stock 6-speed LT1 vs. S/C auto 4.6L Stang
10-15-2007, 10:13 AM
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it raises the compression ratio to 10:6:1 the combustion chamber in the pi heads are smaller. the 96-98 gt's have 10 or 11 (i cant remember) cc dished pistons where the 99-04's are 17cc. so when combining the flatter pistons with the smaller combustion chamber it gives it a good boost in compression
10-15-2007, 10:16 AM
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a M5 mach 1 would not walk me
at all i dont even think it will beat me with a CAI only like my car i have seen one at the track with the ram air replaced with a K&N CAI and at least a catback cause i could hear it when he ran it wasn't stock exhaust. but even at that it only ran a 14.2 @ 99mph how the hell do you think that would walk me.
at all i dont even think it will beat me with a CAI only like my car i have seen one at the track with the ram air replaced with a K&N CAI and at least a catback cause i could hear it when he ran it wasn't stock exhaust. but even at that it only ran a 14.2 @ 99mph how the hell do you think that would walk me.
10-15-2007, 01:04 PM
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umm i beg to differ i rode in my buddys 255 rwhp 5-speed GT and while i was in the car he beat a mach 1 5-speed now he only beat him by a half a car but i beat my buddys GT 3-4 cars depending on how fast we go. and even if the mach 1 was all stock i dont see him getting much faster with a CAI only.
10-15-2007, 01:06 PM
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It depends on the race you are talking about. I know a guy that has less mods than I do, but has 4.10s and he's an amazing driver. Ran a 13.2x @ ~104mph. He would probably still lose to a Mach from a roll, but at the track it would be damn close. The gears REALLY wake up mod-motor cars.
10-15-2007, 01:27 PM
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It depends on the race you are talking about. I know a guy that has less mods than I do, but has 4.10s and he's an amazing driver. Ran a 13.2x @ ~104mph. He would probably still lose to a Mach from a roll, but at the track it would be damn close. The gears REALLY wake up mod-motor cars.
10-15-2007, 03:45 PM
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with my 4 10s,drs and some bolt ons i rape 2v gts .i ran alot of them and the only one that gave me a loss was my friends.and thats with everything.weight reduction,rear seat delete, gears and all bolt ons and tune.NO way a 255 rwhp gt beat a mach 1.plus we have the extra rpm in the m5.mach 1> lt1
10-15-2007, 07:40 PM
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i hate when you guys pull stuff out of context I NEVER SAID HE WALKED A MACH 1 I SAID HE BEAT ONE AND I BEAT HIM 
sorry that i riled all you guys up i didn't know that mach 1's had 290 rwhp but its not my fault if all the mach 1's i have seen ran slow i guess all the guys i have seen in mach 1's suck at driving. i am not an expert on stangs and i never will pretend to be one but i didn't think they were much more than a GT with a ram air and gears. all i know is that i beat a S/C'd 4.6 GT from a roll and a dig. all you mustang guys can get off your soapbox ill just assume all mustangs will beat me unless i actually race them and win.
sorry that i riled all you guys up i didn't know that mach 1's had 290 rwhp but its not my fault if all the mach 1's i have seen ran slow i guess all the guys i have seen in mach 1's suck at driving. i am not an expert on stangs and i never will pretend to be one but i didn't think they were much more than a GT with a ram air and gears. all i know is that i beat a S/C'd 4.6 GT from a roll and a dig. all you mustang guys can get off your soapbox ill just assume all mustangs will beat me unless i actually race them and win.
10-15-2007, 07:51 PM
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Dawg, dawg , dawg.
That dohc ****, is for the birds. Especially the 97's. I had one,..at the time, it was my favortie thing. I also went 13.2,...and I was 19. I'm 28 now. I also, went through,..count, 7 motors. Thats six blown up ones, and one good one, that I sold the car with. Nothing against the 4v's..other then ford, turning my love for mustangs to not very much at all. Your motor, isn't that great. Good idea but,...it has alot of issues. Hence, why modern ones,...or cast. Blown motors weren't the only problem. I popped 19 serpentine belts,...on upshifts. I got soo good at it, I could do it on cue. They ended up puting (if I remember correctly) a 99 and up tensioner on the car,...cause the earlier years,...would bend.
