Your HP doesn't matter in the sense that you have 4.10's. Mustangs love gears and I can see why you state you are beating f-bods and GTO's with that type of gearing. And I agree that 3v and 4v Mustangs don't get enough credit. I for one, love the 3v and 4v Mustangs. 2v Mustangs, as we all know, are pretty weak n/a. They need boost/juice and gearing to get them where they belong.

 

With a stock Fbod, you mean. Thats a fact.

 

Bolt-on for bolt-on they are damn close too bro. My friends 04 with catted xpipe, flowmasters, K&N filter, and 4.10s would run side by side with a 02 WS6 with o/r y, LM catback, lid, and a short throw shifter with my friend edging him out by 4th. Call me crazy, but that seems comparibly modded to me with the Mach having the gear advantage. So yeah they are close. Things go out the window when you start talking about cams and **** tho. You Fbod guys and your damn superior cubes lol.

 

tru it would be close. when i had a set of 4.56s on my 80 camaro w/ a 327 it was like unlocking a beast. and even with the 3.73s you see dramatic change in e.t. That is coming from a stock 3.23

 

That race I mentioned above was from 30 punch too by the way. The Mach had a passenger, the TA did not. And even with those mods the Mach did not break 300 rwhp. So that goes to show you that yeah LS1s have more power, but the Mach 1 can definitely hang when in capable hands.

 

i beat a new 06 gt w/ 4.10s, nittos, cai and a tune..........3 outta 4 times........i won 2 digs and a 20 roll........he won the last dig......jump out 2 cars...i started pulling him back in when i hit 4th but he let out........so i say BS on you mach beating every lsx you have ever raced

 

IMO that's not of equal mods. Gears do more for a car than I originally thought. Dug this up a 99 z28 with full exhaust and 4.10's v.s. a C6. The camaro takes him down 3 out of 4 for going from different speeds. Given the mach's gearing I think it's possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yAfmI8tJD4

 

That is JUST YOU. There are TONS of people with LSx cars that run high thirteens/low fourteens.

 

The only mod that you listed that provides any power for the ws6 is the lid, so he's about 10 rwhp over stock. If you want to go mod for mod give the ws6 some gears. What I really want to know is where the hell you guys are finding stock f-bods to race?

 

Like I said before, the only true test of which car is better is stock for stock. Any mods at all and you're only proving who got the best combo of parts. As for the SS only trapping @ 101, my pick up with the LS1 and stock 4.8 intake manifold, injectors and tuning ran a 101 and I was bounce off the top speed limiter the last 50'-60'! So that SS of his must of been one beaten puppy.

 

A catless midpipe and catback exhaust add no power? I highly doubt that a factory GM Ypipe with cats will outflow one without them, and same goes for the exhaust, no way it can't benefit from a Loudmouth. And even if it didn't 10 rwhp over stock is what 320-330rw? That is still 30 more horses to the ground than the Mach1. And just so you know all that stuff being aftermarket makes the car no longer stock because its not oem buddy . And yes I realize gears are a big mod, especially with Mustangs, but I posted that up as an example to all of you that dont beleive Machs can hang. I wish that TA would have had gears and my buddy would have raced him without me as a passenger (240 pounds), I think the Mach still would have won

 

lets just drop it this can go on forever.i have got the rest of my **** and going to install this weekend .tune will be next week.so are we saying that the intake spacer ,cai and a good tune (new plugs ang fuel filter need them anyway)i wont pick up 25 to 30 hp.cant wait to post a video this weekend,im going to find a lsx just because.

 

i ran a mach with a 125shot from a 20-25ish roll and still had 1.5-2 cars by about 100 or so(short street at the races). the thing is, he lied about his mods and told me all he had was a x pipe and cai..... now how in the world is a mach 1 with that going to keep up with a 480rwhp turbo LS1 from a roll
i had some buddies ask him later what he had done and still said the same. and i had 1 of his buddies tell me the truth and ratted him out and said he had a 125shot
now he wont race me with my new cam in the car.... i wonder why?

 

that is a fair race ,**** i would run a 150 shot .u can race my roomates 2003 gt and give u an *** beaten both have power adders, fair game

 

man, im surprisd how many people replied..lol. but yeah man, i mean 4 lengths seemed kinda iffy to me. maybe it might have been an A4 or so. but still an A4 shouldnt get beat that bad. i saw alot of people say gearing. what would u guys recommend for gearing for M6 and A4 for the street.. i always thought 4.10 for the M6 guys and 3.73 for the A4 guys.

 

Look, I love mustangs to, have an 02 gt, but mustang owners need to realize that It takes more than equal mods to beat an LSx. It can be done though. I have seen mid 12sec 2v n/a at the track. Another great mod other than gears is tires. I run 12.8-12.9 n/a with drag radials but still in the mid to low 13's with street tires. My car loves revs. No power until over 3700rpm. An LSx has tons of power at the low end. So with that being said, My mustang is alot harder to run in the 1/4 than my SS. After I learned to race with my 02 gt getting the SS in the 12's was easy----Stock----. I still think that the stang if more fun to drive, but not as fast. Keep up the rivalry

 

Yeah those ls1's are strong motors no dought about it.2.00 valves straight from the factory , I hope the new Camaros live up to the 98-02 ls1's.

 

most smart lsx drivers know the mach is = to a ls. just hate the ones that think they are rocket powered.the gt 2v needs alot of work my roomates runs low 11s

 

Were did you say You were noride??? Do you live in Va? Pembroke Pines, I know were that is here in Va. Maybe if you do live here, we will have to see how fast your ride is, That being said I am not saying it is slow. But I would like to see what all the fuss is about...

 

damn man, whats yur setup for that stang? i honestly like look of the 2v stangs over the new ones.