C6 Z06(600hp) vs Skyline 650hp
04-13-2007, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
I don't see why the IMSA 300ZX wouldnt be faster, it is probably as light or lighter making much more power. And as far as the new GTR goes the last recorded lap time was 7.42 seconds and the car hasnt even been released yet.
Do you? You actually know? Please, do tell.
Concerning the new GTR, that's a great new time I haven't read yet... When was that recorded? I can't believe I missed it.
Can it keep it that way for release here? I hope so because I DO like the car and it will have MUCH competition from the upcoming Vipers and Vettes (...SS...
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04-13-2007, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
Yea. Move to Japan and take your friend here with you. 
I laughed quite a bit the first time...but this was too much...my sides are still hurting!
04-13-2007, 02:47 PM
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So why would a N/A engine come from the factory engineered for forced induction? Of course a turbo car is going to be already built for boost. If I was just interested in how much boost I could brag about I would put a Duramax into my Vette!
Some forget what the LS engines do better than most its what allows the Vette to gain features but not gain weight. Its designed for its power density. There are very few engine that weigh and have the physical size of the LS motors and are able to put out the power that they do.
Some forget what the LS engines do better than most its what allows the Vette to gain features but not gain weight. Its designed for its power density. There are very few engine that weigh and have the physical size of the LS motors and are able to put out the power that they do.
04-13-2007, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by germeezy1
So why would a N/A engine come from the factory engineered for forced induction? Of course a turbo car is going to be already built for boost. If I was just interested in how much boost I could brag about I would put a Duramax into my Vette!
Some forget what the LS engines do better than most its what allows the Vette to gain features but not gain weight. Its designed for its power density. There are very few engine that weigh and have the physical size of the LS motors and are able to put out the power that they do.
Some forget what the LS engines do better than most its what allows the Vette to gain features but not gain weight. Its designed for its power density. There are very few engine that weigh and have the physical size of the LS motors and are able to put out the power that they do.
Seems obvious to me!!!
I mean, I can see how wonderful motors like the R26DETT are and everything they do right...
What the approach of the LS is, instead, is just as obvious to me and... Hey, it works!!! Z06 is doing its job just fine and dandy across the world if only you open up your eyes and decide to see!
04-13-2007, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bboyferal
I didn't say it would or it wouldn't... I only said I wouldn't agree because I DON'T KNOW which one would be...
Do you? You actually know? Please, do tell.
Concerning the new GTR, that's a great new time I haven't read yet... When was that recorded? I can't believe I missed it.
Can it keep it that way for release here? I hope so because I DO like the car and it will have MUCH competition from the upcoming Vipers and Vettes (...SS... ).
Do you? You actually know? Please, do tell.
Concerning the new GTR, that's a great new time I haven't read yet... When was that recorded? I can't believe I missed it.
Can it keep it that way for release here? I hope so because I DO like the car and it will have MUCH competition from the upcoming Vipers and Vettes (...SS...
).The time was recorded a few months a go, I can't remember what magazine listed it. Also most peoople don't realize that the C6 that lapped the nurburbring in 7.40 seconds was a supercharged blue devil driven by Corvette’s Le Mans class-winning driver Jan Magnussen. As a side note one of the C6R winning drivers also used to be a winning driver for Nissan with the IMSA 300ZX, Johnny O'Connell.
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04-13-2007, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sworaz
Well get you a$$ over to the skyline forum!!! Why isn't this dude banned!?
i love my evo,just like you guys love your ls1's...
you guys are argueing a stupid point...ive seen 1000+hp skylines,evos,supras,etc..and i dont pay much attention to chevys,fords,etc..but sure there are some street legal 1000+hp domestics as well..
just look past your bowtie for once and look at other fast cars
04-13-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
The time was recorded a few months a go, I can't remember what magazine listed it. Also most peoople don't realize that the C6 that lapped the nurburbring in 7.40 seconds was a supercharged blue devil driven by Corvette’s Le Mans class-winning driver Jan Magnussen. As a side note one of the C6R winning drivers also used to be a winning driver for Nissan with the IMSA 300ZX, Johnny O'Connell.
the c5 started in 97 and by 2000 its kinks were worked out pretty well. i am willing to bet a 99 or 2000 c5 would give the same year model gtr a very good race stock to stock. you had frc vettes of those years that were lighter and handled better than your average vette
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Originally Posted by silver01z06
the car that was at nurinburg was not supercharged. i am sure all the cars driven at the ring for times they are going to publish are driven by professional drivers. also in most of the class' the vettes compete in they are restricted. in lemans if you win to many races they start penalizing you by adding weight to the car. i remember watching a race and they were talking about how the vettes had an 150lbs because they had won the last race and the aston martins didnt have the handy cap. i believe it was last season i saw this. i dont think aston martin is participating this year.
"BLUE DEVIL (Z06-R, Z06-SS) pulls a 7 min 40 sec lap that is being reported and has been confirmed to have been done by the blue devil. And it is also confirmed the blue devil has a 600bhp supercharged version of the new Z06 engine:"Dubbed the ‘blue devil’ by GM insiders, and caught here setting an impressive 7min 40sec lap of the Nürburgring in the hands of Corvettes Le Mans class-winning driver Jan Magnussen, the car will be positioned to take on some of the world's most highly-respected supercars, according to General Motors product guru, Bob Lutz."
And basically all motorsport races are done that way, the GTR was also forced to add weight penalties through out its racing career numurous times.
04-13-2007, 03:35 PM
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#1 11-10-2006, 01:09 PM
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Check out this Nurburgring time list!
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The Z06 is faster than the McLaren F1!!!
