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Old 01-02-2004, 09:25 AM
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13.34 @ 105.47......bone stock mach down to paper filter.

not doubting outcome at all just giving heads up.
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Originally Posted by Venkman
I would guess that car in modded form would be good for about 13.5's.
You shouldn't guess too much - you're not very good at it...

13.5? How 'bout 11.83???

Stock Long-Block Mach 1 goes 11.83 at 115.5 mph
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Originally Posted by Angus66
You shouldn't guess too much - you're not very good at it...
You're shouldn't post. You're not very good at it. Care to test my car? It's a fair race since we both have Mustangs right?
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Originally Posted by Angus66
You shouldn't guess too much - you're not very good at it...

13.5? How 'bout 11.83???

Stock Long-Block Mach 1 goes 11.83 at 115.5 mph

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Old 01-02-2004, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by unit213
You're shouldn't post. You're not very good at it.
What's your beef?

He posted a completely uneducated guess at what modded Mach 1's were running,
and he was off by almost 2 full seconds...

I just corrected him is all...

Originally Posted by unit213
Care to test my car? It's a fair race since we both have Mustangs right?
No thanks Mr "Every Mustang is a POS except my '03 Cobra"...
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Same here. Never seen a Mach1 break 12's. Actually, I've never seen one get lower than a 13.2...and he had slicks, gears, shifter, and a few other goodies.


More than a few Mach 1's have run in the 12's completely stock,
and modded cars are running in the mid 12's to high 11's.

Some of you need to do more thorough research on your competition,
while others have obviously done so already...

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I know plenty about the "competition". I know enough to know that Mach 1's are not competition.
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Originally Posted by BULLITT
the guy with the mach 1 just couldnt drive. He should have won. Later
bwuhahahaha....
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Originally Posted by Unit213
I know plenty about the "competition". I know enough to know that Mach 1's are not competition.
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damn that is great. oh well. im tired of hearing all of you bitch like women. please go shut up and drink a beer!
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I'll take a Shiner, please.
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Originally Posted by Angus66
More than a few Mach 1's have run in the 12's completely stock,
and modded cars are running in the mid 12's to high 11's.
Show me a Mach 1 that has run 12's, Completely stock.

So far, the 2 resident Mach 1 owners (yourself and roger) have been able to muster a heart stopping 13.34 and a 'lightly modded Mustang GT' like 13.43 ...
In case you haven't noticed, these times are almost a full half second slower than what you are claiming can be accomplished by a Mach 1.

So the question I pose to you, sir Angus ... Do you just suck at driving, or did you get a factory reject?
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Originally Posted by unit213
I know plenty about the "competition". I know enough to know that Mach 1's are not competition.
Unit is certainly correct. In Detroit, a Mach is hardly competition. It's hardly even a car. Run 10's or run home to Mommy in this town. Fact is, 13.4s is an EXCEPTIONAL time for a bone stock 4.6 cammer. The Mach is nothing special.

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What's your beef?
A guy with the name Angus asking "What's your Beef?" Bwahahahahaha... oh... He's got a good sense of humor...
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Old 01-02-2004, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by unit213
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I know plenty about the "competition". I know enough to know that Mach 1's are not competition.
So if (modded) Mach 1's aren't any competition for you,
then what is?

9 second Superbikes?

Top fuel cars?

Rocket ships?

(Certainly an '01 Cobra convertible couldn't be competition for you, right???)

Don't tell me, you have the 1st 5-second '03 Cobra on the planet, right?

You need to let some air out of that big head of yours & get over yourself.
Because once the modding starts, ANY decent V8 RWD platform could concievably be competiton for you...
...even Mach 1's

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Show me a Mach 1 that has run 12's, Completely stock.
Originally Posted by SS00Blue
Fact is, 13.4s is an EXCEPTIONAL time for a bone stock 4.6 cammer.
So, 13.4's is exceptional huh?

Then what would you call the 13.19 that 5.0 Magazine ran in a stock Mach 1???
(August 2003, page 47)
ABSOLUTELYFUKINGINCREDIBLE???

