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Old 12-06-2006, 08:43 PM
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I read somewhere, don't know how true this is, that Ford called it the "Terminator" because they had so much problems with earlier SVT cars blowing up (engines) so they made this new engine with some stronger internal stuff so it would hold up to some major forced induction. Therefore this new engine would "terminate" any problems potential speed enthusiast would have.

Again, I can't remember were I read this at, so I have no idea how true it is. But it sounds good riiiiiiiiiiiight?
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Originally Posted by VTC_WS6
I'm sure I could make this a really drawn out thing, but I'll keep it short and sweet. The Firechicken suffered an untimley demise last Sept. with a case of the "knock".. 14 months and 1 new short block later, it's alive and well. I've gotten to taking it out every weekend now for the past month after working out some minor bugs, but all and all it's running fairly well, not tuned to perfection yet, but not too shabby I guess.

Anyways, I'm out and about running around the Ft. Myers area of SW Fla doing a little datalogging when I was spotted by a fella I'd run into some time before. I ended up hanging around wih him and some freidns since they know the area, and aended up at some Home Depot in the middle of BFE along with a few Mustangs, Civic, rice, the usual. Night was drawing to and end for me but I decided to be bold enough to try out a yellow '04 Cobra that had been hanging around. I couldn't get a straight answer as to it's mods, something along the lines of an intake, exahusta and lower pulley. Long story short (too late!), we ended up trying it out from a 40-roll.

Although we nailed it door to door, I did take a pretty solid lead on the hit getting maybe half a car off the bat, throw 3rd and I keep him hanging around my quarter panel, blower screaming in my ear all the merry way. Toss 4th and it was only maybe 3-4 seconds before he finally let off hanging around 1 car back and that was it. Not too impressive a kill I know, but after over a year of driving a 100hp Civic, I'll take a kill on a scooter for a quick fix

Anyways, more fun to come with a few new toys and a final tune on the horizon.

Good run and kill on a fast Ford.
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Originally Posted by rk_2000_Z/28
I read somewhere, don't know how true this is, that Ford called it the "Terminator" because they had so much problems with earlier SVT cars blowing up (engines) so they made this new engine with some stronger internal stuff so it would hold up to some major forced induction. Therefore this new engine would "terminate" any problems potential speed enthusiast would have.

Again, I can't remember were I read this at, so I have no idea how true it is. But it sounds good riiiiiiiiiiiight?
I've read this too, but I'd also buy the "terminates F-bodies" story as well. Those cars deserve the name.
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all i can say is shut those fords downnn
Old 12-09-2006, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Trans Am Dawg
all i can say is shut those fords downnn
Kudos to that!!!
Old 12-09-2006, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Genesis_26317
Kudos to that!!!
Ummm...wrong context.
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Here's the video of the '03 Cobra being Reviewed by Car and Driver, John Colleti, the head of SVT, is interviewd and uses the "terminator" name to imply that it terminates all discussion about which pony car is supreme.


Good vid regardless if you're a Ford or Chevy guy

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...82678259197538
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Wikipedia also agrees with one of the claims I made earlier, although any one of the reasons sound legitimate.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia
While in production, SVT had codenamed this model the "Terminator" since it was supposed to finally put an end to any competition between the Cobra and the Trans Am / Camaro. The 2003-2004 SVT is noted by many for offering good "bang for the buck". Owners are reporting as much as 750 hp (559 kW) at the rear wheels with the use of a 2.3L Whipple or 2.2L/2.4L Kenne Bell supercharger and increased boost pressure. Even with minor "bolt-on" mods, Terminator Cobras have been known to exceed 500 hp (373 kW).
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I thought the Cobra was competition for the Corvette?

I mean the freakin' Cobra costs like what 10k more than a base Z28 (base is sorta heavily optioned on a Z28).

I mean the SS was WAY overpriced, and the SC one was like 15k more wasn't it? 37k for a car with a hood (the 35th vert's).

I mean the base Z28 had almost all the options it really needed to still be called a loaded car (unlike a freakin' neon or cavalier). Hell Celica's don't even come with ABS if I remember).

I mean a terminator come on??? The regular Cobra was already pretty much a contender/match. Plus its engine was tougher than a LS1 build wise.
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Originally Posted by wrxpeed
Its the Code name that Ford gave it while they were in the concept state. "Terminator" supposedly refers to a few things; It was the last of the Fox Chassis, Highest HP Mustang of all time, and the Mustang name outlived the Camaro/Firebird and "terminated" it.

Nice kill!

Very vivid imagination!!! It was not the highest HP Mustang of all time though...

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Originally Posted by Packy
Nice kill!

Very vivid imagination!!! It was not the highest HP Mustang of all time though...
At the time it was highest horsepower Mustang that Ford ever produced, even more than the '01 Cobra R. Now the Shelby GT500 takes the crown.
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Originally Posted by wrxpeed
At the time it was highest horsepower Mustang that Ford ever produced, even more than the '01 Cobra R. Now the Shelby GT500 takes the crown.
I wasn't referring to the new Shelby. I seem to remember that the '68 427ci with 4bbl had around 390 hp or so and were grossly underrated...
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Originally Posted by Packy
I wasn't referring to the new Shelby. I seem to remember that the '68 427ci with 4bbl had around 390 hp or so and were grossly underrated...
Wasn't the hp ratings done differently then. If I remember right it was the hp of the motor at the flywheel without any accessories attached. Our numbers are a little more conservative now. I could be wrong, this is just something I heard once.

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someday the firechickens shal come back. equipped with the ls12 =D who knows...year 2015 maybe?!
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Originally Posted by unit213
I'd be happy to show you.

Nice kill!
oh , ain't you just bad to the bone.
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Originally Posted by jbs02somws6
Cool stuff, I've wondered where the name came from too. I just figured that "Terminator" referred to the fact that cobras could easily crush every other car on the road, even zo6's, with just a few simple bolt-on's. I've considered selling my ws6 for a cobra....expect I couldn't live w/o SOM.
are you for real?
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Originally Posted by hunterdawgs
oh , ain't you just bad to the bone.
It was a joke. But yes, I absolutely would "terminate" his car...
and yours.
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Originally Posted by unit213
It was a joke. But yes, I absolutely would "terminate" his car...
and yours.
Dam I wish my car would terminate a modded C5.
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Originally Posted by unit213
It was a joke. But yes, I absolutely would "terminate" his car...
and yours.
do you know me? Where ya from?Don't let the mods in the sig fool ya. If I could ever get the boys to finish the ZO6 I'd be glad to race that bad Blown snake with my N/A vette. I hope you can put all that power to the ground.Not much good if ya can't.
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Originally Posted by hunterdawgs
I hope you can put all that power to the ground.Not much good if ya can't.
28" slicks + a built solid axle.



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