Stopsign32v

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305 Tbi Ftw!!!!!!!!!

Joezee

holy crap you sound like a ricer!!!!!!!!!!!

YOUR CAR IS NOT STOCK like you said....don't post bullshit.

86 305 has 100 less hp than an lt1 .....STOCK......

and then you post again defending 305s.....

maybe now your "fast"......unless you've added OVER 100hp your not wasting anybody.

Joezee

does anybody live near this 305 that "rapes lt1s bad" ???

considering that Ls1s don't "rape lt1s bad", your pushing what...400-500 hp ?

DON'T post bull and ruin a good thread.

darrensls1

Really? Because in your first post you said:

No mention of a stall here. Not that it would make much of a difference anyway.

You also said:

Umm, a 1986 Z28 would need a LOT more then gears to run with a 300 rwhp LS1. And why would anyone put gas on a car? To burn it and collect insurance?

Gears are not what's holding them back. The crappy 190 HP engine is.

Sure you did. Mid 14's by a car that runs what stock? Mid 15's maybe? So you dropped a full second with a converter and gears alone? Not likely. And I hope you meant the 1/4 and not the 1/2


And I bet you're still slow and only putting other slow cars in your rearview mirror. What's it run in the quarter now? low 13's?

And 86 Z28's came with 190 HP at the fly wheel. Your point is? 285-190=95 HP difference and that's not in your favor.

Perhaps you just stretched the truth a tad I believe your car should run mid to high 15's and trap in the low 90's (back when it was stock). A LT1 runs mid to low 14's and traps high 90's stock.

You need to get a video of your car running a 1/4 mile track. Watching you drive down some back road would tell us nothing about how fast or slow your car is.

CALL911

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This thread has turned from the decent argument to a rediculas one.

305 h.o.

Well i guess i cant defend my self with a 190hp engine. Going from a 2.73 gear to a 3.42 is a big step. 305's are sluggesh motors you are right but it's certian things that gm did to those motors to make them that slow. Not saying that im faster than all of these ls1's im not but i hav raced several lt1 cars and ive never lost to one. My car beats 04 GT's by 3 1/2 to 4 car length's every time and dont tell me they aint racing cause i have out ran a lot of them and they aint just watching me run by myself. Those cars run 14.1 stock with a good driver and i have some witnesses who are on this site that can vauge for that race. I built that motor in that car my self i know what it runs i know what it has out ran so no one on this site can tell me that im posting bull on here this is stuff that i have allready done, i have no reason to lie to any one. I thought this was a camaro site your acting like this is some ricer forum.

305 h.o.

I dont know what ls1's you have seen run but every one ive seen that ran a lt1 car has lost by more than 2 car lengths. There's stock ls1's running around here that went 13.2 on street tires then 12.8 on drag radials. You tell me if you have seen a lt1 car that broke 12's stock or even ran 13.5, hell they barley run 13.7 after putting a gear under it. And for the 190hp comments that's at the rear tires they started rating them at the flywheel after the late 80's. It makes around 240 hp to the flywheel. Look it up 1988 Iroc runs 15.2 at 88mph not 16's or 17's with a 305 in it the motor made 250hp the most hp for the 305 stock in the 80's. You guys are acting like you cant make these small block chevy motors run, i mean come on look at the 4.3, a V6 that motor runs damn good and the 283, 307, chevy dz 302, and a 305. I tell you what i had a 82 z28 with a cross fire 305 with a 2.73 gear and a Th350 trans only ran 10.6 in a 8th mile. Hell yea it was slow but i didnt know how to make it run. People ask me all the time why do i waste my time with a 305. My car runs damn good for a 305 most people dont believe that it has one in it they swear that im lieing. My last pass at the track i only had 1st and 2nd gear cause 700r4's are weak and it broke but i lined up with a s10 with a 350 in it i pulled this dude the whole way down the track cut a 2.15 60ft cause i have just a stock converter in it now let out at the 1,000 foot mark and still out ran this dude. 9.001 at 79mph thats letting out. Hey you aint got to believe me its all good.

305 h.o.

Ricer, funny
The car had a stock motor with a 2400 converter and a 3.42 gear.
raced a 96 black z28 heads up from a dead stop in a parking lot with a flagger and a croud of about 2,000 people. I out ran him by 2 CAR LENGTHS! I even talked to the guy afterwards. I defend chevy's and you guys asses so dont act like im some aragant dude on this site posting bull ****. Ive built these motors and i am a machanic of 5 years i know what im talking about. Hell im allways defending yall all that's around here is mustang lovers infact im buying a 99 or 00 model WS6 this year.

Camaro Fan

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Not to argue too much, but no they didn't. They were rated at the crank back then just like w/ the LT1s. The 350 TPIs were doing good to hit 190-200 hp at the rear wheels stock, the smaller cammed 305 TPIs and the H.O.s were significantly less powerful.

