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04-30-2008, 03:37 PM
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To answer your question around 5k, And that is on the high side. You cant tell me you can get a f-body to run like that with just 5k, No sir.
I got a friend now in school built a 480 hp civic out of some new and used parts and he drives the livin **** out of it Now you can spray a stock ls1 or ls2 but you cant do it big. Your lookin for a good no2 set up around 1,200, then clutch around 500-1000, Fuel system 600-800, headers,full exhaust 300-1,300 and a intake for ***** and giggles 200-900 dollars. Oh and tuning 400-800. This is just for a stock motor, add a cam, heads and a short block and u are up there!
Im not trying to start ****, I use to say the same thing(You dump a *** load of money to run 13.00) But now imports around the v8 parts price range
I got a friend now in school built a 480 hp civic out of some new and used parts and he drives the livin **** out of it Now you can spray a stock ls1 or ls2 but you cant do it big. Your lookin for a good no2 set up around 1,200, then clutch around 500-1000, Fuel system 600-800, headers,full exhaust 300-1,300 and a intake for ***** and giggles 200-900 dollars. Oh and tuning 400-800. This is just for a stock motor, add a cam, heads and a short block and u are up there!Im not trying to start ****, I use to say the same thing(You dump a *** load of money to run 13.00) But now imports around the v8 parts price range
You could make an F-body a hell of a lot faster than that with $12,000 dollars. APS twin turbo kit and the rest is history. And of course if you got forged internals and the proper drivetrain upgrades, it would have near bulletproof reliability.
Not like some 2.3L 4 cylinder pushing 32 pounds of boost thats going to be nothing more than a pile of scrap metal in a few thousand miles, if that. Thats some tremendous stress to put that large of a turbo and that much boost on such a small engine, you're an ignorant fool if you can't understand that, its practically common sense.
If I'm going to invest that kind of money into a vehicle to make it fast, I'm going to start with a solid platform to begin with and build it from there. Meaning not an AWD car, not a 4 cylinder, and not an import. Anyone who buys a 4 cylinder with the intent of going fast needs to re-examine their motives.
04-30-2008, 03:41 PM
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Lol i have seen the evo engien built to 1000hp, its not streetable that high but its been there, 550 isnt pushing it.
and i have seen the 2.5 boxer engine built to over 800whp. Sure at that much power the lag is horrbile but im just saying 550whp isnt the max for that car.
and i have seen the 2.5 boxer engine built to over 800whp. Sure at that much power the lag is horrbile but im just saying 550whp isnt the max for that car.
04-30-2008, 03:50 PM
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Lol i have seen the evo engien built to 1000hp, its not streetable that high but its been there, 550 isnt pushing it.
and i have seen the 2.5 boxer engine built to over 800whp. Sure at that much power the lag is horrbile but im just saying 550whp isnt the max for that car.
and i have seen the 2.5 boxer engine built to over 800whp. Sure at that much power the lag is horrbile but im just saying 550whp isnt the max for that car.
Here's the question at hand - why would you be ignorant enough to try and build a small engine to unstreetable, unreliable, and undriveable horsepower levels which you could just start with a larger, more suitable engine in the first place?? Why is that concept so difficult for ricers to understand??
The kid I know with the claimed 380WHP Evo has no low end at all. The car practically stalls when you start from a stop, takes a lot of feathering of the throttle to get it going. In fact, pulling it into the shop today it almost stalled twice, and thats when it was already at a slow roll.
04-30-2008, 04:01 PM
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The car is a complete dog down low stock, bolting on a bigger turbo, cams, and more boost only makes it 10 times worse.
Here's the question at hand - why would you be ignorant enough to try and build a small engine to unstreetable, unreliable, and undriveable horsepower levels which you could just start with a larger, more suitable engine in the first place?? Why is that concept so difficult for ricers to understand??
Here's the question at hand - why would you be ignorant enough to try and build a small engine to unstreetable, unreliable, and undriveable horsepower levels which you could just start with a larger, more suitable engine in the first place?? Why is that concept so difficult for ricers to understand??
Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
The kid I know with the claimed 380WHP Evo has no low end at all. The car practically stalls when you start from a stop, takes a lot of feathering of the throttle to get it going. In fact, pulling it into the shop today it almost stalled twice, and thats when it was already at a slow roll.
That's called knowing how to drive. Turbos take time to spool, brake boosting solves the issue of taking off without stalling. Whats the big deal, someone makes an evo quick, it's all for fun.
Rob has been driving his car around for a few years and he abuses the **** out of his car. It truly is his daily driver. Doesn't matter whether its import or domestic, at over 650 horsepower at the wheels, **** will break, thats just part of the game.
04-30-2008, 04:14 PM
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Lol then he has a horrible setup because it doesnt even take a big turbo to get to 380whp, my legacy could be there with a turbo that is fully spooled at 3800rpms. You act like the car has nothing before it is fully spooled it still making power while its spooling. No i wouldnt build my legacy to be a fast car i woudl start with something bigger, but its not like you just hate on 4cylinders. I had 14grand into my supra, thats suspension, new rear end, new trans, engine, turbo kit, rims, tires, brakes, guages, ECU, electronics. I paid 2500 for it with 155kmiles and a blown head gasket. It was a targa top, so i had roughly 11 grand in parts, it ran a 11.19 before i changed the rear end from IRS with 3.73s to live axle with 4.10s. So it would have easily gone 10.8s due to that and the fact that when i ran an 11.19 it was my only run down the track because i had no cage. The car also like i said drove better than it did after i replaced the head gasket and drove it basically stock after i modded it. The idle was more healthier, mid range ran better, freeway whatever. The point is i love american i have sold the supra and am selling my legacy and getting another f-body. The only thing i was trying to prove is that you are wrong when you say imports cant make power and be driveable and streetable, i took that car on my 45min morning commute countless times, drove it on 90 degree days in rush hour, no problems. If you want to talk **** thats fine but atleast have a somewhat built car so you actually know what you are talking about.
04-30-2008, 04:32 PM
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Only a fool argues with an idiot. ONEBADASSWS6 please stop already. Your posts give me a headache. You come across like an ignorant ***. I love bashing import douches. You on the other hand just bash.
Yes you can make a fast 4 banger and it be reliable relativly, just like our cars. It is just a matter of what people like. I personally enjoy other car drivers coming on here. Some guys deserve everything that we can give them. Not all other brand drivers deserve being called the things you have been calling them. Stop already. We got it.
Yes you can make a fast 4 banger and it be reliable relativly, just like our cars. It is just a matter of what people like. I personally enjoy other car drivers coming on here. Some guys deserve everything that we can give them. Not all other brand drivers deserve being called the things you have been calling them. Stop already. We got it.
04-30-2008, 04:55 PM
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Damn!
I have a few people that keep asking me to come to OKC to hang out, I'll be sure to stay clear of the yellow EVO!!!
Nice car man. I'll admit that I'm not a huge fan of the looks, but fast is fast!
I have a few people that keep asking me to come to OKC to hang out, I'll be sure to stay clear of the yellow EVO!!!
Nice car man. I'll admit that I'm not a huge fan of the looks, but fast is fast!
