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Old May 3, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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This Fox body that I was talking about is professionally built by Yarber Performance in Tn. But I still think this car is slow for the insane amount of money he spent on it.

He can outrun me, but when I raced him I didn't spray him, and I pulled about 3 cars right off the bat but he ran me down and passed me by only 2 cars right at the end of the quarter. If I spray him, it may be diffrent, who knows.

That's why I doubt that 94 Cobra running in the 10's. Much less I doubt he's pushing 12psi on that setup.
the yarbers have built some insanely fast cars.what track did the fox run that 10.70 at?
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Old May 3, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Procharger and a blower cam vs. a few bolt-ons? No dude; not even close.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
A fox-body with that much power running 10.70s is kinda sad... And I can definitely see the SN95 in question having ~450rwhp.
you really think so? 275 RWHP over stock?
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Old May 4, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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well considering that there are some ~10lb S197s making 475rwhp with supporting bolt-ons, I can definitely see a heads/cam 302 doing 450. It's an unknown cam though, and I'm not sure how good the SVO heads are. But even a stock head/cam DOHC 4.6 can hit 450rwhp on 12psi no problem.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:07 AM
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If you mean svo heads-aka gt-40(the stock head on all 94-95 cobras and 1st gen lightnings) they don't flow worth a damn. About the only head they outflow is the E7(stock 5.0 mustang heads). The only problem with some cocky sumbitch with a blower is that you don't know how much boost he is running. He can lie about that all day and you would never know. But usually people who just jump right in and say "let's race for money" are either
1. Trying to scare you away because their car doesn't really run that good, or
2. If they were some serious street racer for cash(Vinny Diesel-HAHAHAHA) don't you think that $300 is kind of a low number.

It's buttlicks like that who drive mustangs that give us mustang owners a bad name!! I hope the jerk runs into a camaro owner who tears his car a new one and takes his cash-then maybe he will stop the tongue wagging with what is probably a mid 12 sec car.

By the way-the 5.0 blocks aren't good for much over 500hp. And thats pushing it.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
you really think so? 275 RWHP over stock?
Hell no!
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
well considering that there are some ~10lb S197s making 475rwhp with supporting bolt-ons, I can definitely see a heads/cam 302 doing 450. It's an unknown cam though, and I'm not sure how good the SVO heads are. But even a stock head/cam DOHC 4.6 can hit 450rwhp on 12psi no problem.
You do realize that on average-the 4V DOHC heads flow with aftermarket aluminum 5.0 heads. And I don't mean any punk-*** heads either-I'm talkin AFR185 or equvalent heads.(such as canfields, TFS twisted wedge cnc, etc). I'm sure that I am not telling you anything you don't already know, but on a forced induction setup-cylinder head flow is critical. Especially in the exhaust port. The stock 5.0 E7 heads flow pathetic numbers, with the gt-40 heads coming in just a little better than pathetic. As it's been said many times- A motor is just a glorified air pump. The more air you can get into and out of the motor, the more power you are going to make. With that being said-I don't think homeboy is anywhere near 450rwhp.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DSGKB2.2
You do realize that on average-the 4V DOHC heads flow with aftermarket aluminum 5.0 heads. And I don't mean any punk-*** heads either-I'm talkin AFR185 or equvalent heads.(such as canfields, TFS twisted wedge cnc, etc). I'm sure that I am not telling you anything you don't already know, but on a forced induction setup-cylinder head flow is critical. Especially in the exhaust port. The stock 5.0 E7 heads flow pathetic numbers, with the gt-40 heads coming in just a little better than pathetic. As it's been said many times- A motor is just a glorified air pump. The more air you can get into and out of the motor, the more power you are going to make. With that being said-I don't think homeboy is anywhere near 450rwhp.
Exactly what I was thinking.........But, we all can only guesstimate.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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I agree with pony gt and dsgkb22. I think the guy was full off ****. i wanted to run him for ***** and giggles but he wouldnt race for ****. I really dont think he was running 12psi i think he was just bull shitting me. I told him i will run him in two weeks for $300 i got a 3200 stall, DR, true duals,and a hot cam on the way. I am going to bust his cocky ***. PS he was trying to tell me his car ran 7.50 int he 1/8 on street tire and 3.55 gear lol
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DSGKB2.2
You do realize that on average-the 4V DOHC heads flow with aftermarket aluminum 5.0 heads. And I don't mean any punk-*** heads either-I'm talkin AFR185 or equvalent heads.(such as canfields, TFS twisted wedge cnc, etc). I'm sure that I am not telling you anything you don't already know, but on a forced induction setup-cylinder head flow is critical. Especially in the exhaust port. The stock 5.0 E7 heads flow pathetic numbers, with the gt-40 heads coming in just a little better than pathetic. As it's been said many times- A motor is just a glorified air pump. The more air you can get into and out of the motor, the more power you are going to make. With that being said-I don't think homeboy is anywhere near 450rwhp.
Well yeah, but a bolt-on/tuned 2V 4.6 could even make almost 450rwhp if it weren't for that pesky unreliable bottom-end... So even if the 302 is not making 450rwhp, I can't see it making any less than 400rwhp on 12psi.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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my buddy jeremys gt has a procharger and afm blower cams on his 04 gt. It makes 437 horse on the stock bottom end with a very conservative tune and 10 lbs of boost. i think his motors gonna go kaboom real soon tho.
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Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
the yarbers have built some insanely fast cars.what track did the fox run that 10.70 at?
He ran at Bristol. It made good power but I think the tuning is still not up to par.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
A fox-body with that much power running 10.70s is kinda sad... And I can definitely see the SN95 in question having ~450rwhp.
That particular Fox body has some traction issues...but mainly I've taken a look at it and tried working on it...but all I can see ius that the tuning is off badly. He's got a PMS and it is certainly not set up right. I figure that's the problem mainly.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DSGKB2.2
If you mean svo heads-aka gt-40(the stock head on all 94-95 cobras and 1st gen lightnings) they don't flow worth a damn. About the only head they outflow is the E7(stock 5.0 mustang heads). The only problem with some cocky sumbitch with a blower is that you don't know how much boost he is running. He can lie about that all day and you would never know. But usually people who just jump right in and say "let's race for money" are either
1. Trying to scare you away because their car doesn't really run that good, or
2. If they were some serious street racer for cash(Vinny Diesel-HAHAHAHA) don't you think that $300 is kind of a low number.

