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Old 01-09-2007, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverStang00
+1, from what I have seen 99/01 Cobras are really close to Machs, which in turn are really close to an LS1. 99/01 Snakes can beat an LS1 on the street for sure.
Not around here. Definetly 03/04 cobra's, but not the eariler models. Especially not if stock against stock.
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Originally Posted by Phil8616
uhh, no....sorry.

They weigh more, and put down less to the wheels, maybe your getting it confused with an 03/04?

UM...sorry...yes they can. he said beat on the street........99/01 snakes are mid 13s, and some low 13s..and they do NOT weigh more. They weigh ~50 pounds more than a Mach...cause of the IRS. That's it.
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Originally Posted by Ericbigmac83
Which of your cars should be in the low 12's??

The AB mach.........Why?
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
UM...sorry...yes they can. he said beat on the street........99/01 snakes are mid 13s, and some low 13s..and they do NOT weigh more. They weigh ~50 pounds more than a Mach...cause of the IRS. That's it.
Great, LS1s are mid to low 13s, some 12s? whats your point, show proof then. An overrated car from the factory weighing more and putting less down less than LS1 doesnt add up to beating an LS1 on the streets where they shine up top.
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My friend used own a 99 cobra with intake, exhaust, gears, and a few other goodies, he never got out of the 13's and hes a damn good driver, he ran a 11.7 with the same car after he dropped an 03 motor (full exhaust, intake, 3.90 gears, tune, 3" pulley) in it. The 99-01 cobras arent much and even the mach makes better power than it.

An EVO modded would have no problem with beating it.
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Originally Posted by Phil8616
Great, LS1s are mid to low 13s, some 12s? whats your point, show proof then. An overrated car from the factory weighing more and putting less down less than LS1 doesnt add up to beating an LS1 on the streets where they shine up top.
you forgot gearing. factor in the fact that anything can happen on the street. apparently you've never seen an M6 LS1 run a 15 at the track. anything can happen with a bad driver.
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Originally Posted by EVO 9
i only run 20psi when im out driving around, if im out to race i turn it up a little and add some torco.
and john dont you mean my Evo? whats this i hear about rodgers car being repoed?
Sorry I meant Evo Either way your Evo is impressive
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na man i have 18 inch chrome cobra rims on mine....
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01gtmustang, does your car have black saleens on it? Are you on IndyHP?
Old 01-09-2007, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by brad8266
My friend used own a 99 cobra with intake, exhaust, gears, and a few other goodies, he never got out of the 13's and hes a damn good driver, he ran a 11.7 with the same car after he dropped an 03 motor (full exhaust, intake, 3.90 gears, tune, 3" pulley) in it. The 99-01 cobras arent much and even the mach makes better power than it.

An EVO modded would have no problem with beating it.
Apparently not. And IF he is, then there was something SERIOUSLY wrong with that car. Cuz that would be over 300rwhp probably, with gears. Definitely capable of twelves.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Apparently not. And IF he is, then there was something SERIOUSLY wrong with that car. Cuz that would be over 300rwhp probably, with gears. Definitely capable of twelves.
He didnt have headers though and now that I think i dont think he installed the gears till he did the motor swap, thats my bad. He probably had around 300HP with that heavy *** car. Trust me hes a damn good driver. The pre 03 cobras are just not that fast.
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Originally Posted by Electric
Boost has nothing to do with that. I meant CA has 91 **** octane. Im used to 93 where the EVO IX's can run 23-24psi all day. That cant happen on 91.

actually with the proper tune we are running 23psi on 91 octane,though im not sure about 24psi,I run a modest 22psi on my 9
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Where the hell do you guys get that the 99/01 cobra's are heavy?....please tell me this. The N/A new edges are ONLY ~50 pounds more than a mach...CAN YOU NOT READ?

As for OVER RATING..that was the 99 PRE FIX cobra's......post fixes and 01s are genuine 310-320 HP cars...from the factory. THEY DYNO ABOUT THE SAME AS A MACH!!!! MAYBE 10 less RWHP. Which will vary due to hand built motors and varied timing.


GAWD there is ALOT of mis informed people on here about stangs.

sheesh.
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Originally Posted by noah98SS
actually with the proper tune we are running 23psi on 91 octane,though im not sure about 24psi,I run a modest 22psi on my 9

Yeah 24 works on 93
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
Where the hell do you guys get that the 99/01 cobra's are heavy?....please tell me this. The N/A new edges are ONLY ~50 pounds more than a mach...CAN YOU NOT READ?

