New GTI kill by a third gen
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Originally Posted by FoxNotch
+1, theres no way around the 305 being a truck engine.
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Originally Posted by Street Lethal
Preston Smith's 305-TPI inspired '85 Iroc ran ten seconds with a Vortech S/C back in the early 90's, and went nine's running a single turbo. I know a few guys who run in the twelves with their naturally aspirated 305 daily drivers. No engine lacks performance when built right...
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Something's wrong with this thread, some posts appear missing. Anyways, here's the link regarding Preston Smith's 305 I-rocket....
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Hey this so far is better than my last street racing post. Thanks you guys. If you want to see a vid of me hanging with a 91 lx5.0 just let me know and i will try and get it on here.Its on my last post on the lt1 taken out by a thirdgen. Thanks again guys and i agree with the guy who said screw the haters.
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i would rather have the DZ302.. but i have had 3 thirdgens.. 1 with a 305.. and they "can" be made to make some power ... but all else bing equal.. my 355 TPI would make more with the same mods.. so.. oh well...
on a side note.. wasnt there a 99 or 98 LS1 in a magazine that some one made a 302 GEN III motor? seemed interesting..
on a side note.. wasnt there a 99 or 98 LS1 in a magazine that some one made a 302 GEN III motor? seemed interesting..
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Originally Posted by GR33N GoblinM6
and they "can" be made to make some power ... but all else bing equal.. my 355 TPI would make more with the same mods.. so.. oh well...
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Originally Posted by WRX-ERROR
So lets get this right. You pulled 1 1/2 cars from 50 to 80-90 on an LT1 that got the "jump" on you. And pulled 1 1/2 on a new GTi from 60 to 100. Right?
Your car stock..
1992 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 6.7 15.2
LT1 Stock.
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.1
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.3 13.8
GTi Stock.
2004 Volkswagen GTI 1.8t (manual) 6.5 15.2
2006 Volkswagen GTI 2.0t (manual) 0.0 14.9
I'm just wondering how a car that is a second faster then the GTi and got the jump on you manage to get beat by the same length over the same speed range.
Your car stock..
1992 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 6.7 15.2
LT1 Stock.
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.1
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.3 13.8
GTi Stock.
2004 Volkswagen GTI 1.8t (manual) 6.5 15.2
2006 Volkswagen GTI 2.0t (manual) 0.0 14.9
I'm just wondering how a car that is a second faster then the GTi and got the jump on you manage to get beat by the same length over the same speed range.
I'm sure this will lead to more **** talking speculation, but what is worse? Actually racing your car, relatively slow as it may be, or using data sheets to decide whether you win or not?
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Im not being a hater, but the 305 isnt a great motor really at all....Of course you can mod it and make it into somthing, but why?
Grab a 350, its pointless to bother with a 305 when 350s are that cheap....and make good power
Grab a 350, its pointless to bother with a 305 when 350s are that cheap....and make good power
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Originally Posted by craz1469
I bet it will ...considering I only have bolt ons and a small shot...... but at least you did admit that your car is a turd
Firstly.. You're gonna need a blower.
once that is accomplished... You will also need huge shot of nitrious.
once you are clearing AT LEAST 10's.. then, and only then, can you post a kill.
12's are no longer respectable among the titans!
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Originally Posted by Street Lethal
Again, there are 305's documented running sub ten seconds in the 1/4 mile (with power adder), while remaining totally streetable. There are plenty running in the 12's, and quite a few "touching" the elevens, naturally aspirated. I don't see how this can be considered some power, as it's all in the symmetry of the engine, any engine....
There are high 9sec tin can all motor hondas, also alot of 11sec all motor hondas.
Would I build one? Not really, anything can be built into somthing, its how much money, TIME, MODs its going to take you to get there
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No doubt the 305 is a weak performer. I believe bolt ons are a great way to get what you can out of it if you cannot afford a 350 variant yet, like 302eater.
Internally working over a 305 is a waste in most cases. Most cases.
I have owned many 305 vehicles and they are not performers, but have always been extremely reliable.
His crate plans of a 355 will be formidable.
Internally working over a 305 is a waste in most cases. Most cases.
I have owned many 305 vehicles and they are not performers, but have always been extremely reliable.
His crate plans of a 355 will be formidable.
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Originally Posted by Street Lethal
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But like you said, reading is fundamental.....right?
And yea, on average a stock ho302 block will be good to around 475rwhp, some split at a little less, some make it a lot higher. It mainly has to do with the tune and the engine speed. Mexican blocks and 67-74 302s are stronger as well, but we'll leave them out to keep this somewhat simple.
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Originally Posted by mrpopo573
No doubt the 305 is a weak performer. I believe bolt ons are a great way to get what you can out of it if you cannot afford a 350 variant yet, like 302eater.
Internally working over a 305 is a waste in most cases. Most cases.
I have owned many 305 vehicles and they are not performers, but have always been extremely reliable.
His crate plans of a 355 will be formidable.
Internally working over a 305 is a waste in most cases. Most cases.
I have owned many 305 vehicles and they are not performers, but have always been extremely reliable.
His crate plans of a 355 will be formidable.
355 with very nice heads, and a good cam would be pretty quick
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Originally Posted by mrpopo573
As as theory of mine, I believe things that happen on the street tend to have nothing to do with numbers from magazines.
I'm sure this will lead to more **** talking speculation, but what is worse? Actually racing your car, relatively slow as it may be, or using data sheets to decide whether you win or not?
I'm sure this will lead to more **** talking speculation, but what is worse? Actually racing your car, relatively slow as it may be, or using data sheets to decide whether you win or not?
Did he not mash the gas as hard? Was his car running crappy? I'm just wondering what the difference in the race was. Clearly if his car runs down LT1's he should have put 3 to 4 cars on the GTi with ease.
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Originally Posted by WRX-ERROR
Well one race I could see. But the OP has said he beat a few LT1 powered cars. So I'm just wondering how a car that is a second slower in the 1/4 mile hung as well as an LT1 did doing nearly the same race.
Did he not mash the gas as hard? Was his car running crappy? I'm just wondering what the difference in the race was. Clearly if his car runs down LT1's he should have put 3 to 4 cars on the GTi with ease.
Did he not mash the gas as hard? Was his car running crappy? I'm just wondering what the difference in the race was. Clearly if his car runs down LT1's he should have put 3 to 4 cars on the GTi with ease.
Only way that could happen is LT1 has a bad opti or..........He hooked and the LT1 was spinning bad, and hes a decent driver etc...
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Being a good friend with 302eater I can say he is hands down the best stick driver I have ever seen. His shifts are nearly as good as my t400s. THAT being said, he does truly know his car isn't fast guys. He isn't an arrogant ricer style third gener, but he does love to race, especially when he is supposed to lose. i give him tons of credit for that, cuz i have a lot of other people I know that just want for sure wins.
And in some instances, his car surprises those looking for an easy kill, or dismiss him as another mullet wagon.
Videos always help though, the net is filled with BS stories, so I understand the speculation.
And in some instances, his car surprises those looking for an easy kill, or dismiss him as another mullet wagon.
Videos always help though, the net is filled with BS stories, so I understand the speculation.
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Originally Posted by wpnsman2000
Dude none of your cars could hang w/ a LS1, guess thats why you own a bike
to go above 90mph in the 1/4 huh!!! Go somewhere and EAT A D*&#
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