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Old 10-13-2007 | 04:06 AM
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ok here it is a tuesday night i had just got off of work and while i was leaving i saw a 98 mustang i knew from the taillights. i pulled up on him and kinda looked it over and it sounded good and he had a lot of A pillar guages so i got up to a 20 roll and he matched me and gave the three honks and i launched out probably 2 cars or more on him it was an auto i could tell. i only ran up to 90 then let off cause i thought the light in around the corner was red but anyways i ran him again from like 10 a very slow roll but i still launched out on him but halfway through 4th gear i heard a whinning noise he slowly was catching me well i pulled over and talked to him and he had a sohc 4.6 with a centrifigal S/C and it was at 8-10 lbs is what he told me also longtubes x pipe and straight pipes over the axle, and tune but im thinking to be S/C'd and got beat by my stock LT1 he either had serious trans slippage or a very bad tune, but it deffinitely sounded nasty. o well sorry for the long post but i was just really excited that i beat a S/C mustang from 10-120 mph. i think the guy was pretty dissapointed when he asked what i had done and i said its stock with a CAI and clutch.
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good kill, those stangs only have 225 chp stock i wonder how much he was puttin to the wheels with the s/c.
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Originally Posted by MadMike 97 Z28
ok here it is a tuesday night i had just got off of work and while i was leaving i saw a 98 mustang i knew from the taillights. i pulled up on him and kinda looked it over and it sounded good and he had a lot of A pillar guages so i got up to a 20 roll and he matched me and gave the three honks and i launched out probably 2 cars or more on him it was an auto i could tell. i only ran up to 90 then let off cause i thought the light in around the corner was red but anyways i ran him again from like 10 a very slow roll but i still launched out on him but halfway through 4th gear i heard a whinning noise he slowly was catching me well i pulled over and talked to him and he had a sohc 4.6 with a centrifigal S/C and it was at 8-10 lbs is what he told me also longtubes x pipe and straight pipes over the axle, and tune but im thinking to be S/C'd and got beat by my stock LT1 he either had serious trans slippage or a very bad tune, but it deffinitely sounded nasty. o well sorry for the long post but i was just really excited that i beat a S/C mustang from 10-120 mph. i think the guy was pretty dissapointed when he asked what i had done and i said its stock with a CAI and clutch.
Awesome kills man, had a few like that myself, it makes you really love the lt1
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Good kill. It was probably making 280 to the wheels.
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Good kill to the OP! Early non pi-sohc mustangs dynoed somewhere in the 190-205rwhp range. With the mods he had I'd say he'd probably dyno @ 280 like RedZ said.
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Good kill to the OP! Early non pi-sohc mustangs dynoed somewhere in the 190-205rwhp range. With the mods he had I'd say he'd probably dyno @ 280 like RedZ said.


WOW that is crazy low
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Dissapointing isn't it.

Good kill on the Stang.
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WOW that is crazy low
Yeah it is.. but it makes them cheap and with a PI swap for around 1300 and some decent cams you could have a low 13/high 12 car for under 7000. I wish I had bought a 96-98GT or 94-95 Cobra as far as a project car goes. I love my 97's top end!
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i just dynoed my car at 276 rwhp and 317 tq. so im thinking that stang was in the low 260's

THE TRUE MEANING OF MUSTANG. LOL!!!!
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and sometimes they still lose.
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Originally Posted by MadMike 97 Z28
i just dynoed my car at 276 rwhp and 317 tq. so im thinking that stang was in the low 260's

THE TRUE MEANING OF MUSTANG. LOL!!!!
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and most of the time they still lose.
Fixed it for ya.
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I'd definitely have to say that the 96-98 Cobra is my favorite mustang (very close second being the 03-04 Mach 1). However, I'd love to pick up a 96-98 GT and build it up with PI parts. It'd make a real nice sleeper!
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97 Cobra's come with the 4.6

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4v engines!
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BOWTIE
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Can't America Make A Real One?

