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Old 02-20-2007, 09:30 PM
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Just cuz it doesn't "feel" any faster, doesn't mean it wasn't. Trust me... it is.
Old 02-20-2007, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Just cuz it doesn't "feel" any faster, doesn't mean it wasn't. Trust me... it is.
Dunno... nifty number quoting is cool and all that, but I haven't experienced it on the street.

Maybe one day I'll get to view the best part of a Saleen, the rear. But until somebody actually drives one of those things, instead of revving and posing, I just have to go with the rear view mirror view I always see...
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They have something around 400rwhp and 3.55 gears... they can beat a stock LS1.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
They have something around 400rwhp and 3.55 gears... they can beat a stock LS1.

stock ls1! whats that?
Old 02-21-2007, 12:31 AM
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lol, yeah I know. Very rare. But it CAN happen
Old 02-21-2007, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Just cuz it doesn't "feel" any faster, doesn't mean it wasn't. Trust me... it is.
Not according to Car and Driver.
1/4 mile 13.2@110

Where is the extra HP???

I've been in plenty of fast cars before, and I can tell you that this wasn't one of them. Did it look and sound nice? Yes. I actually liked the car, but the fact remains that a 13.2 is still slower than most stock LS1's even though it has the advantage of F/I. It pulled decent up top, but the 281 lacks the grunt down low compared to the LSX's.
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F/i ?
Old 02-21-2007, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bryanZ06
Not according to Car and Driver.
1/4 mile 13.2@110

Where is the extra HP???

I've been in plenty of fast cars before, and I can tell you that this wasn't one of them. Did it look and sound nice? Yes. I actually liked the car, but the fact remains that a 13.2 is still slower than most stock LS1's even though it has the advantage of F/I. It pulled decent up top, but the 281 lacks the grunt down low compared to the LSX's.
I have never seen a magazine test of an LS1 that yielded more than a 106-107mph trap, lower than 13.3 or so. There are tons of magazines that can't even run 13s in one. So using magazine tests is only good for very general comparisons, imho.

Edit: Unless you're Evan Smith, of course.
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My best friends uncle owns a ford dealership that has both the shelby cobra gt500 and the s/c saleen cobra (435 hp, not the 550 hp extreme edition) and I have driven both and they both are definately faster than an f-body, ls1 vette, or gto, but I think that the c5 z06 and c6 are faster as I have driven both vettes and they definately felt faster. Again not ragging on the ford products as both cars are a pulley swap away from being absolute beasts (although I hear the swaps are tough to do on the gt500) but the c5 z06 and c6 both felt faster.
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Yeah, the new S281 S/C is somewhere right around what an '01+ LS1 Vette will do, give or take. Maybe a "touch" quicker.
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Originally Posted by thingthatgoes
F/i ?
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I'm not trying to rag on the Mustang at all, and I'm not trying to start a Mustang vs. LSX powered car arguement. I never said anything bad about the Saleen, I actually said that I liked it for the most part. Who knows, the car we were in could have had issues, but the fact remains that this car would have gotten it's *** handed to it by quite a few stock cars I've driven (LS2 GTO, LS1 F Body, and the WRX STI come to mind first). Now add in a pulley swap and an exhaust and the outcome would be very different.
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Originally Posted by bryanZ06
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I'm not trying to rag on the Mustang at all, and I'm not trying to start a Mustang vs. LSX powered car arguement. I never said anything bad about the Saleen, I actually said that I liked it for the most part. Who knows, the car we were in could have had issues, but the fact remains that this car would have gotten it's *** handed to it by quite a few stock cars I've driven (LS2 GTO, LS1 F Body, and the WRX STI come to mind first). Now add in a pulley swap and an exhaust and the outcome would be very different.

Really? I thought the saleen felt faster than my bolt on camaro, my uncles 01 ls1 vette, and the two 06 gto's I have driven. Was it def the S/C ed one? It didnt feel WAY faster but I def felt a seat of the pants difference between the other vehicles listed. Def slower though than a c5 z06 or C6.
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It was without a doubt the s/c one. We popped the hood before we left the lot.
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Originally Posted by bryanZ06
Not according to Car and Driver.
1/4 mile 13.2@110

Where is the extra HP???

I've been in plenty of fast cars before, and I can tell you that this wasn't one of them. Did it look and sound nice? Yes. I actually liked the car, but the fact remains that a 13.2 is still slower than most stock LS1's even though it has the advantage of F/I. It pulled decent up top, but the 281 lacks the grunt down low compared to the LSX's.
You got to be Fing kidding me!?

Not to mention a car and driver 1/4 time is comparable to what a good driver could do on a dusty backroad with a passenger.
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i've got a vid of my friends 99 TA put a pounding on an S281 S/C. and then the next time he beat him at the track over and over...they arent thast fast. freinds care only has exhaust and intake, and tb.
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by exhaust do you mean LT ORY and Catback? Thats what it means when I negotiate a street race
Old 02-21-2007, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bryanZ06
Not according to Car and Driver.
1/4 mile 13.2@110
Car & driver?

We need to beef up this section with more racers. This is getting ridiculous.
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didnt c&d test a cobalt ss at 15.4 at 98 mph?
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Motor Trend tested a '99 Firehawk at 13.8
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i see a blue saleen with bling bling rims in carrollton, i always get close to him and get in front of him.. he never chases



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