Or how this Mach 1 ran 12.89 at 109 mph

Or this one running 12.88 at 106.6 mph???

Originally Posted by xphantomws6x
So far, the 2 resident Mach 1 owners (yourself and roger) have been able to muster a heart stopping 13.34 and a 'lightly modded Mustang GT' like 13.43 ...
In case you haven't noticed, these times are almost a full half second slower than what you are claiming can be accomplished by a Mach 1.
So you can judge the best performance a model of car makes by just 2 cars (and drivers) out of 10,000???

If I used your logic, I'm sure I could find a few 13.5+ ET 2002 LS1 F-bodies,
which would surely mean that ALL LS1 cars are 13.5 second cars...

Originally Posted by xphantomws6x
So the question I pose to you, sir Angus ... Do you just suck at driving, or did you get a factory reject?
Car is fine, driver needs work & a better track to run at...
(I had MASSIVE wheel-spin on the 1/2 shift due to 40 degree track temps)

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Old 01-02-2004, 08:41 PM
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good kill sean!
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Originally Posted by BULLITT
hey angus and all the other mach 1 guys, dont listen to these stupid *** bitches. They're just mad because a 4.6 can beat a 5.7 346ci LS1, stock for stock. Theyre also probably mad because the POS cars that they do have are no longer in production. Some of the stupidest commest have been made in this thread. Especially by the dumbass unit(who pretends he doesnt like mustangs just to be accepted in this site), venkman(who probably dynoed only once where the dyno was probably not working correctly at the time), and many other idiots. Many ignorant fools should get your asses down to a track and actually run instead of bench racing. Hey phantom what do you run? Probably never has run at a track. How about you unit? No guessing, give me proof. All these guys are filled with envy so they have to put down a car like the mach 1. The 03 cobra is a badass car, but there are faster cars out there. Ever seen the turbo mach 1? Yeah thats what i thought. Later.
pure comedy!
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bullitt - nice sig and avatar.
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A few = 5 in bullitt terminology.
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In any terms a few means more then one, and more then one means a nice view of tail lights for bullitt.

On a side note, I'm not really sure how I got into this discussion, but I would like to clarify that I really have no interest in arguing about how fast a stock Mustang Mach 1 is ... because in reality, I could care less.

Originally Posted by Angus66
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So you can judge the best performance a model of car makes by just 2 cars (and drivers) out of 10,000???

If I used your logic, I'm sure I could find a few 13.5+ ET 2002 LS1 F-bodies,
which would surely mean that ALL LS1 cars are 13.5 second cars...
BTW, that IS YOUR LOGIC. You are the one claiming that Mach 1's run high 12's, not me. I am the one telling you that because a handful of cars have done it, does not mean that every stock mach 1 is a high 12 second car, just as every stock f-bod is not. I was mearly using you and roger as examples of the norm.
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Originally Posted by unit213
A few = 5 in bullitt terminology.
In any terms, "a few means" more then one, and more then one means a nice view of tail lights for bullitt.

Originally Posted by Angus66
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So you can judge the best performance a model of car makes by just 2 cars (and drivers) out of 10,000???

If I used your logic, I'm sure I could find a few 13.5+ ET 2002 LS1 F-bodies,
which would surely mean that ALL LS1 cars are 13.5 second cars...
That IS YOUR LOGIC, not mine. You are the one claiming that Mach 1's run high 12's, not me. I am the one telling you that because a handful of cars have done it, does not mean that every stock mach 1 is a high 12 second car, just as every stock f-bod is not. I was mearly using you and roger as examples of the norm.
Showing me a post someone made about how they ran a 12.9x in their stock mach 1 does not consititute "SHOWING ME" a car that has done it. I can find you a post of bullitt telling us all how he ran a 9 second quarter mile, would you believe that too?

On a side note, I'm not really sure how I got into this discussion, but I would like to clarify that I really have no interest in arguing about how fast a stock Mustang Mach 1 is ... because I really don't care.
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Ever notice that everybody that has ever argued with Phantom has gotten totally owned?

Remind me never to argue with you
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