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Old 10-18-2007, 11:07 PM
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I ran into a guy at Wawa tonight in a '95 Cobra so I ran him in the WS6 from a dig. He had full exhaust, GT-40x Heads, Ford Racing B Cam, Vortech Supercharger running 7lbs., and the other usual stuff. He had the shitty stock 2.73's but he claimed to have 350 some rwhp and 385rwtq so I figured id give it a shot since Im making 330rwhp with my auto I figured it would be a decent race but the sound of the super charger scared me a bit. We went to a straight strip on a backroad and let it rip. He spun a little in first and so did I but I immediately jumped out on him hard and he was gaining slighty but after 90 or 100 or so I was 2-3 cars ahead of him. Im just happy that a cam only LT1 beat a Cobra with Heads/Cam and a Supercharger. Im glad I never got a Mustang like I was about to lol.
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Nice kill. Got any quarter mile times for the TA?
Old 10-18-2007, 11:46 PM
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good kill

sounds like someone didnt do their research when they put their car together. wasted the time getting gt40xs when he's already got gt40 irons, b cam is not good, and then w/ a blower. only ford racing cam that is ok w/ boost is f cam. all that and doesnt get gears.

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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
Im just happy that a cam only LT1 beat a Cobra with Heads/Cam and a Supercharger. Im glad I never got a Mustang like I was about to lol.
Good kill man! But his heads were stock and his cam was barely better than stock. The B/E/F/X cams that Ford offers are out dated. These are cams that were designed in the early 90's and since then technology has gone a long way.
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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
only ford racing cam that is ok w/ boost is f cam.
I agree, I wish I had that cam in my car.
Old 10-18-2007, 11:56 PM
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Good kill. His numbers and performance seem off for that many mods. Bad combination???

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Good kill bro, I wont hate on ya cus the best part about street racing is kicking the **** out of more powerful cars.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Good kill man! But his heads were stock and his cam was barely better than stock. The B/E/F/X cams that Ford offers are out dated. These are cams that were designed in the early 90's and since then technology has gone a long way.
stop it already! the B303 has proven itself time after time although ancient a good little cam specs are 224/224@50 480./480. lift 284 duration which way more then stock and the GT40X aluminum head was guaranteed to put down 40-60rwhp depending so get out of here with that "stock" crap cause' they sure as hell didn't come from Ford with those heads! good kill OP on the Heads,cammed,full exhaust and SUPERCHARGED SN95 car!
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Originally Posted by Omega Doom
stop it already! the B303 has proven itself time after time although ancient a good little cam specs are 224/224@50 480./480. lift 284 duration which way more then stock and the GT40X aluminum head was guaranteed to put down 40-60rwhp depending so get out of here with that "stock" crap cause' they sure as hell didn't come from Ford with those heads! good kill OP on the Heads,cammed,full exhaust and SUPERCHARGED SN95 car!
lol b-303 usually does not work w/ well with a boosted setup. boost + overlap = boo. a majority of people who add boost w/ a b303 have poor results, aside from a few success stories.

and since it was a cobra, it came stock w/ what are basicly gt40 irons. those power increases were an improvement over the e7s found on the gt/lx. the gt40xs are a slightly revised gt40 made of aluminum, aka its not worth ditching gt40s for gt40xs.
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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
lol b-303 usually does not work w/ well with a boosted setup. boost + overlap = boo. a majority of people who add boost w/ a b303 have poor results, aside from a few success stories.

and since it was a cobra, it came stock w/ what are basicly gt40 irons. those power increases were an improvement over the e7s found on the gt/lx. the gt40xs are a slightly revised gt40 made of aluminum, aka its not worth ditching gt40s for gt40xs.
better do some more research snoop? there has been many good ET's using the ol' tried and true B303 and since the iron GT40's are worth only about 20rwhp over the E7's the GT40X was one step over the GT aluminum which was 20-30rwhp over the iron GT40 with bigger valves and better combustion chambers! and any aluminum head is worth ditching over ford's heavy *** iron head's!
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Originally Posted by Omega Doom
better do some more research snoop? there has been many good ET's using the ol' tried and true B303 and since the iron GT40's are worth only about 20rwhp over the E7's the GT40X was one step over the GT aluminum which was 20-30rwhp over the iron GT40 with bigger valves and better combustion chambers! and any aluminum head is worth ditching over ford's heavy *** iron head's!
what are you trying to say here? the gt40x has minor gains over a gt40 iron, and almost no gain over gt40ps. gt40 to gt40x is less than 10% increase in flow. hell when alot of people go boosted they go back to a stock cam as opposed to an alphabet(excluding e and f)
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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
what are you trying to say here? the gt40x has minor gains over a gt40 iron, and almost no gain over gt40ps. gt40 to gt40x is less than 10% increase in flow. hell when alot of people go boosted they go back to a stock cam as opposed to an alphabet(excluding e and f)
where did you read that? you were the one trying to say that? and NOBODY goes back to a stock cam once they have gone boosted! get outta here with this nonsense the point being once again a "blue blood" is trying to trash the OP's win by trying to tarnish the mods to the victim in this case! point being, is a Ford 303 cam stock=no it's aftermarket,is the GT40X aluminum head even close to being stock=hell no way better then the E7's and iron GT40, is 88blackgt trying the ol' smoke and mirror routine on another LS1 kill=as usual!

