Street Racing & Kill Stories Basic Technical Questions & Advice

Beat a Heads/Cam Supercharged Cobra

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-24-2007, 09:26 AM
  #21  
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
Stopsign32v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 191
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 88blackgt
i dont think you guys understand, b303 with boost is worthless most of the time, some people switch back to stock cams and gain power. about the only reason to use a b on a boosted motor is if its already in and you dont feel like taking it out. and omega, paying for an aftermarket aluminum head that only flows 10% better(AT MOST) than what you started with = VERY POOR CHOICE, especially considering the huge selection of aftermarket heads available for a sbf.
Man you're wasting your time. I didn't even feel like getting into 5.0 tech on this site so I kept my mouth shut here... I do think its funny these guys think the GT40X heads are good though. Hell the GT40P heads will get you into the low 12's at worst! ok ok I'll stop
Old 10-24-2007, 09:59 AM
  #22  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
lilbuddy1587's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Posts: 1,691
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Man you're wasting your time. I didn't even feel like getting into 5.0 tech on this site so I kept my mouth shut here... I do think its funny these guys think the GT40X heads are good though. Hell the GT40P heads will get you into the low 12's at worst! ok ok I'll stop
But the point he's (Omega) is trying to make regardless of the poor choices the 5.0 owner chose, the car was still a heads/cam/supercharged car. So, just because the OP is a "cam only" LT1 and beat the H/C/I S-charged car, why down play the kill because of the cobra's poor choices for his/her setup? We all know anything and everything can happen on the street but on paper have a different out come.
Old 10-24-2007, 10:23 AM
  #23  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (25)
 
DopdBrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Garden City, KS
Posts: 2,529
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Well the LT1 won because its an Fbody and quite frankly Fbody are the greatest invention since sliced bread!! HAHA

I had a 5.0 and it wasn't the heavy SN95 body style either, it was a Fox. It was a good car but it could not keep up with a Fbody for nothing. I always heard that the E303 was actually a better cam for FI than any other, at least that is what a couple of builders told me.

And as far as the GT40X's go, the E7's are a WAY better head, especially when you get some port work done to them.

Just as in the Fbody world, the Ford Racing stuff was proven back in the day, but now there is way better stuff out there.

Sorry for the long post but here's a little story. Friend of mine has a 95 331 Stroker with Ford Racing GT40X's, an F cam (i think) with bolt ons. He was spraying a 150 shot and only ran a 13.1 compared to my 12.66 when we were both on MT ET Street Radials. Couple of weeks ago, he replaced the GT40's with AFR185's and a Comp "off the shelf grind" cam. After some awesome dyno tuning, we went out and ran em.

Me on a 150 shot and him all motor he pulled 1 to 1.5 cars on me. Those heads and that different cam WOKE THAT CAR UP.

I'm not saying that the OP beat the Cobra because the car had a horrbile choice on parts, but that car would have probably easily been a low 13 sec to high 12 sec car and the LT1 was just a faster car.

Great kill!
Old 10-24-2007, 12:15 PM
  #24  
Launching!
 
kens03cobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Charlie Town, WV
Posts: 238
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Nice kill, now go pick on the big boys.

And what is this blue blood talk, I don't even like blue



Ken
Old 10-24-2007, 04:27 PM
  #25  
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
Stopsign32v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 191
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
But the point he's (Omega) is trying to make regardless of the poor choices the 5.0 owner chose, the car was still a heads/cam/supercharged car. So, just because the OP is a "cam only" LT1 and beat the H/C/I S-charged car, why down play the kill because of the cobra's poor choices for his/her setup? We all know anything and everything can happen on the street but on paper have a different out come.
Yea it is but its the bottom of the food chain h/c/i + blower setup. Hell I don't know of a much WORSE setup he could have done. If he would have gone with better heads, intake, and cam he could have picked up an easy 100+rwhp.
Old 10-24-2007, 04:42 PM
  #26  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (3)
 
z_speedfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: limbo
Posts: 2,124
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

good kill OP!
Old 10-25-2007, 03:46 PM
  #27  
Teching In
 
Socalmach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by kens03cobra
Nice kill, now go pick on the big boys.