It's buttlicks like that who drive mustangs that give us mustang owners a bad name!! I hope the jerk runs into a camaro owner who tears his car a new one and takes his cash-then maybe he will stop the tongue wagging with what is probably a mid 12 sec car.

By the way-the 5.0 blocks aren't good for much over 500hp. And thats pushing it.

The car I was talking about is a Merlin Block. It's set up to run...but tuning issues have hindered it so far...that's my diagnosis.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TravisMcGill2000
I agree with pony gt and dsgkb22. I think the guy was full off ****. i wanted to run him for ***** and giggles but he wouldnt race for ****. I really dont think he was running 12psi i think he was just bull shitting me. I told him i will run him in two weeks for $300 i got a 3200 stall, DR, true duals,and a hot cam on the way. I am going to bust his cocky ***. PS he was trying to tell me his car ran 7.50 int he 1/8 on street tire and 3.55 gear lol
Oh no...you didn't get the Hot Cam did you? Everyone on here but me will trash your cam.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
my buddy jeremys gt has a procharger and afm blower cams on his 04 gt. It makes 437 horse on the stock bottom end with a very conservative tune and 10 lbs of boost. i think his motors gonna go kaboom real soon tho.
With a good tune and 'decent' driving habits you might be surprised. It will blow sooner or later. But my car has only seen max boost (6.5) a couple of times.....I am usually only at 2-3 tops..and I don't whine it up past 5k too often to where it leans out more on top (as most cars will do pending tune). But witht he blower cams, he isnt' helping his bottom end much, that is for sure.

BTW - he should tone it down to 8psi IMO.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Well yeah, but a bolt-on/tuned 2V 4.6 could even make almost 450rwhp if it weren't for that pesky unreliable bottom-end... So even if the 302 is not making 450rwhp, I can't see it making any less than 400rwhp on 12psi.
THe flow of the 2V 4.6 is different than the 5.0/302..not to mention the 5.0s started with less power....45HP less. None of us will know, we can agree on that.
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
With a good tune and 'decent' driving habits you might be surprised. It will blow sooner or later. But my car has only seen max boost (6.5) a couple of times.....I am usually only at 2-3 tops..and I don't whine it up past 5k too often to where it leans out more on top (as most cars will do pending tune). But witht he blower cams, he isnt' helping his bottom end much, that is for sure.

BTW - he should tone it down to 8psi IMO.
hes got the fuel for it. its got 42lb injectors and twin focus fuel pumps. but he drives the car very rarely and even more rarely does the car see any boost. hes never had the car over 6 lbs of boost. i told him he wasted his money. but if it were my car the thing would probably be smoked already. his car gets babied hardcore
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Originally Posted by Torque_Wrench
He ran at Bristol. It made good power but I think the tuning is still not up to par.
bristol is a very slow track its uphill and d/a sux.havent seen yarbers cobra run this year but i saw it run 8.80s last year its a bad *** car.but yeah bristol sucks most ls1s run low 14s stock therer
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ibtu? In before the unit? I'd lock this one, but I don't have the power on this section
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