LT1 Camaro vs Mach 1
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
What you are not understanding here apparently is we are talking about ROLL RACES. Trap speed generally indicates how you're gonna do in a roll race, and there's no way a 268rwhp Z28 that probably traps 103-104mph should pull an '02 WS6. Or a blown GT. Or a bolt-on Mach 1
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That would be like me coming in here and bragging about beating those cars.
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Originally Posted by burnzilla
This is not the first thread where a bolt on LT1 has pulled an LS1 and/or a car that is supposed to have won, even at higher speeds.
No offense man, but a a full bolt LT1 is on average a half second quicker than a full bolt on 99-04 GT.
No offense man, but a a full bolt LT1 is on average a half second quicker than a full bolt on 99-04 GT.
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you have a 5spd, our cars with 6spds and similar mods dyno quite higher
fwiw my buddy has a full bolt on 02 gt that dynos ~250rwhp also a 5spd. Burnzilla man you sure our the lt1 civil rights advocate lol cheers to that
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Burnzilla - you are officially the thread idiot. I love how you are dodging the fact that this guy has less HP, more weight and yet is able to pull like no one's business. We say it is obvious driver (WHICH THE OP ADMITTED TO) and you still dodge that one. Face the facts..the LT1 is not as great as you saying. I understand defending cars/motors, but you are just being flat out unrealistic in your side of the argument.
BESIDES the fact, that you still have NOT acknowledged him pulling on a 350 RWHP Blown GT....the FUGGER has a bottle. It's that simple........BTW - that was found out on another board....BY AN FBOD owner. The guy is lying, his car was looked at..it's truely THAT simple.
Sup Chris...how's it going? Still haven't ran into yet...(obviously) ALthough I saw a camaro like yours at Edwards Friday night.
BESIDES the fact, that you still have NOT acknowledged him pulling on a 350 RWHP Blown GT....the FUGGER has a bottle. It's that simple........BTW - that was found out on another board....BY AN FBOD owner. The guy is lying, his car was looked at..it's truely THAT simple.
Sup Chris...how's it going? Still haven't ran into yet...(obviously) ALthough I saw a camaro like yours at Edwards Friday night.
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
Burnzilla - you are officially the thread idiot..
And youre calling me names, after I have seen you get in countless arguments in this street race forum?
Pony, you are in NO position to be calling anyone an idiot, sorry to say.
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I love how you are dodging the fact that this guy has less HP, more weight and yet is able to pull like no one's business.
Originally Posted by ponygt65
We say it is obvious driver (WHICH THE OP ADMITTED TO) and you still dodge that one. Face the facts..the LT1 is not as great as you saying. I understand defending cars/motors, but you are just being flat out unrealistic in your side of the argument.
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BESIDES the fact, that you still have NOT acknowledged him pulling on a 350 RWHP Blown GT....
And whether this guy is full of **** makes no difference, I have seen countless races of near full bolt on LT1's running with LS1's with a bolt on or two a number of times, more then enough to hang with a Mach or pull a car on it, especially given a bad driver like OP admitted.
I have a bolt on LT1 and I have messed around with LS1's at stoplights.
That Mach was going as fast as it could, and it lost.
No excuses.
If the OP lied about his mods, well he is the biggest tool on here.
But I dont need clarification from anyone that a bolt on LT1 can run with these cars.
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Originally Posted by Chris95Z
you have a 5spd, our cars with 6spds and similar mods dyno quite higher
fwiw my buddy has a full bolt on 02 gt that dynos ~250rwhp also a 5spd. Burnzilla man you sure our the lt1 civil rights advocate lol cheers to that ![Chug! Chug! Chug!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_chug.gif)
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Originally Posted by burnzilla
Are you reading your own comments?
And youre calling me names, after I have seen you get in countless arguments in this street race forum?
Pony, you are in NO position to be calling anyone an idiot, sorry to say..
And youre calling me names, after I have seen you get in countless arguments in this street race forum?
Pony, you are in NO position to be calling anyone an idiot, sorry to say..
This is why you are the idiot:
Originally Posted by burnzilla
So, bolt on LT1's that can run mid-low 13's running with cars that run mid to low 13's is unrealistic?.
