Got a piece of a Viper today
Originally Posted by Killemall
My 99 Viper just dynoed 410 rwhp and 465 rwt bone stock SAE on the same dyno that my bone stock 2004 auto C5 dynoed 299 rwhp and 310 rwt SAE...Most people thought my bone stock C5 was pretty fast...THE POINT IS.....
Vipers arent slow..Your car is just fast. Congradulations..But think about it..You have 500 somthing tourque with the nitros shot right????
how many cars can stay with you???
Vipers arent slow..Your car is just fast. Congradulations..But think about it..You have 500 somthing tourque with the nitros shot right????
how many cars can stay with you???

even with a good set of AFRs and all of the bolt ons your not going to 465rwtq on a 346ci ls1. **** most of my buddies all have full bolt on cars with H/C and there in the low to mid 400rwhp and high 300 to low 400 rwtq range.
Originally Posted by smokin00ss
even with a good set of AFRs and all of the bolt ons your not going to 465rwtq on a 346ci ls1. **** most of my buddies all have full bolt on cars with H/C and there in the low to mid 400rwhp and high 300 to low 400 rwtq range.
It just takes the right combonation, and a good tune.
Dont forget, depending on where you live that could also affect dyno numbers, IE Colorado, etc...
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Originally Posted by 06cobaltSS
No h/c LS1 will ever make 465 rwt, let alone a mild setup.
I just remembered, I believe Jim Sharps 02 Z made 507/456 at the wheels, a little more food for thought, and before you get snappy I know you mentioned LS1's and not LS6's.
Hey im not trying to stert anything..My car is a rt 10..It weighs 3390 pounds. In the best case senario with the hard top off and the rear window out with a 1/4 tank of gas im still gonna be around 3300 pounds..
410 rwhp and 3300 pounds is not a big deal in the real world. I no the car isnt a monster. i just like camaro's vettes and vipers.
I was just taking up for the Viper because someone said it was over rated...Too me 410 rwhp is still respectable for anything bone stock. And 465 rwt is more than the C6Z06 will put down.
The 99 C5 and 99 Viper were competitors...Back then their was no Z06. Now my c5 was a 2004..But it is a 99% copy of the 99 c5 minus the LS6 intake in such that barely maked a 3 rwhp differance...
Point is..My C5 put down 299 rwhp and 310 rwhp bone stock. My viper put down 410 rwhp and 465 rwt on the same exact dyno bone stock...
Thats a 111 rwhp and 155 rwt differance. Basicly I would have needed to add a 100 wet shot to the C5 to make it dyno like the Viper.
I dont know how else to explain it.....
I spent THOUSANDS of dollars to make my C5 go from dynoing 299 rwhp and 309 rwt to 378 rwhp and 370 rwt...Yea my combo would be considered a mild combo but hey I spent 50 grand on the Corvette and was scared to ruin it like the supercharged camaro I had before that blew up..
-bone stock LS6 heads ( good head for the price)
-224/224 .563 at 112 ( dropped me a solid 1/2 second at the drag strip)
-Vararam air intake( one tenth lost)
-no cats ( another tenth lost)
-no mufflers ( a solid 2 tenths lost)
-160 degree thermo ( great for optimizing power between runs)
I did these mods and put down 378 rwhp. For a auto I thought the numbers were pretty good for a mild/safe set up..I actually dynoed higher than most people. I here lots of stories of people hitting 400 rwhp on LS1's. But Ive never seen a NA one do it yet. So yea I was proud of my 378 rwhp..
BUT IMAGINE MY MOUTH DROPPING WHEN THE BONE STOCK VIPER PUT DOWN 410 RWHP AND 465 RWT. And I paid less for the 99 Viper than I did for the 04 Vette.
But hey Im an honest guy..410 rwhp and 465 rwt looks awesome on paper..
-but .55 coefficient drag for the Viper vrs .32 for the C5z06
-3390 pounds for the Viper vrs 3170 pounds for the z06
-3.07 gears for the viper vrs 3.42 M12 gears for the c5Z06
So even though the gen 2 Viper will dyno 60 rwhp more than a C5Z06 and 115 rwt higher as well..Because of weight gearing and areodynamics, The Viper is only around 3 tenths quicker in the 1/4 mile on average..
12.4 at 116 for a well driven C5Z06 on average
VRS
12.1 at 119 for a well driven viper on average
They both can and have gone much faster bone stock by the best drivers out their. But the point Im trying to make is that Im not trying to brag about the dyno numbers. I know what the Viper can and cant do
410 rwhp and 3300 pounds is not a big deal in the real world. I no the car isnt a monster. i just like camaro's vettes and vipers.
I was just taking up for the Viper because someone said it was over rated...Too me 410 rwhp is still respectable for anything bone stock. And 465 rwt is more than the C6Z06 will put down.