Anyways.
Madmike,...nice job G.
Sprayjunkie(member here in my sig) and I raced a modded 2v gt, automatic, a ways back. That car had a blower on it. Sprayjunkie, had a lid, and an LS6 cam, low compression 6.0 heads,...and that is it. Car made like just over 300whp. We WALKED THAT STANG soo bad,..I was really dissapointed. I honestly felt bad for the guy.
Anyways...sorry for the rant.
10-15-2007, 10:20 PM
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i hate when you guys pull stuff out of context I NEVER SAID HE WALKED A MACH 1 I SAID HE BEAT ONE AND I BEAT HIM sorry that i riled all you guys up i didn't know that mach 1's had 290 rwhp but its not my fault if all the mach 1's i have seen ran slow i guess all the guys i have seen in mach 1's suck at driving. i am not an expert on stangs and i never will pretend to be one but i didn't think they were much more than a GT with a ram air and gears. all i know is that i beat a S/C'd 4.6 GT from a roll and a dig. all you mustang guys can get off your soapbox ill just assume all mustangs will beat me unless i actually race them and win.
sorry that i riled all you guys up i didn't know that mach 1's had 290 rwhp but its not my fault if all the mach 1's i have seen ran slow i guess all the guys i have seen in mach 1's suck at driving. i am not an expert on stangs and i never will pretend to be one but i didn't think they were much more than a GT with a ram air and gears. all i know is that i beat a S/C'd 4.6 GT from a roll and a dig. all you mustang guys can get off your soapbox ill just assume all mustangs will beat me unless i actually race them and win.
10-16-2007, 07:21 AM
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mach 1s can be beat by anything with the right set up.just does not sound right that the gt beat a mach 1 and he beats the gt so that makes the lt1 faster than the mach 1.I put 1 car on a auto c6 last night from 10 to 90 but that does not make my car faster than all c6s
10-16-2007, 09:25 AM
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i hate when you guys pull stuff out of context I NEVER SAID HE WALKED A MACH 1 I SAID HE BEAT ONE AND I BEAT HIM sorry that i riled all you guys up i didn't know that mach 1's had 290 rwhp but its not my fault if all the mach 1's i have seen ran slow i guess all the guys i have seen in mach 1's suck at driving. i am not an expert on stangs and i never will pretend to be one but i didn't think they were much more than a GT with a ram air and gears. all i know is that i beat a S/C'd 4.6 GT from a roll and a dig. all you mustang guys can get off your soapbox ill just assume all mustangs will beat me unless i actually race them and win.
sorry that i riled all you guys up i didn't know that mach 1's had 290 rwhp but its not my fault if all the mach 1's i have seen ran slow i guess all the guys i have seen in mach 1's suck at driving. i am not an expert on stangs and i never will pretend to be one but i didn't think they were much more than a GT with a ram air and gears. all i know is that i beat a S/C'd 4.6 GT from a roll and a dig. all you mustang guys can get off your soapbox ill just assume all mustangs will beat me unless i actually race them and win.
10-16-2007, 11:45 AM
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i hate when you guys pull stuff out of context I NEVER SAID HE WALKED A MACH 1 I SAID HE BEAT ONE AND I BEAT HIM sorry that i riled all you guys up i didn't know that mach 1's had 290 rwhp but its not my fault if all the mach 1's i have seen ran slow i guess all the guys i have seen in mach 1's suck at driving. i am not an expert on stangs and i never will pretend to be one but i didn't think they were much more than a GT with a ram air and gears. .
sorry that i riled all you guys up i didn't know that mach 1's had 290 rwhp but its not my fault if all the mach 1's i have seen ran slow i guess all the guys i have seen in mach 1's suck at driving. i am not an expert on stangs and i never will pretend to be one but i didn't think they were much more than a GT with a ram air and gears. .
10-16-2007, 12:26 PM
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The cars your comparing are day and night . A full bolt on 2v GT doesnt even put out what a mach does stock. Ones a 4v 320 hp car the others a 2v 260 hp car. The GT runs LT1 times(most of the times slower) and a mach One runs deep in the 13's (similar to LS1's but they dont trap as much). A Mach 1 will anniliate a Lt1 stock for stock and is a good race for a Ls1.