Is my A4 really that bad in roll races??? What do i need to do??
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Is my A4 really that bad in roll races??? What do i need to do??
Here's what i have run into this weekend, i ran a stock except for a cutout M6 WS6 from a roll about 55-60mph. We started almost dead even he got a slight jump and i hit it. We ran to about 90-100mph and i was BARELY pulling on him granted not that long of a run but i would have expected to pull more then that when i have a 3500 stall and my TA puts down 371rwhp and 384rwtq n/a.
Now tonight i run a stock down to the filter 02 A4 corvette, we went from the same speeds and i pulled away alittle better then i did on the WS6 but we kinda evened out when my car shifted then i started to pull away alittle again but had to shut down it seemed like to me the car fell outta the powerband or something when it shifted.
I figured i would fare better on both these races, i'm thinking i would need gears to counter this problem? I did have my cutout closed that might have made alittle difference too, but i wouldn't have thought that much if at all. I guess i just don't have the car setup correctly for the kinda runs i was doing.............
What do you guys think??? BTW it has 3.23 gearing in the back of it too.
Now tonight i run a stock down to the filter 02 A4 corvette, we went from the same speeds and i pulled away alittle better then i did on the WS6 but we kinda evened out when my car shifted then i started to pull away alittle again but had to shut down it seemed like to me the car fell outta the powerband or something when it shifted.
I figured i would fare better on both these races, i'm thinking i would need gears to counter this problem? I did have my cutout closed that might have made alittle difference too, but i wouldn't have thought that much if at all. I guess i just don't have the car setup correctly for the kinda runs i was doing.............
What do you guys think??? BTW it has 3.23 gearing in the back of it too.
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From my experience, I can say that a well driven A4 taken from a good shift point will put up a pretty good fight until you hit higher speeds especially with a higher stall. Thats where a nice M6 will start pulling away from you regardless. From a dig...its all A4 (stock for stock) A4s arent bad at all. Just learn where your car is the most powerful and take it from there.
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Originally Posted by shawnmce
From my experience, I can say that a well driven A4 taken from a good shift point will put up a pretty good fight until you hit higher speeds especially with a higher stall. Thats where a nice M6 will start pulling away from you regardless. From a dig...its all A4 (stock for stock) A4s arent bad at all. Just learn where your car is the most powerful and take it from there.
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Originally Posted by J E T
You sure that WS6 didn't have a 50 or a 100 shot? With your mods and his claimed "stock" besides a cutout, you should have pulled on him.
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Originally Posted by bene
Something just don't add up... Your car should pull the WS6 pretty hard if he really has only the cut out M6 or not... Either that or your car isn't running on its full potential.
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Originally Posted by 89tang
.... Like i said the only thing i noticed when the car shifted it would stop pulling then start pulling again.
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That's torque-management.... your timing plummets anywhere from 0deg into the area of retard then jumps back up high after the shift. It kills the engine's momentum. It's much more noticeable from the 2-3 shift VS. the 1-2 shift. Get your tuner to work on that. If you have HPT and wanna send me a file I can take some or all of that out for you and toss you a wicked A4 tune back...
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AHHHHHH frost i think you might have something. I remember scanning on my LS1m and the timing dropping down to 0* on every shift then climbing back up to normal. My tuner took my 99 pcm and put in 02 files so you probably can't edit mine either now. Which is why also i get a dumbass P0757 code now. Plus he needs to do some more tuning on my tranny i think, it shifts funky at part throttle vs. when it did with the 99 files in it that were modded. It also shift's kinda funky at WOT to now that i think of it.
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AHHHHHH frost i think you might have something. I remember scanning on my LS1m and the timing dropping down to 0* on every shift then climbing back up to normal. My tuner took my 99 pcm and put in 02 files so you probably can't edit mine either now. Which is why also i get a dumbass P0757 code now. Plus he needs to do some more tuning on my tranny i think, it shifts funky at part throttle vs. when it did with the 99 files in it that were modded. It also shift's kinda funky at WOT to now that i think of it.
I can look at it if you have HPT and can send me an image...
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Originally Posted by Frost
I can look at it if you have HPT and can send me an image...
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Another thing to think about is, with more power come less traction. These stock cars from a roll might be getting 100% traction. You might be spinning bad and not even know it. Just my.02.
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Originally Posted by SPRAYED 01
Another thing to think about is, with more power come less traction. These stock cars from a roll might be getting 100% traction. You might be spinning bad and not even know it. Just my.02.
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I tested the car again tonight vs. a 00 TA with headers and basically no exhaust and no tune what so ever. There is something wrong with my TA, i was actually getting pulled alittle this pisses me off.
How can the car make 371rwhp and run so crappy? Honestly i don't think it would even pull better times as it did with the smaller cam i had in it and it made 353rwhp running 12.7@110mph. Time for a call to someone to make this right........................
How can the car make 371rwhp and run so crappy? Honestly i don't think it would even pull better times as it did with the smaller cam i had in it and it made 353rwhp running 12.7@110mph. Time for a call to someone to make this right........................
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