The 99 C5 and 99 Viper were competitors...Back then their was no Z06. Now my c5 was a 2004..But it is a 99% copy of the 99 c5 minus the LS6 intake in such that barely maked a 3 rwhp differance...
Point is..My C5 put down 299 rwhp and 310 rwhp bone stock. My viper put down 410 rwhp and 465 rwt on the same exact dyno bone stock...
Thats a 111 rwhp and 155 rwt differance. Basicly I would have needed to add a 100 wet shot to the C5 to make it dyno like the Viper.
I dont know how else to explain it.....
I spent THOUSANDS of dollars to make my C5 go from dynoing 299 rwhp and 309 rwt to 378 rwhp and 370 rwt...Yea my combo would be considered a mild combo but hey I spent 50 grand on the Corvette and was scared to ruin it like the supercharged camaro I had before that blew up..
-bone stock LS6 heads ( good head for the price)
-224/224 .563 at 112 ( dropped me a solid 1/2 second at the drag strip)
-Vararam air intake( one tenth lost)
-no cats ( another tenth lost)
-no mufflers ( a solid 2 tenths lost)
-160 degree thermo ( great for optimizing power between runs)
I did these mods and put down 378 rwhp. For a auto I thought the numbers were pretty good for a mild/safe set up..I actually dynoed higher than most people. I here lots of stories of people hitting 400 rwhp on LS1's. But Ive never seen a NA one do it yet. So yea I was proud of my 378 rwhp..
BUT IMAGINE MY MOUTH DROPPING WHEN THE BONE STOCK VIPER PUT DOWN 410 RWHP AND 465 RWT. And I paid less for the 99 Viper than I did for the 04 Vette.
But hey Im an honest guy..410 rwhp and 465 rwt looks awesome on paper..
-but .55 coefficient drag for the Viper vrs .32 for the C5z06
-3390 pounds for the Viper vrs 3170 pounds for the z06
-3.07 gears for the viper vrs 3.42 M12 gears for the c5Z06
So even though the gen 2 Viper will dyno 60 rwhp more than a C5Z06 and 115 rwt higher as well..Because of weight gearing and areodynamics, The Viper is only around 3 tenths quicker in the 1/4 mile on average..
12.4 at 116 for a well driven C5Z06 on average
VRS
12.1 at 119 for a well driven viper on average
They both can and have gone much faster bone stock by the best drivers out their. But the point Im trying to make is that Im not trying to brag about the dyno numbers. I know what the Viper can and cant do
Originally Posted by Mens Rea
460rwtq...I don't know about that one....
Originally Posted by Killemall
Hey im not trying to stert anything..My car is a rt 10..It weighs 3390 pounds. In the best case senario with the hard top off and the rear window out with a 1/4 tank of gas im still gonna be around 3300 pounds..
410 rwhp and 3300 pounds is not a big deal in the real world. I no the car isnt a monster. i just like camaro's vettes and vipers.
I was just taking up for the Viper because someone said it was over rated...Too me 410 rwhp is still respectable for anything bone stock. And 465 rwt is more than the C6Z06 will put down.
The 99 C5 and 99 Viper were competitors...Back then their was no Z06. Now my c5 was a 2004..But it is a 99% copy of the 99 c5 minus the LS6 intake in such that barely maked a 3 rwhp differance...
Point is..My C5 put down 299 rwhp and 310 rwhp bone stock. My viper put down 410 rwhp and 465 rwt on the same exact dyno bone stock...
Thats a 111 rwhp and 155 rwt differance. Basicly I would have needed to add a 100 wet shot to the C5 to make it dyno like the Viper.
I dont know how else to explain it.....
I spent THOUSANDS of dollars to make my C5 go from dynoing 299 rwhp and 309 rwt to 378 rwhp and 370 rwt...Yea my combo would be considered a mild combo but hey I spent 50 grand on the Corvette and was scared to ruin it like the supercharged camaro I had before that blew up..
-bone stock LS6 heads ( good head for the price)
-224/224 .563 at 112 ( dropped me a solid 1/2 second at the drag strip)
-Vararam air intake( one tenth lost)
-no cats ( another tenth lost)
-no mufflers ( a solid 2 tenths lost)
-160 degree thermo ( great for optimizing power between runs)
I did these mods and put down 378 rwhp. For a auto I thought the numbers were pretty good for a mild/safe set up..I actually dynoed higher than most people. I here lots of stories of people hitting 400 rwhp on LS1's. But Ive never seen a NA one do it yet. So yea I was proud of my 378 rwhp..
BUT IMAGINE MY MOUTH DROPPING WHEN THE BONE STOCK VIPER PUT DOWN 410 RWHP AND 465 RWT. And I paid less for the 99 Viper than I did for the 04 Vette.