The hotter 305 5spds could maybe come close (close being with .5 second or so slower in the 1/4...), but they're not going to take out a LT1 that is driven well. My 86 IROC w/ the 190hp 305 TPI, with the addition of a mild cam, ported intake, headers, catback, 2200rpm stall, and 3.42s lost by 2-3+ cars in a run a little shorter than a 1/4 mile to my dead stock 94 Z28 LT1 A4 w/ 3.23s.

99Silverado5.3

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nb4

305 h.o.

I find your jokes amusing
I never said i raced a 300hp ls1 car read carefully
The timing on those engines was way to low by advancing the timing picks the car up a good bit. There's a formula for caculating your 8th time to get your quater time or 1/4 thanks for the correction.
Take your 8th time multiply it by 1.58 and it gives you your 1/4 time right around 3 tenths of your time.
SO 9.43 times 1.58 gives you 14.8-14.5 not 15.90's or mid to high 16's.
As the car sits now i only give it 13.6 to 13.7. I need to invest in a good stall and a holly carb some where aound 750cfm
Your off just a few tenths with that low 13's statment though close but no cookie.

burnzilla

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I dont even think you could beat a 3800 V6.

Get a timeslip, post a vid or bust

305 h.o.

Thanks for not being a *** whole
at least you show some respect for other chevy owners on here.
I dont know man, ive never lost a race to a lt1 car ever.
Thats when i was stock and right now. Last year i went to a local street race strip that we have down here. There was a 04 gt mustang and a friend of mine with a 97 ta lt1. They raced 4 times. The ta lost twice by juts a bumper each time and won twice by just a bumper. I raced the stang and out ran him by 3 1/2 to 4 cars. I talked to this guy afterwards and he said he ran 14.1 at the track. I dont know man my car aint the fastest thing on the street but it wont run in the 14's it's a mid to high 13 second car. If you build any motor right with the right parts and every matches up right you can make any thing run.

thebufenator

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Cars with torque but no horsepower will do well in the 1/8 but not in the 1/4.
Have you ever done the 1/4? How about a time-slip? Dyno graph?

305 h.o.

What ever man i have nothing to prove to you i know what my car runs you dont. I dont care what you think or say cause obviouslly you dont know any thing about racing to say some stupid stuff like this.

305 h.o.

Im dynoing the car in a few weeks. the only quater mile track around me is like 2 hours away and im not driving that far to run this car. So i just go to the 8th mile tracks. Since i have added all my mods to the motor every time i go to the track somthing brakes in the trans or i have fuel issues, its allways somehting. I ran a fox body stang in a street race here back in march of last year beat him by a car and a half. 302 was in it and it run 7.80's on the gas and 8.60 on the motor. For some reason my car just ran right that night i allso made him unhook the bottle.

99corvette

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I beleive you............you might have beat a lt1........but it was because the guy couldnt drive or launch his car. So dont play it off like you beat him because your car was faster, when you only beat him because he couldnt drive.

305 h.o.

How do you not know how to drive a auto matic.
Wait a minute this is more than one lt1 owner
so are you saying none of these lt1 owners couldnt drive.
STRANGE................
considering all you have to do is know how to mash the gas
and push the shifter foward.
Telling me that ive never out ran a lt1 car and my car is not faster is like standing in my face and trying with all your might to convience me that im white. Come on man make some since when you post these stupid comments.

CALL911

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Dude, do a search, you will get the same answers we have given you. There's just no way a stock LT1 would loose a race to a stock 3rd gen.

I started this thread stating that I believe that the LT1 is quicker than the LS1 0-60. But even I can admit the LT1 is no match for the LS1 the 2nd half of the quarter mile. The LT1 and LS1 is a much closer battle than a 3rd gen vs a 4th gen. Your car made decent torque, but had no HP even close to comparable with the LT1, hence there is just no way you could beet him in a full 1/4 mile race, ESPECIALLY if it was an auto. If it were a manual, then I might be able to give you some benefit of the doubt if the dude didn't know how to drive at all, but even if the auto you ran smoked his tires unit 30 MPH, he still would have ran you down before it was over.

If you want to proove your argument here, you will never do it by just saying you did. Show us an actual 1/4 mile time slip, or an actual video of your car vs an LT1.

305 h.o.

Your right, 9 times out of 10 you wont find a 3rd gen that will out run a lt1 car im not saying 3rd gens are faster. I had a 82 crossfire 305 camaro that lost to v6 firebirds and stuff it was a slug. My 86 was a snail to but an old gear head who built these small block chevy engines and big block showed how to make a 305 run with just a stock motor. I laughed at him when he told me that but he told me to change the gear and we jeted up the stock carb put a converter in it and advanced the timing way up. Yea no one is going to believe me with out a vid of my car running. Remember it was just a stock motor the rear end wasnt stock and it had a converter also. No bs ive never lost to a lt1 car.