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Originally Posted by MadMike 97 Z28
i just dynoed my car at 276 rwhp and 317 tq. so im thinking that stang was in the low 260's

THE TRUE MEANING OF MUSTANG. LOL!!!!
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General motors

and sometimes they still lose.

What all mods do you have on your car to make 276 rwhp and 317 tq? I have a 96 six speed Z28 with a throttle body bypass. What should my car dyno?
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
I'd definitely have to say that the 96-98 Cobra is my favorite mustang (very close second being the 03-04 Mach 1). However, I'd love to pick up a 96-98 GT and build it up with PI parts. It'd make a real nice sleeper!
Same here, although I like the 03/04 Mach 1 a little better. I like the looks of it, as well as the engine. And a close second is the 94-98 Cobra. I'd take the 94/95 5.0 or the 96-98 4.6 4v. Wouldn't matter to me. One of my planned future projects is a 94/95 5.0, so I might just have to ****** up a Cobra model. They look so sleek and clean.
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I was looking at a red 1996 Cobra with only 53,000 miles on it. They are a bit more money than I'd like to spend though. I think the asking price was $11,000 and change. Like I said, a 1996-1998 GT with PI parts and a power adder would make a very nice daily driver/sleeper. I'm just not sure how far I want to take my Z28 before I consider it finished so I can start a new project. A couple times I tried having two projects at once, but it just costs too much.

If something ever happened to my Z28 though, then I think I'd be debating whether to get a 96-98 Cobra, or an 05-06 GTO
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
I was looking at a red 1996 Cobra with only 53,000 miles on it. They are a bit more money than I'd like to spend though. I think the asking price was $11,000 and change. Like I said, a 1996-1998 GT with PI parts and a power adder would make a very nice daily driver/sleeper. I'm just not sure how far I want to take my Z28 before I consider it finished so I can start a new project. A couple times I tried having two projects at once, but it just costs too much.

If something ever happened to my Z28 though, then I think I'd be debating whether to get a 96-98 Cobra, or an 05-06 GTO
That was my plan with the '98 GT I used to have... I actually had all the parts I was gonna use except for one cylinder head and ran out of time and $$$. Ended up just swapping the cams and intake manifold (headgasket change). But I wanted to have the heads ported and milled down for a bit more compression, do cams, LTs, 4.10s... that would have caught a lot of people off guard.
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Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
What all mods do you have on your car to make 276 rwhp and 317 tq? I have a 96 six speed Z28 with a throttle body bypass. What should my car dyno?
well all my car has is K&N CAI, GM 1LE intake elbow, SLP Throttle body air foil.

as far as your car i asked what people thought i would dyno and they told me most stock 6-speeds can range from 250's to 260's but i pulled 275 to the wheels so im not sure. but i know that all LT1's are rated at 275 FLYWHEEL HP but 97's for some reason are rated at 285 to the flywheel. but it can vary alot it all depends on how accurate the dyno is my car could very well dyno 10 hp less on another dyno.
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Originally Posted by 94Mustang302ci
97 Cobra's come with the 4.6

Destroyer
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Camaros

4v engines!
sorry guys didnt mean to upset anyone i was just joking. but i dont see dohc 4.6 with same mods as me beating me theres no replacement for displacement all other things equal a CAI only dohc 4.6 will not beat my pushrod 5.7 ford just should have come to play with a few more cubes and then this wouldn't be such a lopsided rivalry.

ok now that i said it lets hear it i think i just initiated a Camaro vs. Mustang arguement. o well.

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Old 10-14-2007 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MadMike 97 Z28
sorry guys didnt mean to upset anyone i was just joking. but i dont see dohc 4.6 with same mods as me beating me theres no replacement for displacement all other things equal a CAI only dohc 4.6 will not beat a my pushrod 5.7 ford just should have come to play with a few more cubes and then this wouldn't be such a lopsided rivalry.

ok now that i said it lets hear it i think i just initiated a Camaro vs. Mustang arguement. o well.
i think an m5 mach 1 with the same mods as you would probably walk you.


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