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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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So continue sucking my dick for fun you little ******.[/QUOTE]
If you want to come to florida Id be glad too.

In the mean time Im tired of arguing. muah xoxo
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Super28Sport
I'm not sure if this is true...
Well I'm sure, because I was there
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Good kill. I never understood the logic behind new cars always being faster than old ones. New cars are being made with more power, but there's an inherent power gap between a modern V8 and a "high tech squeeze as many HP as you can out of 1 liter" I4.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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good point
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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nice kill.

I bought my rsx-s to have something to drive everyday and still have decent power with a 6 speed and good gas mileage. It really does come with some good options and is a very comfortable ride, but by no means would I ever race it because it's not fast. It's decent for what it is though.

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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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HEY SENSI

If we were going to argue damn hp/liter lets bring my bike into play shall we...... .6liter. 110+whp = higher hp to liter than your sacred honda.

Maybe I should get my buddies r/c truck...... Its piston is like the same diameter as a pen and it makes 2hp = Your hp/liter argument is so damn old and retarded its not even funny.

Does more hp/liter make an engine better than another? HELL NO!!!
If that were true we would install one cylinder engines in our cars that can only run wide *** open.
Fast is fast/slow is slow give credit where credit is due
Your engine is NOT better than my engine.

STFU TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go back to the honda forums where they make irrational statements like that.

Please disregard onebadt/a as he as been reprimanded already.

I think he meant to say ricers not imports as there is a definite difference there

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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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An rsx with a sleeved block, tuned with k pro and stage 3 cams will do about 400 fwhp. no way an na rsx did 500 hp. With a stock block, na, you're not gonna get more then about 300 to the fly.

400hp is nothing to laugh at in a 2800lb car.

The smart ones put a k24 bottom end with a k20 top end.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lickeyman
HEY SENSI

If we were going to argue damn hp/liter lets bring my bike into play shall we...... .6liter. 110+whp = higher hp to liter than your sacred honda.

Maybe I should get my buddies r/c truck...... Its piston is like the same diameter as a pen and it makes 2hp = Your hp/liter argument is so damn old and retarded its not even funny.

Does more hp/liter make an engine better than another? HELL NO!!!
If that were true we would install one cylinder engines in our cars that can only run wide *** open.
Fast is fast/slow is slow give credit where credit is due
Your engine is NOT better than my engine.

STFU TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go back to the honda forums where they make irrational statements like that.

Please disregard onebadt/a as he as been reprimanded already.

I think he meant to say ricers not imports as there is a definite difference there
Like I said before sorry for the troll
Mabey there is some kind of misunderstanding, All I am saying is Im just impressed at honda's technology, (my honda mower has been running for over 20 years and has never needed a spark plug change, lol). Im NOT here to **** people off, just stating my POLITE opinion like every one else. Hell I dont even drive a honda, I have a slow *** lt1(daily driver), and my IMPORT miata has 302 (not as slow).
So once again all I was trying to say is Is just that I like the tech behind honda.
So do we have an understanding.

Thanks matt

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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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500 HP and 98 Ft/lbs of Torque LoL
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 05White****
500 HP and 98 Ft/lbs of Torque LoL
lol...that squirl on a wheel motor is getting pretty tired

i remember back in high school (2 yrs ago lol), my friend had an s-type rsx. he dropped in a turbo and thought he was badass (even had underglow)...i can also vividly remember putting cars on him from digs and rolls the weekend i got my t/a

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it just makes it so hard for me to respect jap cars when they not only cost more (his car cost him ~$20k and mine cost me $12.5k) and had a few more thousand invested in it (about 1600 for the turbo and supporting mods plus "lightweigth" wheels and z rated rubber etc) and i still romped him with an 8 year old stock a4
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sensi
Like I said before sorry for the troll
Mabey there is some kind of misunderstanding, All I am saying is Im just impressed at honda's technology, (my honda mower has been running for over 20 years and has never needed a spark plug change, lol). Im NOT here to **** people off, just stating my POLITE opinion like every one else. Hell I dont even drive a honda, I have a slow *** lt1(daily driver), and my IMPORT miata has 302 (not as slow).
So once again all I was trying to say is Is just that I like the tech behind honda.
So do we have an understanding.

Thanks matt
There does seem to be a misunderstanding. hp/l at best is a ricer argument. Peak hp shows very little, while displacement shows pretty much nothing. If you want to talk about technology look at engine weight or physical size vs hp (or rather torque curve).
There is a reason people are swapping LSx's into cars these days, and not Honda engines. Because in the real world things like weight, and size are what matters. And the LSx engines show a far superior power to weight ratio compared to Honda engines (hell even power/physical size).
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
There does seem to be a misunderstanding. hp/l at best is a ricer argument. Peak hp shows very little, while displacement shows pretty much nothing. If you want to talk about technology look at engine weight or physical size vs hp (or rather torque curve).
There is a reason people are swapping LSx's into cars these days, and not Honda engines. Because in the real world things like weight, and size are what matters. And the LSx engines show a far superior power to weight ratio compared to Honda engines (hell even power/physical size).
Hondas dont swap lsx's into their cars. Old school muscle car guys do because they know the lsx is a badass motor.

Displacemnt shows nothing, but then you say size and weight is what matters. Little contradictory there.