And what is this blue blood talk, I don't even like blue



Ken


Good kill on the Fox.
Old 10-25-2007, 04:43 PM
  #28  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (2)
 
SS101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 807
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Yea it is but its the bottom of the food chain h/c/i + blower setup. Hell I don't know of a much WORSE setup he could have done. If he would have gone with better heads, intake, and cam he could have picked up an easy 100+rwhp.
there's still something to be said for a CAM ONLY car beating a HEADS+CAM+INTAKE+SUPERCHARGED car

...

i can think of a worse combo...its called stock - kinda like the lt1 was running
Old 10-25-2007, 08:38 PM
  #29  
TECH Apprentice
 
TXFORMULA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 313
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i say if the mustang was trying its a kill...
Old 10-25-2007, 09:31 PM
  #30  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
speedshifterNC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 575
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

who cares?...the fact is he beat the mustang with the driver that should have rethought his combo before racing.
Old 10-25-2007, 11:26 PM
  #31  
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
Stopsign32v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 191
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SS101
there's still something to be said for a CAM ONLY car beating a HEADS+CAM+INTAKE+SUPERCHARGED car

...

i can think of a worse combo...its called stock - kinda like the lt1 was running
WOPTY DOO!!! I could beat a CAM ONLY lt1 with a SUPERCHARGER ONLY 5.0

Can you imagine what the F-body guys would say if a H/C/I 5.0 said he destroyed a CAM ONLY LT1 then come to find out the LT1's cam was out of a 97 Blazer? Then the Mustang guys said "WELP fact is he still swaped out the cam!!!"

I tell you what, my car is a H/C/I + boosted car ONLY...find a LT1 that has the same mods as the OPer and I'll show you what a good combination will do for the 5.0! Hell I never said this wasn't a good kill I'm just pointing out FACTS. If you don't like it move on!
Old 10-25-2007, 11:27 PM
  #32  
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
Stopsign32v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 191
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by speedshifterNC
who cares?...the fact is he beat the mustang with the driver that should have rethought his combo before racing.
I agree 110%!!! Sux for him but run what ya brung!
Old 10-26-2007, 09:42 AM
  #33  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (2)
 
SS101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 807
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
WOPTY DOO!!! I could beat a CAM ONLY lt1 with a SUPERCHARGER ONLY 5.0

Can you imagine what the F-body guys would say if a H/C/I 5.0 said he destroyed a CAM ONLY LT1 then come to find out the LT1's cam was out of a 97 Blazer? Then the Mustang guys said "WELP fact is he still swaped out the cam!!!"

I tell you what, my car is a H/C/I + boosted car ONLY...find a LT1 that has the same mods as the OPer and I'll show you what a good combination will do for the 5.0! Hell I never said this wasn't a good kill I'm just pointing out FACTS. If you don't like it move on!
maybe you could...maybe a lot of people COULD, this is the kill section tho, where "coulds" are shunned. the fact, as you claim to be pointing out, is this: a blown h/c/i 5.0 got beat by a cam only lt1. 5.0 had more mods (good or bad, a mod is a mod), more money sunk into it, and more power potential per dollar of mods than the lt1...and its not even as if the lt1 got lucky, the mustang was just plain slower.

these are the facts
Old 10-26-2007, 09:51 AM
  #34  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
lilbuddy1587's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Posts: 1,691
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Can you imagine what the F-body guys would say if a H/C/I 5.0 said he destroyed a CAM ONLY LT1 then come to find out the LT1's cam was out of a 97 Blazer? Then the Mustang guys said "WELP fact is he still swaped out the cam!!!"
Hell I never said this wasn't a good kill I'm just pointing out FACTS. If you don't like it move on!

That's a little far fetched bro. The 5.0 had aftermarket parts, just not the most wise as you guys say.
Old 10-26-2007, 10:28 AM
  #35  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
JUSTONY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Las Vegas, NV / Flint, MI
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

No matter what........Nice Kill!
Old 10-27-2007, 07:06 PM
  #36  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Omega Doom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: DFW,TX
Posts: 1,529
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 16 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Yea it is but its the bottom of the food chain h/c/i + blower setup. Hell I don't know of a much WORSE setup he could have done. If he would have gone with better heads, intake, and cam he could have picked up an easy 100+rwhp.
yea, try this combo iron GT40p's with a crane 20/20 and 6lb powerdyne! for a whopping total rwhp of 50rwhp!
Old 10-27-2007, 07:44 PM
  #37  
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
Stopsign32v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 191
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Omega Doom
yea, try this combo iron GT40p's with a crane 20/20 and 6lb powerdyne! for a whopping total rwhp of 50rwhp!
Then you will have a mid 14 second H/C/I blown car.
Old 10-27-2007, 10:34 PM
  #38  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Omega Doom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: DFW,TX
Posts: 1,529
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 16 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Then you will have a mid 14 second H/C/I blown car.
LOL
Old 10-28-2007, 03:12 PM
  #39  
TECH Enthusiast
 
88blackgt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Then you will have a mid 14 second H/C/I blown car.
that is until the powerdyne ***** itself and you've got a messed up blower AND motor. it will happen sooner or later, its just a matter of time.



Quick Reply: Beat a Heads/Cam Supercharged Cobra



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:31 AM.