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Old 10-30-2006 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
The cooling mods are only going to keep your Eaton from heatsoaking, its not going to make it more safe on an otherwise stock car. There are hundreds of guys making serious hp without the HE and reservoir. Lol, but if and when you do want them let me know...
Correct. My coolant reservoir is stock. IMO, upgrading it is pointless unless
you plan on running ice at the track. Adding more volume does nothing
really since you're just moving more of the same hot fluid. The LFP
and PFAB intercooler reservoirs are too small to make an impact if
filled with ice. It'll melt before you get to the water box. You need a
5 to 10lb reservoir if you really want to make a difference in IAT2's.
There are plenty Cobras out there running deep 10's on the stock reservoir.

You can do the LDC cooling mod, even though I haven't.
Old 10-30-2006 | 06:48 PM
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R U serious? or joking?
why would you think im joking?
Old 10-30-2006 | 07:08 PM
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Old 10-30-2006 | 07:27 PM
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^ Why's an S2000 rice? S2000's are pretty nice IMO, I know on a domestic board anything not Ford or Chevy is rice, but they are definitely not rice. I dont know why people call imports "rice" the term rice is for ricers which is for cars that have ridiculous mods that do nothing. Id take an S2K over a Z28 anyday of the week (except an SS which I like) Its hard to beat an S2K in the handling department if your into that.
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
Its hard to beat an S2K in the handling department...
It's hard to beat a go-kart in the handling department as well, but you
wouldn't catch me pimping one.
Old 10-30-2006 | 10:25 PM
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s2000

Nah, not at all. there nice cars
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I get annoyed when some1 blurt's dumb **** about something that they probaly have never drove......Those s2000's are very nice for what they are... stock, they aren't anything to worry about however, a full bolt on s2000 w/ sc (my friend has 1) can run high 11's & put down 475hp & has potential for more power.....that's pretty impressive to me for being a 4 banger, also they handle very very well, are reliable & get great gas mileage. fwiw
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Originally Posted by 1999 SS
why would you think im joking?
because it is a very common topic with 4V's......I was trying to be a jerk. I was seriously wondering.
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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
I get annoyed when some1 blurt's dumb **** about something that they probaly have never drove......Those s2000's are very nice for what they are... stock, they aren't anything to worry about however, a full bolt on s2000 w/ sc (my friend has 1) can run high 11's & put down 475hp & has potential for more power.....that's pretty impressive to me for being a 4 banger, also they handle very very well, are reliable & get great gas mileage. fwiw

I totally agree, matter of fact there is a guy on the S2K board right now that has a couple vids of his Turbo S2K vs a Nitrous TA and a C6 Vette, and he kills them pretty good. We used to have an 03 S2K and that thing was pretty fun to drive, obviously it isnt going to compare powerwise to an LS1 or whatnot, but it wasnt made for that.
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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
I get annoyed when some1 blurt's dumb **** about something that they probaly have never drove......Those s2000's are very nice for what they are... stock, they aren't anything to worry about however, a full bolt on s2000 w/ sc (my friend has 1) can run high 11's & put down 475hp & has potential for more power.....that's pretty impressive to me for being a 4 banger, also they handle very very well, are reliable & get great gas mileage. fwiw
Personally I have nothing against the S2000 and for the type of audience its aimed at its very good.

However, 475hp (do you mean flywheel or rw?) I very much doubt using a superchrager and pump fuel. A turbo setup yeah, but that would still be pretty radical.
Old 10-31-2006 | 09:59 AM
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Machs and Cobra used the same cams? I assumed slightly different profiles to allow for the compression differences and FI on the Cobra. Very interesting.
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
Personally I have nothing against the S2000 and for the type of audience its aimed at its very good.

However, 475hp (do you mean flywheel or rw?) I very much doubt using a superchrager and pump fuel. A turbo setup yeah, but that would still be pretty radical.
I made 469rwhp on pump and very low boost??? I am turbo but with the right amout of boost on the s/c it can be done.
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
I totally agree, matter of fact there is a guy on the S2K board right now that has a couple vids of his Turbo S2K vs a Nitrous TA and a C6 Vette, and he kills them pretty good. We used to have an 03 S2K and that thing was pretty fun to drive, obviously it isnt going to compare powerwise to an LS1 or whatnot, but it wasnt made for that.
where are you from???
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Originally Posted by Sparetire
Machs and Cobra used the same cams? I assumed slightly different profiles to allow for the compression differences and FI on the Cobra. Very interesting.

Yep....Terminators/machs/5.4L navigator and expedition all have the same cams. They used them for the TQ. The heads are the same in the two 4V 03/04 281s. The difference in CR is strictly on the Piston side. Rods and pistons are different.
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Originally Posted by BLACKTURBOS2K
I made 469rwhp on pump and very low boost??? I am turbo but with the right amout of boost on the s/c it can be done.
What do you consider low boost? And what SCR are you running?

What octane fuel?

Any chance of posting the dyno graph. Was it SAE corrected? And what type of Dyno? Do you have any other mods apart from the turbo?

Sorry for all the questions, but with a decent (read not basic or low boost) turbo setup I can believe that sort of figure, but not with a blower. But think about it, the S2000 only has a 2.0 16v DOHC, nothing particulary different from an Evo or Cosworth.

Now even a stock 330bhp Evo is by no means tame and requires servicing every 6000 miles. You're claim of ~470rwhp is near 500bhp. That's an awful high state of tune (250bhp/litre).

Now I know it's possible, but I really don't believe its easy with a fully reliable/durable engine only running low boost. Either that or the horses used to measure the engine where more like Shetland ponies instead of Shire horses.

I mean if a 2003/4 Cobra was tuned to the same state it would be producing 1150bhp. Which is possible, but again not easy and really viable as an every day reliable setup.
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
Personally I have nothing against the S2000 and for the type of audience its aimed at its very good.

However, 475hp (do you mean flywheel or rw?) I very much doubt using a superchrager and pump fuel. A turbo setup yeah, but that would still be pretty radical.
475hp to the wheels on pump gas with a tune......His s2k is fast as **** and awesome to drive.
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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
......His s2k is fast as **** and awesome to drive.
You guys must be 5' tall or something. S2K's are so damned little.
Old 11-02-2006 | 10:46 AM
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S2000s since 03 are 2.2L. No longer 2.0. Longer stroke. They still call them S2000s. I would call them S2200s, but thats me.....
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ok didn't know that, although I though that they where still 2.0 here in the UK. But to be honest they don't really interest me so I've never looked.

How much HP does the 2.2 have stock, the UK 2.0 ones have 237bhp DIN (about 240bhp SAE Net)
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Originally Posted by unit213
You guys must be 5' tall or something. S2K's are so damned little.
LOL, I'm 5' 10" & u are right, they are small



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