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Old 11-02-2006, 11:25 PM
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It's hard to beat a go-kart in the handling department as well, but you
wouldn't catch me pimping one.
Could not have said it better myself. A S2000 against an 03-04 cobra, Are you ******* serious, maybe if the cobra had a couple of flat tires the s2000 would stand a chance. Other than that a piece of **** 4 banger racing a BLOWN cobra is a joke. NO **** the Cobra is going to win BY A COUPLE OF TITANIC SIZED BOAT LENGHTHS!!!! lol
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Nice kill man.

S2000's are a joke, they can't even keep up with 99-04 GT's.
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^ Haha think what you want, but when we had our 03 S I didnt lose to 1 99-04 GT. Hmm, lets see 20 hp less and what 600lbs lighter. I dont even remember how many I beat had to be 10+, it wasnt even fun anymore.
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
What do you consider low boost? And what SCR are you running?

What octane fuel?

Any chance of posting the dyno graph. Was it SAE corrected? And what type of Dyno? Do you have any other mods apart from the turbo?

Sorry for all the questions, but with a decent (read not basic or low boost) turbo setup I can believe that sort of figure, but not with a blower. But think about it, the S2000 only has a 2.0 16v DOHC, nothing particulary different from an Evo or Cosworth.

Now even a stock 330bhp Evo is by no means tame and requires servicing every 6000 miles. You're claim of ~470rwhp is near 500bhp. That's an awful high state of tune (250bhp/litre).

Now I know it's possible, but I really don't believe its easy with a fully reliable/durable engine only running low boost. Either that or the horses used to measure the engine where more like Shetland ponies instead of Shire horses.

I mean if a 2003/4 Cobra was tuned to the same state it would be producing 1150bhp. Which is possible, but again not easy and really viable as an every day reliable setup.
Low boost for me is 14lbs, thats what my waste gate spring is at. Pump gas is 93oct a/f never went into the 11.8s, it was about 11.5 all the way. I will post the dyno in a min. also, that is with the SAE smoothing.

also, it was 457rwhp, i was wrong. No matter, that was with a blown headgasket

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Originally Posted by unit213
You guys must be 5' tall or something. S2K's are so damned little.

nope, Im 6 foot and 200lbs
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Originally Posted by TransAminal
Nice kill man.

S2000's are a joke, they can't even keep up with 99-04 GT's.

you have no idea what you are talking about

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nice shut down
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Originally Posted by BLACKTURBOS2K
you have no idea what you are talking about
Another ricer buried in his own ignorance.

S2000's are a joke, paying $35K for an N/A 4 banger is retarded. They are even with 99-04 Mustang GT's, because the Mustang has this thing called TORQUE and it doesn't fall flat on its face when you try and launch. S2000's run low 14's in the 1/4, and 0-60 in about 5.7 seconds. Same as the 99-04 GT's.

Haha think what you want, but when we had our 03 S I didnt lose to 1 99-04 GT. Hmm, lets see 20 hp less and what 600lbs lighter. I dont even remember how many I beat had to be 10+, it wasnt even fun anymore.
You always have a story about how great some import was. Give it a rest, we know you're making it up anyway

600lbs doesn't mean jack **** when your car has the powerband of a sports bike and makes no torque and no power until 6K RPM. Get a clue.
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Originally Posted by BLACKTURBOS2K
nope, Im 6 foot and 200lbs
Still tiny to me my friend.
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Originally Posted by TransAminal
You always have a story about how great some import was. Give it a rest, we know you're making it up anyway

600lbs doesn't mean jack **** when your car has the powerband of a sports bike and makes no torque and no power until 6K RPM. Get a clue.
Wrong..........he gives feedback on S2000's CAUSE HE OWNED ONE!!!

I agree with your statement of 'no torque' however, I disagree with you 600 lbs doesnt' mean jack.......any advantage to TQ the stang has, is gone with it dragging the extra 600#....even with a better powerband.
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Originally Posted by TransAminal
S2000's are a joke, paying $35K for an N/A 4 banger is retarded.
No my friend, it's you that's retarded for only having the interlect of a boiled potato
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Originally Posted by TransAminal
Another ricer buried in his own ignorance.

S2000's are a joke, paying $35K for an N/A 4 banger is retarded. They are even with 99-04 Mustang GT's, because the Mustang has this thing called TORQUE and it doesn't fall flat on its face when you try and launch. S2000's run low 14's in the 1/4, and 0-60 in about 5.7 seconds. Same as the 99-04 GT's.



