C6 modified V.S C6ZO6 !!!!!?!
11-10-2007, 12:46 PM
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C6 modified V.S C6ZO6 !!!!!?! ok now i have 2006 c6 6speed auto gearbox
ET cylinder head 215
b&b cat back
LS1-GT11 cam shaft duration ( 215 / 231 ) lift ( 631" / .644 ) lsa 118
costum filter kit
fast intake 90mm
comp lifters
it will be tuned by an hp tune program
stock torque converter
so tell me guys would ill be able to kick the stock c6 zo6 ???
cuz my friend has a c6 with ls6 stage 2.5 head and a texas speed cam and same setup as mine and i saw his race with a stock c6 zo6 he kick his ***.
in advantage i still got et215 heads it flows better than the ls6 stage 2.5 !!
so would ill be able to kick a c6 zo6???? cuz this is my goal to kick c6 zo6 with my c6 .
ET cylinder head 215
b&b cat back
LS1-GT11 cam shaft duration ( 215 / 231 ) lift ( 631" / .644 ) lsa 118
costum filter kit
fast intake 90mm
comp lifters
it will be tuned by an hp tune program
stock torque converter
so tell me guys would ill be able to kick the stock c6 zo6 ???
cuz my friend has a c6 with ls6 stage 2.5 head and a texas speed cam and same setup as mine and i saw his race with a stock c6 zo6 he kick his ***.
in advantage i still got et215 heads it flows better than the ls6 stage 2.5 !!
so would ill be able to kick a c6 zo6???? cuz this is my goal to kick c6 zo6 with my c6 .
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11-10-2007, 08:45 PM
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I'm gonna go with no, also. Even if you're making the same power, which you probably won't be with that setup, they have a weight advantage. Plus they just plain kick ***, so I'm going with no, anyways. 
By the way, what's up with that cam? Is it some sort of blower cam? That's pretty good sized lift for an LS2, but short duration with a HUGE split, not to mention a higher LSA than a stock LS1 cam. What's up with that?
By the way, what's up with that cam? Is it some sort of blower cam? That's pretty good sized lift for an LS2, but short duration with a HUGE split, not to mention a higher LSA than a stock LS1 cam. What's up with that?
11-10-2007, 11:44 PM
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ok now i have 2006 c6 6speed auto gearbox
ET cylinder head 215
b&b cat back
LS1-GT11 cam shaft duration ( 215 / 231 ) lift ( 631" / .644 ) lsa 118
costum filter kit
fast intake 90mm
comp lifters
it will be tuned by an hp tune program
stock torque converter
so tell me guys would ill be able to kick the stock c6 zo6 ???
cuz my friend has a c6 with ls6 stage 2.5 head and a texas speed cam and same setup as mine and i saw his race with a stock c6 zo6 he kick his ***.
in advantage i still got et215 heads it flows better than the ls6 stage 2.5 !!
so would ill be able to kick a c6 zo6???? cuz this is my goal to kick c6 zo6 with my c6 .
ET cylinder head 215
b&b cat back
LS1-GT11 cam shaft duration ( 215 / 231 ) lift ( 631" / .644 ) lsa 118
costum filter kit
fast intake 90mm
comp lifters
it will be tuned by an hp tune program
stock torque converter
so tell me guys would ill be able to kick the stock c6 zo6 ???
cuz my friend has a c6 with ls6 stage 2.5 head and a texas speed cam and same setup as mine and i saw his race with a stock c6 zo6 he kick his ***.
in advantage i still got et215 heads it flows better than the ls6 stage 2.5 !!
so would ill be able to kick a c6 zo6???? cuz this is my goal to kick c6 zo6 with my c6 .
now go race him....
11-11-2007, 12:02 AM
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At my local dyno were a good hundred LS1's have dynoed only 3 have hit over 400 rwhp SAE Naturally asperated on the stock cube 346..
Many people with H/C 402's and 408's only hit 440-470 rwhp. MANY as in atleaste half or more.
But now most are hitting 450 rwhp with there 346's?????
You'll need 205 AFR's plus a huge cam and every bolt on available and even then you still may not hit 450 rwhp.
Dont get me wrong..There have been some "SHOP BUILT" 346 LS1's that have hit 470-500 rwhp SAE...BUT these are top of the line components and have every bolt on and trick available to make the number.
Your typical guy who cant spend 10K at once to have a shop build his car and as well cant afford the best this/that, and actually uses his car to get from A to B is lucky to hit over 400 rwhp...
Go to the dyno section and see what the 408 CI guys are doing before you say such a thing
11-11-2007, 01:48 AM
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Dude are you smoking crack????Majority oh H/C LS1's hit 450 rwhp???????
At my local dyno were a good hundred LS1's have dynoed only 3 have hit over 400 rwhp SAE Naturally asperated on the stock cube 346..
Many people with H/C 402's and 408's only hit 440-470 rwhp. MANY as in atleaste half or more.
