STOCK LS1 has an advantage.
Still a driver's race. Tires would make a BIG difference.Begin modding and all that has been said goes out the window.
I agree with everything you said.......except the 300RWHP with only a tune. BUt you still get an A - 98%......good job.
(just messin with ya)
