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Old 04-26-2008, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
That doesn't sounds right, the VQ doesn't have **** for top end power.
Your wrong.....the vq35hr have some good top end power. You'd be surprised how much nissan has done with the vq series engines.
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
A stock 350Z hitting 13's is like a stock A4 LS1 hitting 12's. Doesn't happen.
Wow, where are you getting this misinformation from??? The HR's hit low 13's all day long. The DE's normally are consistant high 13's. I love my ride too but give credit where credit is due. That's impressive stuff coming from a 6 cylinder engine.
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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
Wow, where are you getting this misinformation from??? The HR's hit low 13's all day long. The DE's normally are consistant high 13's. I love my ride too but give credit where credit is due. That's impressive stuff coming from a 6 cylinder engine.
All day long? Come on, there are only a few under 13.5:

http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233840
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
All day long? Come on, there are only a few under 13.5:

http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233840
If you can drive a HR Z you will be low 13's period. The one's who could, is. Proof is right in your face.
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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
If you can drive a HR Z you will be low 13's period. The one's who could, is. Proof is right in your face.
So basically the only people who are going to ever pull a claimed "low 13" are magazine test drivers on prepped tracks with ideal conditions.

I've never seen a 350Z at the track break out of the high 13's. A V6 with a shitty powerband and Independent rear isn't going to be consistant or easy to run fast down the track, simple physics.

I give credit where I think credit is due. And the Nissan 350Z deverves no credit in my book, its a shitty sounding 6 cylinder with no low end or top end power. What is so special about getting 300HP out of a 6 cylinder?? How is getting 300HP out of a 6 cylinder any better than 300HP out of an 8 cylinder, like 05+ Mustang GT's?? I suppose its somehow beneficial to use a smaller engine so it sounds like dog ****, has a crappy torque curve, and doesn't have the longevity of a larger motor due to more stress on everything. Now that makes sense

Why do so many people on here feel the need to tell other members they "must respect" something or "give credit" to something just because they think it deserves it?? Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and I think Nissan V6's are junk.
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
So basically the only people who are going to ever pull a claimed "low 13" are magazine test drivers on prepped tracks with ideal conditions.

I've never seen a 350Z at the track break out of the high 13's. A V6 with a shitty powerband and Independent rear isn't going to be consistant or easy to run fast down the track, simple physics.

I give credit where I think credit is due. And the Nissan 350Z deverves no credit in my book, its a shitty sounding 6 cylinder with no low end or top end power. What is so special about getting 300HP out of a 6 cylinder?? How is getting 300HP out of a 6 cylinder any better than 300HP out of an 8 cylinder, like 05+ Mustang GT's?? I suppose its somehow beneficial to use a smaller engine so it sounds like dog ****, has a crappy torque curve, and doesn't have the longevity of a larger motor due to more stress on everything. Now that makes sense

Why do so many people on here feel the need to tell other members they "must respect" something or "give credit" to something just because they think it deserves it?? Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and I think Nissan V6's are junk.
Who said anything about magazine test drivers's with prepped conditions??? Your an ignorant person btw I have seen quite a few HR Z's in the mid to low 13's

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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
Who said magazine test drivers's??? Your an ignorant person btw
I did. Because nobody else pulls low 13's in a 350Z.

Wow, I'm ignorant. Thats right, if you don't like Jap crap you're automatically ignorant, because everyone should like cars that are ugly and sound like a weedwacker
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
I did. Because nobody else pulls low 13's in a 350Z.

Wow, I'm ignorant. Thats right, if you don't like Jap crap you're automatically ignorant, because everyone should like cars that are ugly and sound like a weedwacker
People like you will never learn anything.....it's never been about japs vs american to begin with. I bet your a racist too.
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I've been reading posts like his on this forum a lot tonight. Seems like there are a lot of under educated people on this forum. Or they're just to stubborn to accept that just b/c a Z is a 6 cyl that a LS/LT will always win.
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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
People like you will never learn anything.....it's never been about japs vs american to begin with. I bet your a racist too.
There's no point in bringing that **** up. Nobody's said or implied anything racist.
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Originally Posted by rocksws6
There's no point in bringing that **** up. Nobody's said or implied anything racist.
Exactly. You can't be racist against inanimate objects.

Originally Posted by Miamifan3413
eople like you will never learn anything.....it's never been about japs vs american to begin with. I bet your a racist too.
Typical ricer excuse, "you don't like asian cars because your racist". Get a life, if thats the best you can do then you're better of just not responding.

