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Old 02-09-2007, 10:18 PM
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I think every forum has a 25psi. the 1 troll that stands out.
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Originally Posted by jds99camaross
I think every forum has a 25psi. the 1 troll that stands out.
He is definitely the one.
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by slick1851
Plastic lol

Such a high class car( sarcasim)
The funny part of that attempted joke, is that from '97+, C5 Vettes are made out of a composite material very similar to ABS plastic
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Old 02-09-2007, 11:05 PM
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This thread is STILL unlocked???

I really don't care if a OEM 350z weighs 3050 or 3300 lbs. It will only see my tail lights continuously pull away, period.

They look like nice cars. Those who buy them for what they are could be satisfied. But the guy who thinks he can hang with my SS is a masochist.
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Originally Posted by Proud2bSS
This thread is STILL unlocked???

I really don't care if a OEM 350z weighs 3050 or 3300 lbs. It will only see my tail lights continuously pull away, period.

They look like nice cars. Those who buy them for what they are could be satisfied. But the guy who thinks he can hang with my SS is a masochist.
They are a really nice car IMO, in the fast department though they arent up there with my LS1. I still like them though.
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Old 02-10-2007, 12:17 AM
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Yeah I know this is quoting from the 1st page but I'm going to address it anyways.

Originally Posted by USA-1
I care, and so does anyone else with any common sense. Trap speed indicates the cars overall power and acceleration. After the launch, a WRX isn't going to feel or accelerate faster than any other cars that traps at 98MPH. And that isn't fast.
Over all power of what? Sure on the streets it might make a differece but like I said unless the NHRA changes it's rules the WRX is faster in the 1/4 mile. I mean come on man we are talking about the 1/4 mile race here.


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So you can get from point A to point B quickest.
Dude isn't that what drag racing is about? The fastest from point A to Point B?

Originally Posted by USA-1
You're car still isn't fast, its quick. The car is only as fast, power and acceleration wise, as its trap speed suggests.
You might want to do a search or rephase that. My car traps a lot higher then 98mph you can be sure of that.

Originally Posted by USA-1
Hence the reason why an LS2 GTO running 13.0 is a hell of lot faster than an STI running 13.0, even though they both cross the line at the same time. From a roll its domination, and nobody stops in the middle of the highway to try and race from a dig.
Quicker at what? 1/2 drag racing? Sure I'll give you that.

You know when people say trap speed is the true indicator of a car performance they mean what a car can run in the 1320. Trapping 120mph and running 14's shows the car is quick but the driver sucks. It's peoples way of ruling out crappy drivers. But for some reason you seem to think that trap speed is everything and because one car traps faster then another you can claim it's a faster car. On the street is one thing but at the track where it matters is another. You can trap 200mph but if the other car trapped 98mph and ran a faster 1/4 mile time you azz is on the trailer and on your way home.
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Old 02-10-2007, 12:32 AM
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^ that's why this is predominately a street-racing forum, which is why trap speed would among the leading indicators of a car's ability in a non-controlled enviroment.
If this sub-forum was primarily for drag-track, then absolutely no quarrel with the statement.

I remember thinking I was king of the world smacking a LS2 A4 GTO (bone stock) in the little STi I had (thing was great for just beating the snot out of an not giving a damn to its future). He came back and waved bye bye as the needle buried in the triple digits, where its clear and dominant power became evident.

Compared to ricers though, I'd bet going over 100 is a treat for them. However, after 130, you better not be impatient with it reaching higher speeds or youll be disappointed. It was a real struggle to get the STi to flirt at the limiter. I can say the exact same about stock EVO's as well.

Mathematically, the 1/4 mi. is intriguing. It's really a fantastic spot(for a vast chunk of street cars) where gearing, shifts, and traction can meet brute force head on. At greater distances, the larger power would almost certainly win, because all other factors would diminish in importance. At shorter distances, the other factors became very important.

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Old 02-10-2007, 12:42 AM
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One thing you have to say about those 350Z engines is that they are BIG!

So much engine and so little power. If only 3.5L of it is displacement, then what is taking up all of the rest of that space inside the block? Vtec?
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Old 02-10-2007, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by USA-1
Now there's a reliable source. The 350Z forum

Are you seriously retarded??