Displacemnt matters, but when it comes down to it...all that really matters is power to weight.

Most 4 cyls are not fast. But dont let the small displacemnt fool you. While some of these cars are small displacemnt, they can make big numbers and they go in cars SIGNIFICANTLY lighter then ours.

The k24 and 4g63 are not to be taken lightly. Go race a k24 swapped civic thats been hopped up, or a 4g63 eclipse / talon pushing a shitload of boost. They're damn faster then you think, and I have movies to back it up.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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yeah, its very easy to run 12's and 11's on the 4g63 block. pretty cheap too in most cases.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SS101
lol...that squirl on a wheel motor is getting pretty tired

i remember back in high school (2 yrs ago lol), my friend had an s-type rsx. he dropped in a turbo and thought he was badass (even had underglow)...i can also vividly remember putting cars on him from digs and rolls the weekend i got my t/a

...

it just makes it so hard for me to respect jap cars when they not only cost more (his car cost him ~$20k and mine cost me $12.5k) and had a few more thousand invested in it (about 1600 for the turbo and supporting mods plus "lightweigth" wheels and z rated rubber etc) and i still romped him with an 8 year old stock a4
Well your car was 8 years old... that could be part of the price discrepancy. I'd be willing to bet your car's MSRP was around what his was.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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damn slayer your thread went to ****
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Well your car was 8 years old... that could be part of the price discrepancy. I'd be willing to bet your car's MSRP was around what his was.
actually it probably msrp'ed for more...but that was in 1999...this was 2006. the 8 years of age (and consequent 60k miles btw) WAS the reason it cost so much less. so if i can pay that much less and go that much faster...i think it's a good deal. imports keep tyring to compare to the domestic crowd, but you'd be hard pressed to find any import that can match an lsx dollar for dollar and still compete with it on the street or strip. people will inevitably bring up the ultra quick awd talons and turbo civics, but there are very few of them out there (especially talons) by comparison to lsx cars.

i just cant honestly say i have respect for a "performance" car that costs more and goes slower than mine.

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i just know that some rice nut swinger is dying to bring up "well, jap cars last longer!!" joke's on you *******, this guys car was totalled almost a year ago! no one was hurt thank god, but it looks like my 8 year old mullet-mobile out ran AND out lived the jap competition...while costing less.

*note: i don't mean to flame, i'm just very excitable. this is merely food for thought.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jermzz
Hondas dont swap lsx's into their cars. Old school muscle car guys do because they know the lsx is a badass motor.
Wrong...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-swaps/730443-newbie-ls1-but-not-your-typical-car.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...00#post7697327
Not to mention the various RX7s, 944s, 240SXs, Miatas etc. that get them.
Displacemnt shows nothing, but then you say size and weight is what matters. Little contradictory there.
Displacement does not show size or weight of the engine. The LS1 is lighter and smaller than almost all V8s on the market, and most V6s.
Hell, its only about 60lbs heavier than the F20C...
Displacemnt matters, but when it comes down to it...all that really matters is power to weight.
On the street, when you're not racing in displacement limited classes, it does not.
Most 4 cyls are not fast. But dont let the small displacemnt fool you. While some of these cars are small displacemnt, they can make big numbers and they go in cars SIGNIFICANTLY lighter then ours.
And many (like I mentioned above) are getting LSx's put into them and LOOSING weight because of it.
The k24 and 4g63 are not to be taken lightly. Go race a k24 swapped civic thats been hopped up, or a 4g63 eclipse / talon pushing a shitload of boost. They're damn faster then you think, and I have movies to back it up.
Im not anywhere saying Hondas, or 4 cylinder cars cannot be fast.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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Haha who knew killing an RSX could start all this trouble?

I took a bite out of a Mini Cooper S tonight. By the sound of it, it was definitely the supercharged version. Not the newer turbo version.

How come I can't get any closer races? Best one I've had was when I beat my friend's 97 Cobra with 4.10's and a bunch of other small goodies.

I need to find some better places to race with real cars.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
Wrong...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=730443
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...00#post7697327
Not to mention the various RX7s, 944s, 240SXs, Miatas etc. that get them.

Displacement does not show size or weight of the engine. The LS1 is lighter and smaller than almost all V8s on the market, and most V6s.
Hell, its only about 60lbs heavier than the F20C...

On the street, when you're not racing in displacement limited classes, it does not.

And many (like I mentioned above) are getting LSx's put into them and LOOSING weight because of it.

Im not anywhere saying Hondas, or 4 cylinder cars cannot be fast.

I dont feel like going through and quoting quotes. lol.

I can see our difference in opinion seems to be based on street and track racing, which is fine.

1. Congradulations on finding 2 psycho bastards with enough time and money to make those conversions. I was speaking as a whole. the number of conversions to hot rodders with ls1's doesnt even compare. Every other car I saw at HAN had an ls1.

2. You were speaking of physical size, that was my misunderstanding!

3. Again, were talking about different playing fields. I was talking on the street where 99% of my action and time will be. I can run all the cubes I want

4. Some are, but not the ones i'm talking about.

5. I didnt say you were. It just seemed to me like you were ******* all the smaller motors. Sure ls1's are supperior in the right situtions. Not all cars can be converted to an ls1. 4 banger AWD cars are pretty hard to beat when set up properly
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 01:21 AM
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hahaha...good kill...
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