Sorry not everyone has the same taste as you. There are those of us that don't appreciate ugly cars that sound like crap. If you like them then good for you, stop trying to force your opinion on others.
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Originally Posted by Blwn_by_Twins
I've been reading posts like his on this forum a lot tonight. Seems like there are a lot of under educated people on this forum. Or they're just to stubborn to accept that just b/c a Z is a 6 cyl that a LS/LT will always win.
And the 350Z trolls roll in....
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
Exactly. You can't be racist against inanimate objects.



Typical ricer excuse, "you don't like asian cars because your racist". Get a life, if thats the best you can do then you're better of just not responding.

Sorry not everyone has the same taste as you. There are those of us that don't appreciate ugly cars that sound like crap. If you like them then good for you, stop trying to force your opinion on others.
Like i said before.....you'll never learn anything and i'm sure this isn't the first time you've heard that. Your a know it all kinda guy. I never forced my opinions ( which were facts actually) on you. Your just to stubborn to realize something when it's in your face. Beside's, who ever said that i liked jap cars?? I didn't. As you were saying earlier in the thread that Z's never break into the 13's, well there's proof in the link above that prove's your wrong. http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233840

Just remember the topic was about 350 Z's getting in the 13's.

100% stock down to the tire

ALL TIMES HAVE BEEN VERIFIED


1. Pat Bateman ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.150@107.62mph 2.027 60ft
2. Veetec --------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.198@105.71mph 1.971 60ft
3. Peak350 -------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.239@105.67mph 1.923 60ft
4. Warmmilk ------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.412@104.04mph 2.006 60ft
5. 2007-Z --------------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.540@102.20mph 2.068 60ft
6. PFI350Z -------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.568@104.69mph 2.159 60ft
7. Veetec --------------------------04 Base 6spd 13.640@102.42mph 1.983 60ft
8. jdifolco ------------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.644@104.68mph 2.201 60ft
9. DomZ ----------------------------03 Tour Auto 13.667@101.57mph 1.996 60ft
10. pistols07Z ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.675@102.31mph 2.150 60ft
11. BriGuyMax ----------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.688@102.77mph 2.091 60ft
12. Specv_USMC ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.711@102.88mph 2.163 60ft
13. 350zshopper --------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.733@103.22mph 2.198 60ft
14. 1.8T ---------------------------03 Base 6spd 13.736@102.99mph 2.135 60ft
15. VitViper -----------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.763@100.96mph 2.150 60ft
16. Alberto ------------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.779@101.40mph 2.052 60ft
17. Screamin350Z04 -----------------04 Tour 6spd 13.794@102.72mph 2.089 60ft
18. gsingh350Z ---------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.799@102.39mph 2.247 60ft
19. AJcool2 ------------------------04 Tour Auto 13.852@100.25mph 2.127 60ft
20. Gripfordough -------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.861@ 99.36mph 2.105 60ft
21. Accordaleer --------------------07 Tour Auto 13.872@101.xxmph x.xxx 60ft
22. Davidv -------------------------04 Enth 6spd 13.897@101.07mph 2.026 60ft
23. fishbait -----------------------07 _GT_ 6spd 13.905@101.56mph 2.274 60ft
24. dave079-------------------------03 Base 6spd 13.945@101.29mph 2.130 60ft
25. 350JAR -------------------------04 Base 6spd 13.947@102.65mph 2.259 60ft
26. Integrity ----------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.951@101.10mph 2.140 60ft
I even posted it for you If you know anything about drag racing you'll see how awful alot of the 60ft's are, so there is alot more in them. You do the math if you know how

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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
Like i said before.....you'll never learn anything and i'm sure this isn't the first time you've heard that. Your a know it all kinda guy. I never forced my opinions ( which were facts actually) on you. Your just to stubborn to realize something when it's in your face. Beside's, who ever said that i liked jap cars?? I didn't. As you were saying earlier in the thread that Z's never break into the 13's, well there's proof in the link above that prove's your wrong. http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233840

Just remember the topic was about 350 Z's getting in the 13's.