Directly from Nissanusa.com:

.....................................350Z Enth Tour Grand
Manual transmission...........3,339 3,346 3,400 3,404
Automatic transmission ..............3,344 3,380 3,391
Weight distribution.............53/47 53/47 53/47 53/47
EXACTLY!!
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Old 02-10-2007, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by slick1851
Might I add? BONE STOCK FBODIES have gone........12.9


Just thought I should add that, since were talking about extreme driving...

My car ON A CRAPPY STREET TIRE WENT, 13.2!

Im sure with a DR or a really nice wide summer tire, it would have been better
Here's a 12.9 stock f body....however it does have drag radials:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...slip-5249.html
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Old 02-10-2007, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
You are posting weights of 05+ 350z's. I've said 3 times already, 03 and 04's are lighter for some apparent reason.

I gave you a link of someone who weighed there car on a certified scale. What other proof do you need?

I dont know why mine was so light? Maybe becuase the rims I have are 19*11 in the rear and 19*9.5 in the front. They are Volk Racing, so they are lighter than stock. I think they weigh about 18lbs a piece. So that alone could save 70lbs. O, and I did take out the spare tire. That is the only weight modification I've done. I also have coilovers, which are lighter than stock, so I guess I save weight there.

So are you saying a certified scale is lying? Are you saying HRP is lying about the weight of our cars?
the 03-04's are lighter because of the horrible tire cupping issue's those Z's have....less tire, less weight.....
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Old 02-10-2007, 01:58 AM
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I saw a mr2 in the pic but it doesnt prove it is yours !! I can go to a garage with loads of cars snap some pics and claim all kind of crap. where is this vid of your car on the dyno or with you in it behind the wheel? Better yet a pic of you and an enzo with you behind the wheel? This wouldnt be an argument if you contributed anything to this forum besides arguments!
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Old 02-10-2007, 02:16 AM
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Just another fine day in the Street Racing Section of ls1tech.com
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Old 02-10-2007, 08:59 AM
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25 PSI gives us hours of entertainment. I disagree with about 95% of what he says but you have to admit some of the stuff he comes up with is funny - amusing to say the least. There should be a troll icon with with his picture on it!
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Old 02-10-2007, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by OKcruising
^ that's why this is predominately a street-racing forum, which is why trap speed would among the leading indicators of a car's ability in a non-controlled enviroment.
If this sub-forum was primarily for drag-track, then absolutely no quarrel with the statement.

I remember thinking I was king of the world smacking a LS2 A4 GTO (bone stock) in the little STi I had (thing was great for just beating the snot out of an not giving a damn to its future). He came back and waved bye bye as the needle buried in the triple digits, where its clear and dominant power became evident.

Compared to ricers though, I'd bet going over 100 is a treat for them. However, after 130, you better not be impatient with it reaching higher speeds or youll be disappointed. It was a real struggle to get the STi to flirt at the limiter. I can say the exact same about stock EVO's as well.

Mathematically, the 1/4 mi. is intriguing. It's really a fantastic spot(for a vast chunk of street cars) where gearing, shifts, and traction can meet brute force head on. At greater distances, the larger power would almost certainly win, because all other factors would diminish in importance. At shorter distances, the other factors became very important.
While we are in the street racing forum this thread isn't about that. It's about what 25psi said which was in the 1/4 mile a 350z would hang with an ls1. Then someone stated that the 350z would more of a challenge for an SRT-4 but not a WRX. The only reason I posted was to clear up the fact that the new WRX's are clearly fast in the 1/4 and are more of a challenge for the 350z then he thought.

I'll agree that in a top speed race the WRX falls behind a lot of cars but that doesn't make it a slow car. And I'll agree that some street cars perform better in the 1/4 mile then the car really has in it. But understand a lot lf manufactures build cars to perform well in those areas. So it's not uncommon to see a car perform well 0 to 60 or in the 1/4 mile because they were built fulling knowing they might be used for that and more importantly they would be tested and rated by those numbers.

But again, 13 second 1/4 mile at 98mph doesn't change the fact that the new WRX is still a 13 second car in stock form which is all I started in the beginning.
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Old 02-10-2007, 10:06 AM
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I agree with whats said above.

But how the **** is this thread still open?
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Old 02-10-2007, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
Here's a 12.9 stock f body....however it does have drag radials:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...slip-5249.html
That's a 2.73 A4 too...
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Originally Posted by 93transam
That's a 2.73 A4 too...
and he had a flowmaster so that hurts too.
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