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vi...=10073&bottom=0
Nordschleife excluding GP track, 20.6 kms:
www.nurburgring.org.uk/map.jpg
6:55* -- 178.699 km/h -- Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (sep,28 05),
http://www.radicalextremesportscars....0905/index.php
http://www.radicalextremesportscars....ring/index.php
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/video_g...ap_record.html (*street-legal only in the UK)
7:12* -- 173.600 km/h -- Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03) (*mfr.)
7:14.89 172.181 km/h – Donkervoort D8 270 RS, , 350 PS/600 kg, Michael Düchting (nov,6 05), http://autoweek.nl/newsdisp.php?cache=no&ID=4199
7:15.63 169.311 km/h -- Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, Patrick Simons (sport auto 09/05), http://www.edo-competition.de/filead...eife_runde.avi
http://www.chpltd.com/911_porsche_wo...ngmeister.html
7:18.01 170.236 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Duechting, sport auto 12/2004, >>> http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?v...ID=2&tID=13957
7:19* -- 168.929 km/h -- Radical SR3 1500 Turbo, Phil Bennet (jun,15 03) (*mfr.), http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/new...iefe/index.php ,
www.radicalsportscars.com/gallery/ring2b.mpg
7:28 --- 166.652 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Roehrl,(Autobild 07/04)
7:32* -- 164.071 km/h – Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/ 1230 kg, (*mfr.) www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp
7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)
7:32.52 163.882 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) , www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:33 --- 163.708 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 05/06),
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=83550
7:34 --- 163.586 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto), oct,17-18 05, http://www.koenigsegg.com/news/artic...age=&type=news, http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=75219
7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (02)
7.39* -- 161.575 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.575 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, http://www.koenigsegg.com/news/artic...age=&type=news
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=0&tID=44953
7:39.39 161.219 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Röhrl (AutoBild 02/06)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04)
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:41 --- 160.868 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/04), http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextsho...pdf.asp?id=217
7:42* -- 160.519 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h – Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02)
7:42.9 - 160.207 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05), http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y...ID=1384471&l=d
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR
Vitamin J
Check out this Nurburgring time list!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Z06 is faster than the McLaren F1!!!
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vi...=10073&bottom=0
Nordschleife excluding GP track, 20.6 kms:
www.nurburgring.org.uk/map.jpg
6:55* -- 178.699 km/h -- Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (sep,28 05),
http://www.radicalextremesportscars....0905/index.php
http://www.radicalextremesportscars....ring/index.php
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/video_g...ap_record.html (*street-legal only in the UK)
7:12* -- 173.600 km/h -- Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03) (*mfr.)
7:14.89 172.181 km/h – Donkervoort D8 270 RS, , 350 PS/600 kg, Michael Düchting (nov,6 05), http://autoweek.nl/newsdisp.php?cache=no&ID=4199
7:15.63 169.311 km/h -- Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, Patrick Simons (sport auto 09/05), http://www.edo-competition.de/filead...eife_runde.avi
http://www.chpltd.com/911_porsche_wo...ngmeister.html
7:18.01 170.236 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Duechting, sport auto 12/2004, >>> http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?v...ID=2&tID=13957
7:19* -- 168.929 km/h -- Radical SR3 1500 Turbo, Phil Bennet (jun,15 03) (*mfr.), http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/new...iefe/index.php ,
www.radicalsportscars.com/gallery/ring2b.mpg
7:28 --- 166.652 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Roehrl,(Autobild 07/04)
7:32* -- 164.071 km/h – Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/ 1230 kg, (*mfr.) www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp
7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)
7:32.52 163.882 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) , www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:33 --- 163.708 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 05/06),
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=83550
7:34 --- 163.586 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto), oct,17-18 05, http://www.koenigsegg.com/news/artic...age=&type=news, http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=75219
7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (02)
7.39* -- 161.575 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.575 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, http://www.koenigsegg.com/news/artic...age=&type=news
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=0&tID=44953
7:39.39 161.219 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Röhrl (AutoBild 02/06)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04)
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:41 --- 160.868 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/04), http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextsho...pdf.asp?id=217
7:42* -- 160.519 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h – Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02)
7:42.9 - 160.207 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05), http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y...ID=1384471&l=d
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR
04-13-2007, 03:42 PM
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Christ, people are STILL saying the Blue car at the ring was supercharged? All because some knucklehead heard the car and said "gee, that sounds supercharged!."
It was a C6 Z06. NOT a blue devil. I have this confirmed from damn near as high a source as possible, same person who confirmed a 427 for the C6Z while it was still being discussed to death on forums months before it happened.
It was a C6 Z06. NOT a blue devil. I have this confirmed from damn near as high a source as possible, same person who confirmed a 427 for the C6Z while it was still being discussed to death on forums months before it happened.
04-13-2007, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
"BLUE DEVIL (Z06-R, Z06-SS) pulls a 7 min 40 sec lap that is being reported and has been confirmed to have been done by the blue devil. And it is also confirmed the blue devil has a 600bhp supercharged version of the new Z06 engine:"Dubbed the ‘blue devil’ by GM insiders, and caught here setting an impressive 7min 40sec lap of the Nürburgring in the hands of Corvettes Le Mans class-winning driver Jan Magnussen, the car will be positioned to take on some of the world's most highly-respected supercars, according to General Motors product guru, Bob Lutz."
And basically all motorsport races are done that way, the GTR was also forced to add weight penalties through out its racing career numurous times.
And basically all motorsport races are done that way, the GTR was also forced to add weight penalties through out its racing career numurous times.
04-13-2007, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackMagicC5
To me a Skyline is just like a Supra, it gives all the ricers something to worship, but still has ricer qualities. I don't see whats so great about Skylines. They just remind me of an Evo, Integra or something along those lines. And I'll take the sound of the 427ci over those ridiculous ricer turbo sounds. I really hope I'm not alone.
