402 VS 600 street bike
all it takes is money... 
04-27-2007 | 12:40 PM
#84
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Originally Posted by Sneakyws6
My numbers add up just fine, I dont do 8000rpm drops out of the hole and stock gearing in the tranny on a ZX10r is alot different than the Gixxer 1000. Too much off the line and I just ride wheelies in 1st and 2nd all the way down the track.
My bike is under warranty as well and I really dont feel like replacing the clutch trying to be a ricky racer at the drags. I have a local friend as well that is running 9.6's on his Gixxer 1000 as well. They are alot easier bike to launch at the track versus the 10's due to the clutch design and gearing.
My bike is under warranty as well and I really dont feel like replacing the clutch trying to be a ricky racer at the drags. I have a local friend as well that is running 9.6's on his Gixxer 1000 as well. They are alot easier bike to launch at the track versus the 10's due to the clutch design and gearing.
so, you're bike runs the same ET as said gsxr 1k, but 10mph faster trap speed...then you call my bro a bad rider??? sounds like you're the no riding **** to me. i love all the 'excuses' (coughricercough) for why your ET's aren't up to par with the power
Originally Posted by spazzyfry123
Why is everyone so hostile over something so stupid? 
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE, COULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED, I MUST HAVE BEEN HALLUCINATING IT THE ENTIRE TIME...man, that was a crazy trip
04-27-2007 | 01:16 PM
#85
you guys are missing it; confused is 555rwhp NA... he has a direct port kit on top of that... and yes if you start the roll race at 60mph it would be very likely his car can hang/beat a bike to 140..... after that ofcourse the bike will catch up and win....
04-27-2007 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ty_ty13
you guys are missing it; confused is 555rwhp NA... he has a direct port kit on top of that... and yes if you start the roll race at 60mph it would be very likely his car can hang/beat a bike to 140..... after that ofcourse the bike will catch up and win....
04-27-2007 | 01:58 PM
#88
Originally Posted by Black_Bird
Must be a pretty heavy rider at 615lbs on a 600cc bike. Mine weighs 355+ my 190 and even add +15lbs of leathers/helmet if you want which equals out to 560lbs, and then goes to 5.09 pounds per HP. 55lbs is alot on a bike. I ran a 450ish RWHP GT not even a week ago and it wasnt even close, he's had the car for years and I've had this new bike for months. I love my car, bikes are just a different world altogether.
from sportrider.com your bike is heavier than you think
04-27-2007 | 02:18 PM
#89
Like i said already 11.00s at 135 is way off i an doing 11.30s at 120...so a good rider you are not...i still think if you are actually running 135 and even with a 2.+ 60ft you would still be in the 10's...
i agree with you KGSLOAN...nice 60ft for your brother...did he pull that 60ft without wheelie bars...best i could get on my 160mm rear stock tire and weak hp 95 zx6r was 1.70...
i agree with you KGSLOAN...nice 60ft for your brother...did he pull that 60ft without wheelie bars...best i could get on my 160mm rear stock tire and weak hp 95 zx6r was 1.70...
Originally Posted by Sneakyws6
Well first off there is not a 600 or a 1000 for that matter that weighs 355 wet, that is the dry weight with no fluids meaning no gas, no oil, no battery fluid, no coolant, no brake fluid, no fork oil nothing. Wet with all fluid and full tank of gas every 600 and 1000 on the market at either at 410 to 430 for the bike and then maybe figure 180 for a rider.
Go middle of the road for the bike and that puts you right at 600 pounds.
600cc with maybe 110rwhp and 600 pounds = 5.45 pounds per hp
1000cc with maybe 155rwhp and 600 pounds = 3.87 pounds per hp
Cunfuzed maybe its time you race someone who knows how to ride. I can help you settle this seeing as I live in Oklahoma. I own a 2005 ZX10r putting down 160rwhp and also have a 2005 ZX6r 636 putting down 107rwhp at my disposal. I race out at thunder Valley and run around the Hallet track a couple of times a year.
There are no experienced liter bike owners running 130's at TV. I run 10.5's at 145 at TV. I was running 11.0's at 135 on my old bike which was a 2003 636.
I know my 10 will pull to 185 actual and the 636 in my garage will do 165 actual.
When you are ready and willing to race someone who knows how to ride let me know. If your car is that bad *** and you can bet me then fine but I just dont see you being that close with any of the newer 2004+ liter bikes on the market if they have a accomplished rider on them.
Go middle of the road for the bike and that puts you right at 600 pounds.
600cc with maybe 110rwhp and 600 pounds = 5.45 pounds per hp
1000cc with maybe 155rwhp and 600 pounds = 3.87 pounds per hp
Cunfuzed maybe its time you race someone who knows how to ride. I can help you settle this seeing as I live in Oklahoma. I own a 2005 ZX10r putting down 160rwhp and also have a 2005 ZX6r 636 putting down 107rwhp at my disposal. I race out at thunder Valley and run around the Hallet track a couple of times a year.
There are no experienced liter bike owners running 130's at TV. I run 10.5's at 145 at TV. I was running 11.0's at 135 on my old bike which was a 2003 636.
I know my 10 will pull to 185 actual and the 636 in my garage will do 165 actual.
When you are ready and willing to race someone who knows how to ride let me know. If your car is that bad *** and you can bet me then fine but I just dont see you being that close with any of the newer 2004+ liter bikes on the market if they have a accomplished rider on them.