As for OVER RATING..that was the 99 PRE FIX cobra's......post fixes and 01s are genuine 310-320 HP cars...from the factory. THEY DYNO ABOUT THE SAME AS A MACH!!!! MAYBE 10 less RWHP. Which will vary due to hand built motors and varied timing.


GAWD there is ALOT of mis informed people on here about stangs.

sheesh.
I stand corrected on the weight, 99 cobra= 3285, Pre/Post fix doesnt mean much because not everyone took their car back to get the extra HP added anyway.

Most of us arent Mustang experts, sorry. This is an LS1 site right? One thing Im surely not misinformed about: Mustang=Slow
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The 99 cobra's were actually dogs the 98 and 01 are very close to mach 1s. THe 99 was only putting out about 200 to the wheels cause of the problems they had. I have 5 friends with 98s and they all put down like 260 to to 27o stock and over 400 with superchargers. The 98 is one of the best blocks ford made but only puts out like 315 or so in hp but they love boost.
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
you forgot gearing. factor in the fact that anything can happen on the street. apparently you've never seen an M6 LS1 run a 15 at the track. anything can happen with a bad driver.
Correct anything can happen on the street, Ive seen 03/04 Cobra's run 14s? so what? The original post stated that an 99/01 Cobra would beat an LS1 for sure. Thats like saying that an 03 Mach 1 will beat an LS1 for sure and we all know how long that argument went on. The point is its a drivers race with the edge to the f-body/LS1 in this case.
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Originally Posted by Phil8616
Correct anything can happen on the street, Ive seen 03/04 Cobra's run 14s? so what? The original post stated that an 99/01 Cobra would beat an LS1 for sure. Thats like saying that an 03 Mach 1 will beat an LS1 for sure and we all know how long that argument went on. The point is its a drivers race with the edge to the f-body/LS1 in this case.
no he didn't. you just completely misunderstood the post. here is the post you are referring to:

Originally Posted by SilverStang00
+1, from what I have seen 99/01 Cobras are really close to Machs, which in turn are really close to an LS1. 99/01 Snakes can beat an LS1 on the street for sure.
as you can see, he said 99/01 cobras CAN beat an LS1 on the street for sure. while most of the time they will lose, they surely CAN beat an LS1 f-body. if a 99/01 cobra, stock, were to race a stock LS1 f-body 10 times, they'd probably win at least one race. no one ever said the cobra was faster all the time, or that the cobra was on the average a faster car. what the person said was that the cobra could surely win in a street race where anything can happen. pit the cobra against a 2.73 geared A4, bone stock, and it has a decent chance.
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Originally Posted by black04z71
The 99 cobra's were actually dogs the 98 and 01 are very close to mach 1s. THe 99 was only putting out about 200 to the wheels cause of the problems they had. I have 5 friends with 98s and they all put down like 260 to to 27o stock and over 400 with superchargers. The 98 is one of the best blocks ford made but only puts out like 315 or so in hp but they love boost.
Well anybody that took their "faulty" '99s in, makes just as much power as the '01s
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Originally Posted by black04z71
The 99 cobra's were actually dogs the 98 and 01 are very close to mach 1s. THe 99 was only putting out about 200 to the wheels cause of the problems they had. I have 5 friends with 98s and they all put down like 260 to to 27o stock and over 400 with superchargers. The 98 is one of the best blocks ford made but only puts out like 315 or so in hp but they love boost.

WOW.,....um, no they did not dyno (200).....240-250. The fix was reflash, exhaust, intake (and one more thing I forget though).

And I do agree, that not all 99s had teh fix....we will never know exactly how many got it, unforutnately.

BTW - teh teksid block was used up to 01.........that was the same casting as the 98. The problem with the 98s are they heads. they dont' flow as nice, and the cams as well....and, yep..they love boost.
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Originally Posted by brad8266
I stand corrected on the weight, 99 cobra= 3285, Pre/Post fix doesnt mean much because not everyone took their car back to get the extra HP added anyway.

Most of us arent Mustang experts, sorry. This is an LS1 site right? One thing Im surely not misinformed about: Mustang=Slow
If you aren't mustang experts, why act like you are? I don't come in here talking about LS1s like I am an expert, and I dont' do it on stang boards. If I dont' know..I dont' talk ****..it's that simple.

ANd sorely, you are misinformed that Mustang = Slow.



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