But now most are hitting 450 rwhp with there 346's?????
You'll need 205 AFR's plus a huge cam and every bolt on available and even then you still may not hit 450 rwhp.
Dont get me wrong..There have been some "SHOP BUILT" 346 LS1's that have hit 470-500 rwhp SAE...BUT these are top of the line components and have every bolt on and trick available to make the number.
Your typical guy who cant spend 10K at once to have a shop build his car and as well cant afford the best this/that, and actually uses his car to get from A to B is lucky to hit over 400 rwhp...
Go to the dyno section and see what the 408 CI guys are doing before you say such a thing
At my local dyno were a good hundred LS1's have dynoed only 3 have hit over 400 rwhp SAE Naturally asperated on the stock cube 346..
Many people with H/C 402's and 408's only hit 440-470 rwhp. MANY as in atleaste half or more.
But now most are hitting 450 rwhp with there 346's?????
You'll need 205 AFR's plus a huge cam and every bolt on available and even then you still may not hit 450 rwhp.
Dont get me wrong..There have been some "SHOP BUILT" 346 LS1's that have hit 470-500 rwhp SAE...BUT these are top of the line components and have every bolt on and trick available to make the number.
Your typical guy who cant spend 10K at once to have a shop build his car and as well cant afford the best this/that, and actually uses his car to get from A to B is lucky to hit over 400 rwhp...
Go to the dyno section and see what the 408 CI guys are doing before you say such a thing
christ man, calm down. no i don't smoke crack, thanks though.
anyways... i should have specified i didn't mean ls1's with an LS6 heads and hotcam, I meant a majority with more agressive setups (trying to leave budget builds out of this), i'm sure there was a misconception there. There's a shitload of cam-only setups over 400, and there's just as many in the 440-450 range.
11-11-2007, 03:00 AM
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Dude are you smoking crack????Majority oh H/C LS1's hit 450 rwhp???????
At my local dyno were a good hundred LS1's have dynoed only 3 have hit over 400 rwhp SAE Naturally asperated on the stock cube 346..
Many people with H/C 402's and 408's only hit 440-470 rwhp. MANY as in atleaste half or more.
But now most are hitting 450 rwhp with there 346's?????
You'll need 205 AFR's plus a huge cam and every bolt on available and even then you still may not hit 450 rwhp.
Dont get me wrong..There have been some "SHOP BUILT" 346 LS1's that have hit 470-500 rwhp SAE...BUT these are top of the line components and have every bolt on and trick available to make the number.
Your typical guy who cant spend 10K at once to have a shop build his car and as well cant afford the best this/that, and actually uses his car to get from A to B is lucky to hit over 400 rwhp...
Go to the dyno section and see what the 408 CI guys are doing before you say such a thing
At my local dyno were a good hundred LS1's have dynoed only 3 have hit over 400 rwhp SAE Naturally asperated on the stock cube 346..
Many people with H/C 402's and 408's only hit 440-470 rwhp. MANY as in atleaste half or more.
But now most are hitting 450 rwhp with there 346's?????
You'll need 205 AFR's plus a huge cam and every bolt on available and even then you still may not hit 450 rwhp.
Dont get me wrong..There have been some "SHOP BUILT" 346 LS1's that have hit 470-500 rwhp SAE...BUT these are top of the line components and have every bolt on and trick available to make the number.
Your typical guy who cant spend 10K at once to have a shop build his car and as well cant afford the best this/that, and actually uses his car to get from A to B is lucky to hit over 400 rwhp...
Go to the dyno section and see what the 408 CI guys are doing before you say such a thing
or maybe you live in the mountians......... i did 395hp in a cam only gto ls1 at that.......
11-11-2007, 04:10 AM
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My friends heads/cam Z28 did 420rwhp.
My friend that used to own a C5 FRC did 470rwhp on a cam and port and polished LS6 heads... then again, that dyno was from Sinergy and their dyno always reads a lot higher then all the other ones... now he has a C6 Z06 with headers, intake, exhaust making 505rwhp.. not bad at all.
Another friend with a C6 vert is making 415rwhp on 20 inch rims with a cam only... pretty big cam though. He also has a stall. Sick *** sounding car.
My friend that used to own a C5 FRC did 470rwhp on a cam and port and polished LS6 heads... then again, that dyno was from Sinergy and their dyno always reads a lot higher then all the other ones... now he has a C6 Z06 with headers, intake, exhaust making 505rwhp.. not bad at all.
Another friend with a C6 vert is making 415rwhp on 20 inch rims with a cam only... pretty big cam though. He also has a stall. Sick *** sounding car.
11-11-2007, 02:41 PM
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I'm gonna go with no, also. Even if you're making the same power, which you probably won't be with that setup, they have a weight advantage. Plus they just plain kick ***, so I'm going with no, anyways.