04-27-2007 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chrs1313
i agree with you KGSLOAN...nice 60ft for your brother...did he pull that 60ft without wheelie bars...best i could get on my 160mm rear stock tire and weak hp 95 zx6r was 1.70...
he had since added a PCIII when he raced cunfuzed, dynoed at around 158rwhp i believe.
he had bought a strap and adjustable lowering bones for the rear that he was going to try out this season to see if a 9 was possible for him...but he highsided it at hallet raceway park a few weeks ago and that was the end of that bike.
04-27-2007 | 06:24 PM
#92
Originally Posted by ty_ty13
you guys are missing it; confused is 555rwhp NA... he has a direct port kit on top of that... and yes if you start the roll race at 60mph it would be very likely his car can hang/beat a bike to 140..... after that ofcourse the bike will catch up and win....
KGSLOAN you and I where smoking from the same blunt it seems.
04-30-2007 | 01:45 PM
#94
Originally Posted by chrs1313
GSX-R600 ('06) 7/06 37/43/39 109.3 @ 13,500 44.1 @ 11,750 Wet 438lb Dry 411lbs
from sportrider.com your bike is heavier than you think
from sportrider.com your bike is heavier than you think
Dry mass: ............................................161 kg (354 lbs)
And here is the page with that information it, you must have been looking at the page where riders put what they THINK their bike weighs when they dyno it. Hell on that page sometimes they say a '750 weighs 40lbs less than a '600. I have the factory manual right here that reads the same as what I just posted above.
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_...fications.html
04-30-2007 | 02:35 PM
#95
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_w...ts/index8.html
there is the link it says the dry weight was measuring without gas...doesn't really matter anyways what the dry weight is...wet is all that is important...so who really cares what it weights without fluids...like measuring the raceweight of my car with no radiator fluid, trans fluid, rear gear fluid, gas, oil, battery...it is all marketing anyways to get you to buy the bike...
there is the link it says the dry weight was measuring without gas...doesn't really matter anyways what the dry weight is...wet is all that is important...so who really cares what it weights without fluids...like measuring the raceweight of my car with no radiator fluid, trans fluid, rear gear fluid, gas, oil, battery...it is all marketing anyways to get you to buy the bike...
Originally Posted by Black_Bird
What the heck are you looking at? Dry 411lbs? This is STRAIGHT from sportrider.com.
Dry mass: ............................................161 kg (354 lbs)
And here is the page with that information it, you must have been looking at the page where riders put what they THINK their bike weighs when they dyno it. Hell on that page sometimes they say a '750 weighs 40lbs less than a '600. I have the factory manual right here that reads the same as what I just posted above.
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_...fications.html
Dry mass: ............................................161 kg (354 lbs)
And here is the page with that information it, you must have been looking at the page where riders put what they THINK their bike weighs when they dyno it. Hell on that page sometimes they say a '750 weighs 40lbs less than a '600. I have the factory manual right here that reads the same as what I just posted above.
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_...fications.html
05-16-2007 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by KGSloan
said gsxr rider was my brother, he has run 10.41@136mph w/ a 1.54" short time. he weighs in at about 215lbs...and the bike is (i should say was ) an '04 gsxr 1k
sneaky, if you are trapping 145 you should be running MUCH faster than mid 10's, our buddy here trapping 145 runs in the mid 9's on his zx-10r, so something don't add up there.
i was in my camaro as the "trail" car (i call it that because cunfuzed drove away like i wasn't racing) that got the video.
555rwhp through a th400 and 12-bolt is easily capable of mid 10's at the kind of MPH
i just love me some internet experts
hp/weight ratio play an important role, but people should remember that even todays best sportbikes have a higher drag coefficient than a new pickup truck...a car with a lb/hp ratio of 4:1 would blow a bike away, so if that's all that comes into play how can it be explained, hmm
) an '04 gsxr 1ksneaky, if you are trapping 145 you should be running MUCH faster than mid 10's, our buddy here trapping 145 runs in the mid 9's on his zx-10r, so something don't add up there.
i was in my camaro as the "trail" car (i call it that because cunfuzed drove away like i wasn't racing) that got the video.
555rwhp through a th400 and 12-bolt is easily capable of mid 10's at the kind of MPH
i just love me some internet experts
hp/weight ratio play an important role, but people should remember that even todays best sportbikes have a higher drag coefficient than a new pickup truck...a car with a lb/hp ratio of 4:1 would blow a bike away, so if that's all that comes into play how can it be explained, hmm
During our last battle of the cities there was a guy on an 05 zx-10 going 10.6x @ 130...
05-16-2007 | 11:56 PM
#97
i had a 2003 honda 600rr it had a slip and i ran a 04 350z twin turbo,he made 430rwhp on a dyno jet. whe ran 3 races , first race was from a 40 kick and i pulled him about 5 cars at that speed i was in first gear,we race from a 80 kick which i was in 3rd pulled him about 3 cars, then we raced from a 100 kick which i started behind him. I went from behind him to about a 1/2 in front of him up to 160mph. a 600 will stop pulling hard around 145mph. from a slow roll the guys does not have a chance if the guy on the motorcycle is a good rider
05-17-2007 | 06:53 PM
#98
Originally Posted by ty_ty13
most 600cc bikes make what 110rwhp stock @ 615lbs for a race weight?
thats 5.59 pounds per HP...
thats 5.59 pounds per HP...
http://www.yamahabike.net/2006YZF-R6.php
http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/suz...r_600_2007.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBR600RR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Ninja_ZX-6R
Last edited by greysteel_M6; 05-17-2007 at 07:00 PM.