100% stock down to the tire

ALL TIMES HAVE BEEN VERIFIED


1. Pat Bateman ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.150@107.62mph 2.027 60ft
2. Veetec --------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.198@105.71mph 1.971 60ft
3. Peak350 -------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.239@105.67mph 1.923 60ft
4. Warmmilk ------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.412@104.04mph 2.006 60ft
5. 2007-Z --------------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.540@102.20mph 2.068 60ft
6. PFI350Z -------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.568@104.69mph 2.159 60ft
7. Veetec --------------------------04 Base 6spd 13.640@102.42mph 1.983 60ft
8. jdifolco ------------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.644@104.68mph 2.201 60ft
9. DomZ ----------------------------03 Tour Auto 13.667@101.57mph 1.996 60ft
10. pistols07Z ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.675@102.31mph 2.150 60ft
11. BriGuyMax ----------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.688@102.77mph 2.091 60ft
12. Specv_USMC ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.711@102.88mph 2.163 60ft
13. 350zshopper --------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.733@103.22mph 2.198 60ft
14. 1.8T ---------------------------03 Base 6spd 13.736@102.99mph 2.135 60ft
15. VitViper -----------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.763@100.96mph 2.150 60ft
16. Alberto ------------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.779@101.40mph 2.052 60ft
17. Screamin350Z04 -----------------04 Tour 6spd 13.794@102.72mph 2.089 60ft
18. gsingh350Z ---------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.799@102.39mph 2.247 60ft
19. AJcool2 ------------------------04 Tour Auto 13.852@100.25mph 2.127 60ft
20. Gripfordough -------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.861@ 99.36mph 2.105 60ft
21. Accordaleer --------------------07 Tour Auto 13.872@101.xxmph x.xxx 60ft
22. Davidv -------------------------04 Enth 6spd 13.897@101.07mph 2.026 60ft
23. fishbait -----------------------07 _GT_ 6spd 13.905@101.56mph 2.274 60ft
24. dave079-------------------------03 Base 6spd 13.945@101.29mph 2.130 60ft
25. 350JAR -------------------------04 Base 6spd 13.947@102.65mph 2.259 60ft
26. Integrity ----------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.951@101.10mph 2.140 60ft
I even posted it for you If you know anything about drag racing you'll see how awful alot of the 60ft's are, so there is alot more in them. You do the math if you know how
Take your bullshit numbers somewhere else. Until I see that car in person, and I can see with my own two eyes that its BONE STOCK (which those weren't), and then see it go down the strip and turn that time, you can take those numbers and shove them.

All times have been verified...haha yea by who, the drivers??
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
Take your bullshit numbers somewhere else. Until I see that car in person, and I can see with my own two eyes that its BONE STOCK (which those weren't), and then see it go down the strip and turn that time, you can take those numbers and shove them.

All times have been verified...haha yea by who, the drivers??
Yes, they were verified by their moderators with time slips....just like the moderators do here on the tech. What's so hard to believe about that?? I guess no one here at the tech runs 10's unless you see it with your own eye's....lol
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Im not saying the slips arent verfifeid, but how did the moderators, verify the cars were stock?
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Originally Posted by miamifan3413
If you can drive a HR Z you will be low 13's period. The one's who could, is. Proof is right in your face.
Only 4 cars listed under 13.499 and with suspicously high mph.

The only way it happens is a sticky track, a cold day on the East coast and a nice 30mph tailwind. I guess anything can happen huh?
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
Only 4 cars listed under 13.499 and with suspicously high mph.

The only way it happens is a sticky track, a cold day on the East coast and a nice 30mph tailwind. I guess anything can happen huh?
True but badws6 said "Z's never break 13's, doesn't happen" I see quite a few there....lol The Z's from 02-06 all trap around 100-103mph. The 07+ trap 103-106 bone stock believe it or not. I live in Florida which has good track conditions except for the heat, and have seen the HR's doing well in the 13's is all i'm saying and for someone to say that they are absolutely not is an ignoramis. The trap on the first Z posted at 107.62 is suspicious I agree.

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Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru
Im not saying the slips arent verfifeid, but how did the moderators, verify the cars were stock?
I guess we'll never really know however I have seen with my own 2 eye's it happening here in FL. I guess that's why maybe it's easier for me to believe it than someone like Badassws6. I respect his opinion on it and if I came off disrespectful I sincerely apoligize, I just have a complex about ignorance is all.
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I have seen Zs hit 13s aswell, im not saying they cant do that, but 13.1s is a little weird. I looked at dragtimes.com, where people put there times and mods, only 1 stock z was under 13.5 it was a 07, all the rest needed a small nos shot or bolt ons. The supercharged and single turbo setups with stock blocks and soem bolt ons were in the mid to high 12s with 1.9-2.2 60ft times


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