Raced a New Stang GT "OVER RATED"
06-05-2007, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
Bologna. Please link one that is on e-bay, or anywhere else. At all. I'd really like to see it.
Of course I'm talking factory, not aftermarket.
As for dyno racing...as this thread seems to have become lately...
98-00 LS1s typically dyno a bit lower than 01/02 LS1s. No matter which it is, what the actual rear wheel number ends up being depends on a lot of things, including the dyno itself, the correction factor used (STD will read ~3% higher than SAE, and no correction at all could be much higher or much lower), how well the weather instruments (mainly temp & barometer) are calibrated, and the state of tune of the car. Of course, it also depends upon the type of dyno (dynojet, load-bearing, etc).
From what I have seen, on a dynojet, and using only manual tranny cars, 98-00 LS1s typically put down ~290-300 RWHP. 01/02 cars perhaps 10 more. I've seen some down as low as 280 RWHP, and as high as 320 RWHP (maybe even one or two more, don't remember exactly).
99/01 Cobras typically make 270-275 RWHP. Mach 1s about the same. 96-98 Cobras 260-265. 99-04 GTs ~225. Stock 96-98 GTs barely register (sorry, couldn't resist).
Of course I'm talking factory, not aftermarket.
As for dyno racing...as this thread seems to have become lately...
98-00 LS1s typically dyno a bit lower than 01/02 LS1s. No matter which it is, what the actual rear wheel number ends up being depends on a lot of things, including the dyno itself, the correction factor used (STD will read ~3% higher than SAE, and no correction at all could be much higher or much lower), how well the weather instruments (mainly temp & barometer) are calibrated, and the state of tune of the car. Of course, it also depends upon the type of dyno (dynojet, load-bearing, etc).
From what I have seen, on a dynojet, and using only manual tranny cars, 98-00 LS1s typically put down ~290-300 RWHP. 01/02 cars perhaps 10 more. I've seen some down as low as 280 RWHP, and as high as 320 RWHP (maybe even one or two more, don't remember exactly).
99/01 Cobras typically make 270-275 RWHP. Mach 1s about the same. 96-98 Cobras 260-265. 99-04 GTs ~225. Stock 96-98 GTs barely register (sorry, couldn't resist).
06-05-2007, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
That, right there, says enough....laughing joke at a DEALERSHIP???... 
OMFG...that is hilarious.....oh no.....a building full of salesman are laughing at me......even worse, tech's that can't even be called mechanics cause they need a book and a computer to tell them what is broken.......OMFG........Thank you, I needed a laugh after the BS you have posted........
millaTK......Sorry for getting involved with this guy.....I just hate BS being thrown for NO reason by know it all's. (banning of him would be nice though ).
OMFG...that is hilarious.....oh no.....a building full of salesman are laughing at me......even worse, tech's that can't even be called mechanics cause they need a book and a computer to tell them what is broken.......OMFG........Thank you, I needed a laugh after the BS you have posted........ millaTK......Sorry for getting involved with this guy.....I just hate BS being thrown for NO reason by know it all's. (banning of him would be nice though
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06-05-2007, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MillaTK
96-98 GT's were slower than a 5.0 H.O. 5 speed car. They were absolute dogs. Heavier than the fox body, with a mind boggling 215-225 HP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is your post! Where you did say that 96-98's were slower than a 5.0 five speed car. Right? So you are saying a late 80's model 5.0 fox body with like 200hp and 2900lbs at the flywheel could out run a 96-98 GT? Not likley. Seems like you cant relate information very well either. Hell your the one who said that stupid mess not me. I will believe that race when i see it!
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06-05-2007, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
EDIT.......nevermind, I am not going to get caught up in this lame ***, "I know someone faster than you" crap. It's lame.....
...AND to think KingCobra02 is calling me the internet racer....
...AND to think KingCobra02 is calling me the internet racer....
He needs to call you the internet jackass. Its obvious there are more than 3 people on this site that dont like you either.
06-05-2007, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by KingCobra02
1. Have you ever heard of drive train loss??? Its about 10 -12% for a manual trans and 15-20% for an auto. But you being the dyno master you knew that im sure!
2. DO A SEARCH DUMB ***!!! YOUR ON A LS1 SITE!!!! A stock ls1 6sp puts 310-315 to the ground!!!!!
2. DO A SEARCH DUMB ***!!! YOUR ON A LS1 SITE!!!! A stock ls1 6sp puts 310-315 to the ground!!!!!
06-05-2007, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1UltraZ
LOL....my car made 700rwhp..on low boost on 93 pump gas..i doubt a KB Cobra is goin to stand much of a chance, but keep dreaming
and yes, i wish Unit or whatver his name was closer so he could realize how slow his pos is compared to a good old LT1
and yes, i wish Unit or whatver his name was closer so he could realize how slow his pos is compared to a good old LT1
How much $$$ do ya wanna throw down?
06-05-2007, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
So you are saying a late 80's model 5.0 fox body with like 200hp and 2900lbs at the flywheel could out run a 96-98 GT?
06-05-2007, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
This is your post! Where you did say that 96-98's were slower than a 5.0 five speed car. Right? So you are saying a late 80's model 5.0 fox body with like 200hp and 2900lbs at the flywheel could out run a 96-98 GT?
From 1987 to 1992, Fox Body 5.0s were rated at 225 HP (93 was the same motor, but rated at 205). Curb weight varied, as you could option them more than later years, but 2950-3150 lbs would be fairly representative.
96/97 GTs were rated at 215 HP, and 98s at 225 HP. Typical curb weight was 3250-3325 lbs.
Do the math. If you can.
Furthermore, back as far as 1988, bone stock, lightweight coupes had hit 13.9s (Car Illustrated, Spring 88 Edition, and my own 88 got very close to that back 'in the day'). Never, ever have I heard of a 96-98 doing that.
Bob
06-05-2007, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mach1_Marauder
I'll run ya in my little ol' Mach1.
How much $$$ do ya wanna throw down?
How much $$$ do ya wanna throw down?
are u within driving distance with your keyboard or do u wanna race dyno numbers?
06-05-2007, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
Bologna. Please link one that is on e-bay, or anywhere else. At all. I'd really like to see it.
Of course I'm talking factory, not aftermarket.
Of course I'm talking factory, not aftermarket.
06-05-2007, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1UltraZ
and yes, i wish Unit or whatver his name was closer so he could realize how slow his pos is compared to a good old LT1
IS SLOW....GET THE POINT??? How many times do I have to say it.
It's a gosh damned street car.
BUT...10's @ 130's are ok fora street car on blower and a 17" drag radial.
I'll have to get a nitrous pass in sometime soon.
...and a 700rwhp car is nothing special. I understand that. Apparently
you don't. 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 second cars are all slow to me. Your boy
running his mouth about Mustangs while he's driving a hunk of ****
14 second car doesn't make any sense.
Having a buddy with a fast car doesn't mean ****. Here's a good
friends car:
http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...nMillen693.wmv
That is a real car. You don't see him here calling out your big bad
700rwhp car do you? Maybe you should drop everything in your life
and drive 1,000 miles to race my friend. Sounds pretty ******* stupid
doesn't it? Give me a break.
Sticking a fork in this one...