You always have a story about how great some import was. Give it a rest, we know you're making it up anyway


600lbs doesn't mean jack **** when your car has the powerband of a sports bike and makes no torque and no power until 6K RPM. Get a clue.
I have never lost to a 220hp GT, stock vs stock. So Im not sure what you are talking about. Your the one that looks like the RICE

We are on here talking about cars and every time some hick *** red neck, I ASSume this because you have a V8 and Im a ricer because I have a 4cly, will come on here and say something dumb. I have raced MANY V8s and have only lost 1 time, I missed 5th. And that was to a c6 vett with cam,I,H,E and a 175shot.
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Originally Posted by unit213
Still tiny to me my friend.

HA, damn. You a big guy. My friend is 6.5 and 275+ and can sleep in my car
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I think he refers stock vs. stock, the S2000 is extremly underpowered for the price......every magazine review had that as its main complaint, its almost ike a smaller acura NSX
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
No my friend, it's you that's retarded for only having the interlect of a boiled potato
Too bad you don't agree. Thats my opinion, deal with it. I think its retarded to pay 35K for a 4 banger, get over it and move along
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Originally Posted by BLACKTURBOS2K
I have never lost to a 220hp GT, stock vs stock. So Im not sure what you are talking about. Your the one that looks like the RICE

We are on here talking about cars and every time some hick *** red neck, I ASSume this because you have a V8 and Im a ricer because I have a 4cly, will come on here and say something dumb. I have raced MANY V8s and have only lost 1 time, I missed 5th. And that was to a c6 vett with cam,I,H,E and a 175shot.
You're such a dumb ricer that you don't even have a clue about the vehicle you are talking about. I said 99-04 Mustang GT, they have a 260HP 4.6L V8 with 302ft/lbs of torque. Not 220HP, if it had 220 obviously an S2000 would be faster.

Take your rice somewhere else, you can brag about how fast your car is, but its still just a gutless 4 banger that sounds like ***. Congrats, now stop talking about things you have no clue about.
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Originally Posted by BLACKTURBOS2K
I have never lost to a 220hp GT, stock vs stock. So Im not sure what you are talking about. Your the one that looks like the RICE

We are on here talking about cars and every time some hick *** red neck, I ASSume this because you have a V8 and Im a ricer because I have a 4cly, will come on here and say something dumb. I have raced MANY V8s and have only lost 1 time, I missed 5th. And that was to a c6 vett with cam,I,H,E and a 175shot.
so your only loss was to a h/c ls1?........so what did u race before bolt on/cam only cars, k/n &flowmaster cars?
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Originally Posted by TransAminal
You're such a dumb ricer that you don't even have a clue about the vehicle you are talking about. I said 99-04 Mustang GT, they have a 260HP 4.6L V8 with 302ft/lbs of torque. Not 220HP, if it had 220 obviously an S2000 would be faster.

Take your rice somewhere else, you can brag about how fast your car is, but its still just a gutless 4 banger that sounds like ***. Congrats, now stop talking about things you have no clue about.
YEP, your right. They are 260... I dont know whey I thought it was 220???

No matter, if you live near me we can run and you can listen to my little 4 banger, it just sounds like a jet I assume you have a VERY fast car, because you do talk alot of ****. Let me know if your down
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Originally Posted by GMmexican
so your only loss was to a h/c ls1?........so what did u race before bolt on/cam only cars, k/n &flowmaster cars?

I have raced a T/A with stall, cam, IHE and tires. A stock C6, C5 ZO6, and the other C6. I have also raced alot of Mustangs and Mach 1s.

Im not really sure how its hard to belive a car can be fast. With the right amount of $ anything can be fast. I ran a 11.3 @ 127 on bone stock street tires, 225-50-16 and I ran a 7.3 @ 101mph in the 1/8th
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Originally Posted by TransAminal
You're such a dumb ricer that you don't even have a clue about the vehicle you are talking about. I said 99-04 Mustang GT, they have a 260HP 4.6L V8 with 302ft/lbs of torque. Not 220HP, if it had 220 obviously an S2000 would be faster.

Take your rice somewhere else, you can brag about how fast your car is, but its still just a gutless 4 banger that sounds like ***. Congrats, now stop talking about things you have no clue about.
Right but they make about 220 rwhp, and are fat pigs...I can def see an s2k taking a 99-04 GT from a roll. From a dead stock the mustangs gearing and torque will matter a whole lot more, but from a roll id give the nod to the s2k. I know there are fast 99-04 GT's out there and on this board, but stock, especially the autos, are rediculously slow. My best friend has an 02 auto GT and it could be the slowest V8 powered car ever...


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