unit213- these are the "blue bloods" i'm always reffering to,only posting and tarnishing OP kills story's, once again good kill OP on the H/C/I full exhausted tremec tko'd 5 speed pro shifted tranny and SUPERCHARGED SN95 Stang! now lock it up! I'm thru!
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Originally Posted by Omega Doom
where did you read that? you were the one trying to say that? and NOBODY goes back to a stock cam once they have gone boosted! get outta here with this nonsense the point being once again a "blue blood" is trying to trash the OP's win by trying to tarnish the mods to the victim in this case! point being, is a Ford 303 cam stock=no it's aftermarket,is the GT40X aluminum head even close to being stock=hell no way better then the E7's and iron GT40, is 88blackgt trying the ol' smoke and mirror routine on another LS1 kill=as usual!

unit213- these are the "blue bloods" i'm always reffering to,only posting and tarnishing OP kills story's, once again good kill OP on the H/C/I full exhausted tremec tko'd 5 speed pro shifted tranny and SUPERCHARGED SN95 Stang! now lock it up! I'm thru!
wow you make absolutely no sense. i proved the point that there are minimal gains going from gt40 irons to gt40xs, despite your not agreeing. i also pointed out that the b303 was less than ideal for boost, due to alot of overlap. you must have missed where i said good kill. only point was that the pony did a poor job of researching before building. get over the whole "blue blood" bullshit. you turn every thread w/ a non-ls1 poster into ****.
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Good kill OP....Your gears and consistant auto def. did a great job.


For the 'other' conversation..I have heard the same about the GT40 swaps ont eh Cobra's..but I dont' know much about them.
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Originally Posted by tj1986c
Nice kill. Got any quarter mile times for the TA?
nope no times yet but I was running 13.3's-4's before gears, cam, rockers, dyno tuning, suspension, and drag radials so somewhere in the 12's.
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Originally Posted by Omega Doom
where did you read that? you were the one trying to say that? and NOBODY goes back to a stock cam once they have gone boosted! get outta here with this nonsense the point being once again a "blue blood" is trying to trash the OP's win by trying to tarnish the mods to the victim in this case! point being, is a Ford 303 cam stock=no it's aftermarket,is the GT40X aluminum head even close to being stock=hell no way better then the E7's and iron GT40, is 88blackgt trying the ol' smoke and mirror routine on another LS1 kill=as usual!

unit213- these are the "blue bloods" i'm always reffering to,only posting and tarnishing OP kills story's, once again good kill OP on the H/C/I full exhausted tremec tko'd 5 speed pro shifted tranny and SUPERCHARGED SN95 Stang! now lock it up! I'm thru!
I agree with what you're saying man but nothing will happen. This kind of stuff will never go away.

A B303 cam has very little overlap too, if any. So I'd like to know why its such a bad FI cam?

OP, great kill man. You've got a nice combo and a nice running LT1.
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
I agree with what you're saying man but nothing will happen. This kind of stuff will never go away.

A B303 cam has very little overlap too, if any. So I'd like to know why its such a bad FI cam?

OP, great kill man. You've got a nice combo and a nice running LT1.
my main point was that this guy is trying to make it seem like a B303 cam is barely better then stock(which it's not) and that the GT40X heads were just a bit better then the GT40's(which there alot better) just another "blue blood" trying to discredit the OP's legit and great kill! but you just have to get use to it on here!
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i dont think you guys understand, b303 with boost is worthless most of the time, some people switch back to stock cams and gain power. about the only reason to use a b on a boosted motor is if its already in and you dont feel like taking it out. and omega, paying for an aftermarket aluminum head that only flows 10% better(AT MOST) than what you started with = VERY POOR CHOICE, especially considering the huge selection of aftermarket heads available for a sbf.

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An aluminum gt40x head with an f- cam with traction and a good driver at least 12.40's if not better. With a good intake btw.With a super charger at 7psi high 11's at worst low 11's at best with a stock block.Good kill btw! a kill is a kill.
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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
i dont think you guys understand, b303 with boost is worthless most of the time, some people switch back to stock cams and gain power. about the only reason to use a b on a boosted motor is if its already in and you dont feel like taking it out. and omega, paying for an aftermarket aluminum head that only flows 10% better(AT MOST) than what you started with = VERY POOR CHOICE, especially considering the huge selection of aftermarket heads available for a sbf.
your saying the GT40X flows only 10% better then a iron GT40?


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