By the way, what's up with that cam? Is it some sort of blower cam? That's pretty good sized lift for an LS2, but short duration with a HUGE split, not to mention a higher LSA than a stock LS1 cam. What's up with that?
By the way, what's up with that cam? Is it some sort of blower cam? That's pretty good sized lift for an LS2, but short duration with a HUGE split, not to mention a higher LSA than a stock LS1 cam. What's up with that?
i couldnt find any cam with high duration and high lift and wide lsa .
some guys did got 430rwhp and 450rwhp on ls1 engines with head/cam+fast intake !!!!!!!! and i got ls2 engine in my car why is it hard to get more hp than the ls1!!!!
check this c6 470rwhp !! http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...gk=270&t=rides
im not that good in heads but my head is way better than the stage 3r livernois !! also my cam .
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there is almost zero chance of beating the 427 with a n\a 346 cubed ls1. To even match the 427 in horse power would cause you to loose everything in the low to mid range. all streetability would be gone and you still would not beat him. he has a 400 lb weight advantage and a torque curve that a large diesel would envy. Nitrous may even it up if you have a 250 shot, or go forced induction (can you say big bucks). Good luck and have fun! (even if you lose)
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yeah one other thing my friend has a c6 and he race a c6 zo6 as i mensioned in my thread --- he kicked the zo6 !!! and the zo6 owner was a good driver !!
my friend c6 has ls6 prc stae 2.5 head and texas speed cam !!
im still got better setup than him .
my friend c6 has ls6 prc stae 2.5 head and texas speed cam !!
im still got better setup than him .
11-11-2007, 02:46 PM
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I guess it's just one of those things Ill have to see for myself to start beleaving. Ive just seen too many H/C cars fall between 390-420 rwhp and too many 408's hit 440-470 rwhp to beleave that it's easy for an LS1 to hit 450 rwhp NA.
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Z06's trapp 122-127 mph bone stock. C6's trapp 112-117 bone stock...
Making up 10 mph is HARD
Just dosent seem likely that your set up made up the 10 mph differance...
Then again there are weak C6Z06's out there.. On the same dyno were my buddies stock C6Z06 put down 455 rwhp another C6Z06 a weak prior put down 428 rwhp...
Maybe your friends is a weaker one????
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Dude are you smoking crack????Majority oh H/C LS1's hit 450 rwhp???????
At my local dyno were a good hundred LS1's have dynoed only 3 have hit over 400 rwhp SAE Naturally asperated on the stock cube 346..
Many people with H/C 402's and 408's only hit 440-470 rwhp. MANY as in atleaste half or more.
But now most are hitting 450 rwhp with there 346's?????
You'll need 205 AFR's plus a huge cam and every bolt on available and even then you still may not hit 450 rwhp.
At my local dyno were a good hundred LS1's have dynoed only 3 have hit over 400 rwhp SAE Naturally asperated on the stock cube 346..
Many people with H/C 402's and 408's only hit 440-470 rwhp. MANY as in atleaste half or more.
But now most are hitting 450 rwhp with there 346's?????
You'll need 205 AFR's plus a huge cam and every bolt on available and even then you still may not hit 450 rwhp.
11-11-2007, 04:08 PM
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Dude are you smoking crack????Majority oh H/C LS1's hit 450 rwhp???????
At my local dyno were a good hundred LS1's have dynoed only 3 have hit over 400 rwhp SAE Naturally asperated on the stock cube 346..
Many people with H/C 402's and 408's only hit 440-470 rwhp. MANY as in atleaste half or more.
But now most are hitting 450 rwhp with there 346's?????
You'll need 205 AFR's plus a huge cam and every bolt on available and even then you still may not hit 450 rwhp.
Dont get me wrong..There have been some "SHOP BUILT" 346 LS1's that have hit 470-500 rwhp SAE...BUT these are top of the line components and have every bolt on and trick available to make the number.
Your typical guy who cant spend 10K at once to have a shop build his car and as well cant afford the best this/that, and actually uses his car to get from A to B is lucky to hit over 400 rwhp...
Go to the dyno section and see what the 408 CI guys are doing before you say such a thing
At my local dyno were a good hundred LS1's have dynoed only 3 have hit over 400 rwhp SAE Naturally asperated on the stock cube 346..
Many people with H/C 402's and 408's only hit 440-470 rwhp. MANY as in atleaste half or more.
But now most are hitting 450 rwhp with there 346's?????
You'll need 205 AFR's plus a huge cam and every bolt on available and even then you still may not hit 450 rwhp.
Dont get me wrong..There have been some "SHOP BUILT" 346 LS1's that have hit 470-500 rwhp SAE...BUT these are top of the line components and have every bolt on and trick available to make the number.
Your typical guy who cant spend 10K at once to have a shop build his car and as well cant afford the best this/that, and actually uses his car to get from A to B is lucky to hit over 400 rwhp...
Go to the dyno section and see what the 408 CI guys are doing before you say such a thing