But hey Im an honest guy..410 rwhp and 465 rwt looks awesome on paper..
-but .55 coefficient drag for the Viper vrs .32 for the C5z06
-3390 pounds for the Viper vrs 3170 pounds for the z06
-3.07 gears for the viper vrs 3.42 M12 gears for the c5Z06
So even though the gen 2 Viper will dyno 60 rwhp more than a C5Z06 and 115 rwt higher as well..Because of weight gearing and areodynamics, The Viper is only around 3 tenths quicker in the 1/4 mile on average..
12.4 at 116 for a well driven C5Z06 on average
VRS
12.1 at 119 for a well driven viper on average
They both can and have gone much faster bone stock by the best drivers out their. But the point Im trying to make is that Im not trying to brag about the dyno numbers. I know what the Viper can and cant do
410 rwhp and 3300 pounds is not a big deal in the real world. I no the car isnt a monster. i just like camaro's vettes and vipers.
I was just taking up for the Viper because someone said it was over rated...Too me 410 rwhp is still respectable for anything bone stock. And 465 rwt is more than the C6Z06 will put down.
The 99 C5 and 99 Viper were competitors...Back then their was no Z06. Now my c5 was a 2004..But it is a 99% copy of the 99 c5 minus the LS6 intake in such that barely maked a 3 rwhp differance...
Point is..My C5 put down 299 rwhp and 310 rwhp bone stock. My viper put down 410 rwhp and 465 rwt on the same exact dyno bone stock...
Thats a 111 rwhp and 155 rwt differance. Basicly I would have needed to add a 100 wet shot to the C5 to make it dyno like the Viper.
I dont know how else to explain it.....
I spent THOUSANDS of dollars to make my C5 go from dynoing 299 rwhp and 309 rwt to 378 rwhp and 370 rwt...Yea my combo would be considered a mild combo but hey I spent 50 grand on the Corvette and was scared to ruin it like the supercharged camaro I had before that blew up..
-bone stock LS6 heads ( good head for the price)
-224/224 .563 at 112 ( dropped me a solid 1/2 second at the drag strip)
-Vararam air intake( one tenth lost)
-no cats ( another tenth lost)
-no mufflers ( a solid 2 tenths lost)
-160 degree thermo ( great for optimizing power between runs)
I did these mods and put down 378 rwhp. For a auto I thought the numbers were pretty good for a mild/safe set up..I actually dynoed higher than most people. I here lots of stories of people hitting 400 rwhp on LS1's. But Ive never seen a NA one do it yet. So yea I was proud of my 378 rwhp..
BUT IMAGINE MY MOUTH DROPPING WHEN THE BONE STOCK VIPER PUT DOWN 410 RWHP AND 465 RWT. And I paid less for the 99 Viper than I did for the 04 Vette.
But hey Im an honest guy..410 rwhp and 465 rwt looks awesome on paper..
-but .55 coefficient drag for the Viper vrs .32 for the C5z06
-3390 pounds for the Viper vrs 3170 pounds for the z06
-3.07 gears for the viper vrs 3.42 M12 gears for the c5Z06
So even though the gen 2 Viper will dyno 60 rwhp more than a C5Z06 and 115 rwt higher as well..Because of weight gearing and areodynamics, The Viper is only around 3 tenths quicker in the 1/4 mile on average..
12.4 at 116 for a well driven C5Z06 on average
VRS
12.1 at 119 for a well driven viper on average
They both can and have gone much faster bone stock by the best drivers out their. But the point Im trying to make is that Im not trying to brag about the dyno numbers. I know what the Viper can and cant do
12.4 at 116 for a well driven C5Z06 on average
VRS
12.1 at 119 for a well driven viper on average
VRS
12.1 at 119 for a well driven viper on average
Originally Posted by smokin00ss
Hey JB I only made 525rwtq because my car is a 2000. So that means I have the LS1 intake not the ls6. And I have EGR still. Also I still have the stock exhaust manifolds and the stock ypipe too. Kinda sucks. Iam leaving at least 40 to 50 rwhp on the table with just those two mods. Even though I have a cam iam not quite taking full advantage off it yet.
Originally Posted by Killemall
I dont know how else to explain it.....
I spent THOUSANDS of dollars to make my C5 go from dynoing 299 rwhp and 309 rwt to 378 rwhp and 370 rwt...Yea my combo would be considered a mild combo but hey I spent 50 grand on the Corvette and was scared to ruin it like the supercharged camaro I had before that blew up..
-bone stock LS6 heads ( good head for the price)
-224/224 .563 at 112 ( dropped me a solid 1/2 second at the drag strip)
-Vararam air intake( one tenth lost)
-no cats ( another tenth lost)
-no mufflers ( a solid 2 tenths lost)
-160 degree thermo ( great for optimizing power between runs)