You are taking this argument so many differemy ways because you are deflecting direct questions that you know the answers will proove you wrong!!!
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Hows life pony? I am at work on friday nights unfortunately, so you were at edwards...see all the loser ricers trailing one another on blackstone? At least they know their place on the food chain, some 60's camaro came up on me the other day there trying to race on 'stone, very risky. So i let him follow me a bit on my way home (nees) and proceeded to give him a whoopin lol. I'm not sure how that's really relevant to anything but if you ever race in the area just keep an eye out.
edit: I'll have to run the wifes car sometime in spirit of this thread, later.
edit: I'll have to run the wifes car sometime in spirit of this thread, later.
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
I get in arguements ONLY with those that are ignorant to mustangs (such as yourself).
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'A BOLT ON LT1' WILL NOT PULL ON A BOLT ON MACH, WS6, BLOWN STANG GT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
Thats enough to beat a Mach 1.
You are right about a Blown Stang or Blown Mach, but once again I am not talking about them and youre using them as a cheap excuse for a buy in to place them with just an LS1, or Mach 1...
Originally Posted by ponygt65
You are taking this argument so many differemy ways because you are deflecting direct questions that you know the answers will proove you wrong!!!
What is so hard about that to understand?
I have had my points proven by other people.
You trying to argue with me about something you can win because you know a Blown Mach will take a bolt on LT1 easy, so that is your excuse.
You, once again, going on about 5 responses now, still fail to realize I am only addressing a bolt on LT1's ability to keep up with a Stock or Lightly modded LS1 and Mach 1.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
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Everyone calm down. I'd rather have a Mustang or LT1 F-body over an import anyday of the week and twice on Sunday. So lets fight with them instead of fighting with each other.
We all have American muscle and that's cool regardless of what motor is under the hood. Even if it's a LT1 killer like this one:
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I'm just kidding Burnzilla. I respect the LT1 and everything people like Shon and Big Rick have done with them.
We all have American muscle and that's cool regardless of what motor is under the hood. Even if it's a LT1 killer like this one:
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I'm just kidding Burnzilla. I respect the LT1 and everything people like Shon and Big Rick have done with them.
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So now, I am ignorant to Mustangs?
A Strong Bolt on LT1 has the ability to pull a stock WS6, it has happened. A guy 3-4 pages back said an M6 with intake, exhaust and headers pulled his stock 00' by 4 cars.
Thats enough to beat a Mach 1.
You are right about a Blown Stang or Blown Mach, but once again I am not talking about them and youre using them as a cheap excuse for a buy in to place them with just an LS1, or Mach 1...
We have had about 5 accounts of people in this thread alone admit a bolt on LT1 has pulled thier LS1 and/or put up a fight.
What is so hard about that to understand?
I have had my points proven by other people.
You trying to argue with me about something you can win because you know a Blown Mach will take a bolt on LT1 easy, so that is your excuse.
You, once again, going on about 5 responses now, still fail to realize I am only addressing a bolt on LT1's ability to keep up with a Stock or Lightly modded LS1 and Mach 1.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
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A Strong Bolt on LT1 has the ability to pull a stock WS6, it has happened. A guy 3-4 pages back said an M6 with intake, exhaust and headers pulled his stock 00' by 4 cars.
Thats enough to beat a Mach 1.
You are right about a Blown Stang or Blown Mach, but once again I am not talking about them and youre using them as a cheap excuse for a buy in to place them with just an LS1, or Mach 1...
We have had about 5 accounts of people in this thread alone admit a bolt on LT1 has pulled thier LS1 and/or put up a fight.
What is so hard about that to understand?
I have had my points proven by other people.
You trying to argue with me about something you can win because you know a Blown Mach will take a bolt on LT1 easy, so that is your excuse.
You, once again, going on about 5 responses now, still fail to realize I am only addressing a bolt on LT1's ability to keep up with a Stock or Lightly modded LS1 and Mach 1.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
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Chris - that's cool man. We'll have to meet up sometime if we can. (well, when I get the mach back).